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Mark Levin: I have no idea what philosophy Glenn Beck is promoting. And neither does he
Mark Levin Fan ^ | February 21, 2010 | Mark R. Levin

Posted on 02/21/2010 1:14:06 PM PST by Sergeant Tim

I was invited to be the opening speaker at Saturday's CPAC session. I had accepted but then, to my amazement, I learned that the John Birch Society would be one of many co-sponsors. This takes the big-tent idea many steps too far for me. So, I withdrew. Apparently, others were not so moved. That's fine. But it wasn't for me. Bill Buckley and Barry Goldwater, among others, chased the Birchers from the movement decades ago. And they're not a part of the movement. So, to give them a booth at CPAC was boneheaded.

I want to commend Bill Bennett for his wise piece this morning on the Corner. I agree with him.

I have no idea what philosophy Glenn Beck is promoting. And neither does he. It's incoherent. One day it's populist, the next it's libertarian bordering on anarchy, next it's conservative but not really, etc. And to what end? I believe he has announced that he is no longer going to endorse candidates because our problems are bigger than politics. Well, of course, our problems are not easily dissected into categories, but to reject politics is to reject the manner in which we try to organize ourselves. This is as old as Plato and Aristotle. Why would conservatives choose to surrender the political battlefield to our adversaries -- who are trashing this society -- when we must retake it in order to preserve our society? Philosophy, politics, culture, family, etc., are all of one. Edmund Burke, among others, wrote about it extensively, and far better that I possibly can. But all elements of the civil society require our defense. Besides, why preach such a strategy when conservatism is on the rise and the GOP is acting more responsibly?

Moreover, when he does discuss politics, which, ironically, is often, how can he claim today that there is no difference between the two parties when, but for the Republicans in Congress, government-run health care, cap-and-trade, card check, and a long list of other disastrous policies would already be law? The GOP is becoming more conservative thanks to the grass-roots movement and a political uprising across the country, which has even reached into New Jersey and Massachusetts. Why keep pretending otherwise? My only conclusion is that he is promoting a third party or some third way, which is counter-productive to defeating Obama and the Democrat Congress. These are perilous times and this kind of an approach will keep the statists in power for decades.

And what of his flirtations with Ron Paul's lunacy respecting America's supposed provocations with her enemies, including al-Qaeda? Why should such a fatal defect in thinking be ignored? Do we conservatives agree with this?

Finally, Beck is fond of congratulating himself for being the only or the first host to criticize George Bush's spending. This is demonstrably false. I not only attacked his spending, but the creation of the Homeland Security Department, the prescription drug add-on for Medicare, his "moderate" tax cuts, as well as his nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court, "comprehensive immigration reform," and so forth. And I was not alone -- Rush and Sean did the same, for example. And as someone who fought liberal Republicans in the trenches when campaigning for Reagan in 1976 and 1980, I don't need lectures from Beck, who was nowhere to be found, about big-spending Republicans. But this is not about me, or Beck, or Beck's past drunkenness (which he endlessly wears as some kind of badge of honor). It is about preserving our society for our children and grandchildren. Beck spent precious little time aiming fire at Obama-Pelosi-Reid in his speech, and it is they who are destroying our country.

On as a positive note, I am personally happy to see that Beck has cleaned up his public act -- as best I can tell, no more boiling fake frogs on TV or pretending to pour gasoline on someone -- and the rest of it. But I do think his speech, which contained nuggets of truth heard before and read elsewhere, including on Rush's show and in my book and many other books, may have distracted from some of the more compelling and coherent speeches at the event, including Marco Rubio's superb speech. I fear the media will see to this. I hope not.


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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Nine years says I’m not a troll. I just really don’t get this Beck worship, but then again, I prefer the more cerebral hosts to Beck the clown.


721 posted on 02/21/2010 7:20:18 PM PST by reaganaut (- "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: rockabyebaby

Thank you for the ping! Clearly Glenn Beck’s style is much
different from Levin’s, but they both have a passion for getting conservatism back in the forefront and keeping the Republican Party from becoming a haven for “moderates” (ie RINOs) and people who “just want to get along” to the point of giving up our identity!


722 posted on 02/21/2010 7:21:15 PM PST by luvie (DIMs?......start packin'--you're fired!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Beck doesn’t know what to say until Levin says it, then he steals it and acts like he thought of it, no wonder you don’t understand, you don’t listen to Levin.


