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Mark Levin: I have no idea what philosophy Glenn Beck is promoting. And neither does he
Mark Levin Fan ^ | February 21, 2010 | Mark R. Levin

Posted on 02/21/2010 1:14:06 PM PST by Sergeant Tim

I was invited to be the opening speaker at Saturday's CPAC session. I had accepted but then, to my amazement, I learned that the John Birch Society would be one of many co-sponsors. This takes the big-tent idea many steps too far for me. So, I withdrew. Apparently, others were not so moved. That's fine. But it wasn't for me. Bill Buckley and Barry Goldwater, among others, chased the Birchers from the movement decades ago. And they're not a part of the movement. So, to give them a booth at CPAC was boneheaded.

I want to commend Bill Bennett for his wise piece this morning on the Corner. I agree with him.

I have no idea what philosophy Glenn Beck is promoting. And neither does he. It's incoherent. One day it's populist, the next it's libertarian bordering on anarchy, next it's conservative but not really, etc. And to what end? I believe he has announced that he is no longer going to endorse candidates because our problems are bigger than politics. Well, of course, our problems are not easily dissected into categories, but to reject politics is to reject the manner in which we try to organize ourselves. This is as old as Plato and Aristotle. Why would conservatives choose to surrender the political battlefield to our adversaries -- who are trashing this society -- when we must retake it in order to preserve our society? Philosophy, politics, culture, family, etc., are all of one. Edmund Burke, among others, wrote about it extensively, and far better that I possibly can. But all elements of the civil society require our defense. Besides, why preach such a strategy when conservatism is on the rise and the GOP is acting more responsibly?

Moreover, when he does discuss politics, which, ironically, is often, how can he claim today that there is no difference between the two parties when, but for the Republicans in Congress, government-run health care, cap-and-trade, card check, and a long list of other disastrous policies would already be law? The GOP is becoming more conservative thanks to the grass-roots movement and a political uprising across the country, which has even reached into New Jersey and Massachusetts. Why keep pretending otherwise? My only conclusion is that he is promoting a third party or some third way, which is counter-productive to defeating Obama and the Democrat Congress. These are perilous times and this kind of an approach will keep the statists in power for decades.

And what of his flirtations with Ron Paul's lunacy respecting America's supposed provocations with her enemies, including al-Qaeda? Why should such a fatal defect in thinking be ignored? Do we conservatives agree with this?

Finally, Beck is fond of congratulating himself for being the only or the first host to criticize George Bush's spending. This is demonstrably false. I not only attacked his spending, but the creation of the Homeland Security Department, the prescription drug add-on for Medicare, his "moderate" tax cuts, as well as his nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court, "comprehensive immigration reform," and so forth. And I was not alone -- Rush and Sean did the same, for example. And as someone who fought liberal Republicans in the trenches when campaigning for Reagan in 1976 and 1980, I don't need lectures from Beck, who was nowhere to be found, about big-spending Republicans. But this is not about me, or Beck, or Beck's past drunkenness (which he endlessly wears as some kind of badge of honor). It is about preserving our society for our children and grandchildren. Beck spent precious little time aiming fire at Obama-Pelosi-Reid in his speech, and it is they who are destroying our country.

On as a positive note, I am personally happy to see that Beck has cleaned up his public act -- as best I can tell, no more boiling fake frogs on TV or pretending to pour gasoline on someone -- and the rest of it. But I do think his speech, which contained nuggets of truth heard before and read elsewhere, including on Rush's show and in my book and many other books, may have distracted from some of the more compelling and coherent speeches at the event, including Marco Rubio's superb speech. I fear the media will see to this. I hope not.


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To: reaganaut
i’m not mormon - got nothing against them since they don't say i must convert or die

i do have some mormon friends in utah - and i have nothing but respect for them

i did read a book whose author had left the lds church - it had some interesting insights into the marriage ceremony (and i am sure many other things) - but what stands out in my mind was dealing with death - and that a man must lift the veil from his wife if she is to enter heaven - and that she will be perpetually pregnant in heaven - and a few other things i’d rather not say here

i guess for an outsider, some of it seems odd since we were not reared in the lds church - they probably think the same of us

901 posted on 02/21/2010 10:00:44 PM PST by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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To: restornu

He probably listened every night while being driven home to New Canaan, CT.


902 posted on 02/21/2010 10:01:41 PM PST by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: restornu

Do you really imagine that any national talker does all of his own show-prep research? Just wondering...


903 posted on 02/21/2010 10:01:46 PM PST by ProudGulfWarVet65 (The question is, it seems to me, is who the most immediate threat is. Sad, huh?)
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To: ProudGulfWarVet65; presently no screen name; restornu; Utah Binger

As I posted to Resty, I don’t hate Mormons. Several of us got on the thread earlier and I was pinged about the LDS ‘white horse prophecy’, then some questions were asked and I responed with information. More of a separate subtopic.

