Posted on 01/24/2010 8:06:39 PM PST by truthandlife
Highly informed sources on Capitol Hill have revealed to me details of the Democratic plan to sneak through Congress Obamacare, despite collapsing public approval for healthcare "reform" and disintegrating Congressional support in the wake of Republican Scott Brown's victory in Massachusetts.
President Obama, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid have all agreed to the basic framework of the plan.
Their plan is clever but can be stopped if opponents of radical healthcare reform act quickly and focus on a core group of 23 Democratic Congressman. If just a few of these 23 Democrats are "flipped" and decide to oppose the bill, the whole Obama-Pelosi-Reid stratagem falls apart.
Here's what I learned top Democrats are planning to implement.
Senate Democrats will go to the House with a two-part deal.
First, the House will pass the Senate's Obamacare bill that passed the Senate in December. The House leadership will vote on the Senate bill, and Pelosi will allow no amendments or modifications to the Senate bill.
How will Pelosi's deal fly with rambunctious liberal members of her majority that don't like the Senate bill, especially its failure to include a public option, put heavy fines on those who don't get insurance and offering no income tax surcharge on the "rich"?
That's where the second part of the Pelosi-deal comes in.
Behind closed doors Reid and Pelosi have agreed in principle that changes to the Senate bill will be made to satisfy liberal House members -- but only after the Senate bill is passed and signed into law by Obama.
This deal will be secured by a pledge from Reid and the Senate's Democratic caucus that they will make "fixes" to the Senate bill after it becomes law with Obama's John Hancock.
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FROM THE ARTICLE:
So what is the counter-move? How do opponents of Obamacare stop this?
Opponents cannot rely on liberal Democrats in the House who might balk at passing the Senate bill with just a “pledge” from 52 Senators. I have no doubt House liberals, despite their skepticism, will fade under pressure from Pelosi and Obama. They will do their duty and pass the Senate bill, whatever their current posturing.
Instead, the key to stopping the Pelosi-Reid plan lies with conservative or “moderate” Democrats who voted for the health care bill the first time.
There are 23 of these conservative-leaning Democratic House members who voted for Pelosi’s Obamacare back in November, which passed by just five votes, with 39 Democrats defecting to vote against the bill.
All 23 of these Congressman who did vote for the Pelosi bill are extremely vulnerable.
Opponents of Obamacare need to climb all over these 23 Congressmen with TV ads and advocacy campaigns in their districts to get them to change their vote this time, to vote “no” to the Senate bill when it comes before the House.
Fortunately, this is Dick Morris’ opinion, who is often wrong.
It’s NO JOKE, folks.
The Rats could shove Obamacare down our throats, come what may.
Losing elections in November is a small price to them, for the goal of government control of all health care in the country.
LOL
That is a plan?? Obama and the Senate has screwed house dems many times last year. Why would they buy this crap?
Morris has been right about this Health Care stuff, most of the time.
I appreciate his work.
Stupak is not even a "blue dog", and he promises 10 others. But lets say its just him and Cao (the La. Republican). Then all they need is one more..
Nobody who voted against it before will come on board, so it seems unlikely she could pull this off..Plus, Morris is wrong about 85 % of the time.
I have an idea to fight this in the courts if necessary. Since Massachusetts changed the law ex-post facto to allow a temporary pick (Kirk) and Kirk voted to end the filibuster while the elected member (Brown) would have voted against it, all such critical votes (60/40) by Kirk such should be declared null and void because an unconstitutional method (ex-post facto) was used to obtain Kirks vote to get them.
I’m as pessimistic and as suspicious of the other side as they come, but this doesn’t make sense. Pelosi had to beg, borrow and steal to get 220 votes for the House’s own bill, back in the happy days of early November. She’s now going to get 218 votes for the SENATE bill, with all its backroom deals that do House members no good, now, when they know they are all at risk and that O can’t ride to their rescue?
Except that we don't know how many Rats from moderate or conservative districts Pelosi and the Rat machine allowed to vote "no" last time because they were able to pass it without actually needing those votes.
Obama and Soros can find ways to pay people off who may lose their seats over this vote.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over?
Since when do the laws of our country allow anyone to make changes to a bill after it's been signed into law?
Morris is wrong, again. He often is.
Thanks Newt. It passed the house by 3 votes. Later Cao switched and Wexler quit. This leaves one vote to the bill - tahnk you Newt and Dede in NY-23 for passing Hussein-Care.
The question Dems need to be asking themselves is, “Is my district bluer than Massachusetts?”
There is a truth that will never be discussed among the Dems. They know it, and we know it. Coakley never had a chance.
Markey of Colorodo is one, for example. But if she votes yes after having voted no, just to end up with the same thing she voted on no, before, then she is for certain gone in November, after only one term.
I don't think theres a payoff that's gonna help soothe the humiliation of that kind of backtrack, but I suppose Pelosi/Soros can try it out. In addition, what if the Senate refuses to go along? Taxing higher earners for example is going to have a hard time getting 51 votes in the Senate. Maybe they'll just leave the idiot house members out on a limb? That will leave a mark, for sure.
The House components of the Healthcare bill will be attached to an upcoming budget, so it can be passed through reconciliation.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over?
Since when do the laws of our country allow anyone to make changes to a bill after it’s been signed into law?
They will just passed new bills that modify the original one.
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