723 posted on 02/21/2010 7:21:40 PM PST by jenk (REMEMBER MASSACHUSETTS!!)
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To: Thumper1960

That’s being charitable. In my opinion, Beck has one eye on the windsock and the other on the media pukes.


724 posted on 02/21/2010 7:21:44 PM PST by ProudGulfWarVet65 (The question is, it seems to me, is who the most immediate threat is. Sad, huh?)
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To: SoCalPol
Levin did not go to CPAC mainly due to the John Birch sponsorship.

It also didn’t help that David Keene head of CPAC is a Palin basher and a MittBot

It doesn't matter why he didn't go, there were a lot of good conservative speakers there who did. All I'm saying that with all the young people that were there it would be incumbent upon Levin to go and make his case before them in person rather than sit it out and now attack Beck the day after.

I didn't hear everyone speak but I heard no bashing of Palin. So now why didn't Palin show up?

725 posted on 02/21/2010 7:25:36 PM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: reaganaut

I don’t care how many years you’ve been here. You’re behaving like a troll on this issue for sure.

I wouldn’t understand anyone who worshiped Beck either. It is just as warped an idea as the visceral hatred among the 5-10 trolls that are posting repeatedly on this topic.

I don’t get it when Mark Levin does it on his radio show either. It is juvenile and embarrassing to listen to.


726 posted on 02/21/2010 7:26:22 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: TNdandelion

He’s a little high on himself at times.

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That is understandable, after all he IS auditioning for godhood now.


727 posted on 02/21/2010 7:26:39 PM PST by reaganaut (- "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: jenk

LOLOL!

Produce examples or stop making the claim.


728 posted on 02/21/2010 7:27:12 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: jenk

What did he steal? Was it something Levin came up with on his own?


729 posted on 02/21/2010 7:27:26 PM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Pan_Yan

Excellent post Pan_Yan you said what many feel here we appreciate both Mark and Glenn!


730 posted on 02/21/2010 7:27:58 PM PST by restornu
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To: Texas Eagle

Good luck. That claim has been made many times here, and people have asked for proof, and the poster just pretends like no one ever asked.


731 posted on 02/21/2010 7:29:04 PM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Raider Sam

Nobody can ever tell me the answer to that.

I’ve heard Levin rant about it in a childish and pathetic manner many times and never got an example from him either.


732 posted on 02/21/2010 7:29:28 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: whatisthetruth
So now Levin attacks him for it when he had every opportunity to make this very case at CPAC in person. Sounds now like sour grapes to me.

levin criticizes the content of beck's speech - not the fact that he made at speech or where he made a speech

733 posted on 02/21/2010 7:29:44 PM PST by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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To: Sergeant Tim

Thanks for posting the thread! Now I’m going to catch up reading through it....


734 posted on 02/21/2010 7:30:03 PM PST by cleveland gop
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To: Utah Binger

plygy? really?


735 posted on 02/21/2010 7:31:21 PM PST by reaganaut (- "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Pan_Yan
I'll know the GOP has come to it's senses when people like Mitch McConnell and Michael Steele are no longer in charge.

Michael stepped down?
736 posted on 02/21/2010 7:31:27 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Sergeant Tim

Beck has an “entertainment” edge to his TV show and he is
a bit “all over tne place” but he is pushing the right philosophy in general.


737 posted on 02/21/2010 7:32:02 PM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: rockabyebaby
I love both Levin and Beck, I can't take sides. :)

Levin is a Constitutional Scholar and Beck was out in front of the Tea Party movement almost from the very beginning with his common man's approach.

We need them both to drive our message home.

738 posted on 02/21/2010 7:32:55 PM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (Markets and Marxists Don't Mix! Audit the FED NOW!)
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To: ohioWfan; SoCalPol; rockabyebaby

SCP is lying, there has been no ping to this thread from the Savage pinglist, not that it matters, the same people who dislike Beck also tend to dislike Savage.


739 posted on 02/21/2010 7:33:01 PM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: presently no screen name

No, but we can always hope.


740 posted on 02/21/2010 7:33:41 PM PST by Pan_Yan (Is the sarcasm tag really necessary?)
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