I don’t like Beck and I am an ex-Mormon who became a Christian (non denom) several years ago and I have strong opinions abou the LDS.

But the reason I do not like beck has nothing to do with the fact he is Mormon.

Resty is inciting fear unecessarily.


904 posted on 02/21/2010 10:03:36 PM PST by reaganaut (- "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Raider Sam

I’m sure, but I am also sure that there are some who worship Levin as well. I am not one of them either.


905 posted on 02/21/2010 10:04:54 PM PST by reaganaut (- "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Sergeant Tim

Beck is “self-educated.” Must have bubbled up from within him, like ‘black gold’ up from the ground on the Beverly Hillbillies. LOL!


906 posted on 02/21/2010 10:05:26 PM PST by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: ProudGulfWarVet65

LOL.


907 posted on 02/21/2010 10:05:41 PM PST by reaganaut (- "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Sergeant Tim
"Try Googling it"

I did.

"Breitbart vs the YouTube videos of Beck’s shows"

I typed that in verbatim and Google asked me if I meant "Breitbart vs the YouTube videos of Beck’s shoes"... so obviously not a hot topic on the internets

"trip to the library to get the books of Beck"

Well if that isn't a smoking gun, I don't know what is. Side question: Why are you assigning me homework?

"Also, I can get from Mark’s show archives to back up what I say what Mark said that’s prove Beck said nearly the same soon thereafter."

What a surprise, the rest comes from Mark Levin.

908 posted on 02/21/2010 10:09:39 PM PST by Cheap_Hessian (I am the Grim FReeper.)
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To: sloop

I was Mormon for several years. I have a different understanding about the LDS church than most who have never been LDS.

I still have several friends who are LDS and I love them dearly.

I found out many things including I was lied to by my own church about their history and teachings, that is what started me on my way out.

I became a Christian six months after I left the LDS. There is a world of difference.

Feel free to freepmail me if you have any specific questions.


909 posted on 02/21/2010 10:09:40 PM PST by reaganaut (- "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

I get you, and I didn’t mean to attack you or anything. Obviously you have an insight most of us don’t-but isn’t this a pointless distraction? What was that original topic again? What’s next-discussing Jewish rituals because of Mark? That’s really all I’m saying here.


910 posted on 02/21/2010 10:11:05 PM PST by ProudGulfWarVet65 (The question is, it seems to me, is who the most immediate threat is. Sad, huh?)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

You can lead a horse to water but...


911 posted on 02/21/2010 10:11:13 PM PST by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: reaganaut

Merciful God, forgive us, we like DEXTER!

LOL.


912 posted on 02/21/2010 10:12:06 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: ProudGulfWarVet65

like I said, it was a sub topic. Happens on these threads.


913 posted on 02/21/2010 10:12:09 PM PST by reaganaut (- "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: onyx

well...after that season finale...lol.

I am STILL mad about it.


914 posted on 02/21/2010 10:12:49 PM PST by reaganaut (- "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut
Is that any clearer?

YES! Do you see how many words were needed to explain that one - for me to understand! LOL.

Do they legally change their name or is that for chapel/temple purposes? And when they are home do they call either by their new names?

They are SOOOO out of line with God's Word. Who do they serve, who is their god? Does Beck every mention his 'new name'? Or are the names secret, also? I think Mitt's new name is Barry.

Thanks. I came to lurk tonight but got myself some education. Maybe Beck can give us some history on Mormanism. ;)
915 posted on 02/21/2010 10:13:20 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: reaganaut

At least I didn’t spoil it for you...LOL.


916 posted on 02/21/2010 10:14:07 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: reaganaut
Although I am always intrigued by how so many of the LDS will vote for another LDS (even a RINO like Romney) over a non-mormon conservative candidate.

Seems like the same mentality as the blacks who voted for Barry just because he's black.
917 posted on 02/21/2010 10:16:07 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Sergeant Tim
You can lead a horse to water kool-aid but...
918 posted on 02/21/2010 10:16:14 PM PST by Cheap_Hessian (I am the Grim FReeper.)
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To: presently no screen name

Do they legally change their name or is that for chapel/temple purposes? And when they are home do they call either by their new names?

- - - - - - -
The names are secret, for men they only give them to the person playing “God” at a certain point in the ceremony.

For women, they give their secret names to their husband at a certain point right before they get married.

No one else knows although the same name is given in every temple on any given day so people who go through the same day have the same ‘new name’.


919 posted on 02/21/2010 10:16:30 PM PST by reaganaut (- "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Sergeant Tim

Tahnk you for posting Marco’s speech...par excellant! If he continues I see a true statesman on the rise.


920 posted on 02/21/2010 10:17:30 PM PST by caww
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