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Hour-long hailstorm may have caused 1,000-year freeze, say scientists
Telegraph ^ | 04/02/10

Posted on 04/02/2010 4:06:27 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Hour-long hailstorm may have caused 1,000-year freeze, say scientists

An hour-long hailstorm from space may have changed the climate of the Earth in 11,000 BC, leading to a freeze lasting more than 1,000 years, scientists say.

Published: 8:00AM BST 02 Apr 2010

An hour-long hailstorm from space may have changed the climate of the Earth in 11,000 BC, leading to a freeze lasting more than 1,000 years, scientists say.

A comet may well have caused the earth to freeze for over 1,000 years Photo: GETTY

The catastrophe, caused by a disintegrating comet, wiped out large numbers of animal species and disrupted human cultures.

A new theory put forward by according to Professor Bill Napier, from the Cardiff University Astrobiology Centre suggests it occurred when the Earth strayed into a dense trail of fragments shed by a large comet.

Thousands of chunks of material from the comet would have rained down on Earth, each one releasing the energy of a one megaton nuclear bomb.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: billnapier; bolide; catastrophism; cloviscomet; comet; godsgravesglyphs; iceage; impact; lakecuitzeo; mexico; napier; stalactites; stalagmites; youngerdryas
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So it was not due to global warming at the time, as conventional theory has suggested?
1 posted on 04/02/2010 4:06:28 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; SunkenCiv
Catastrophism, ping!
2 posted on 04/02/2010 4:07:12 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The break-up of the comet was probably caused by a collision with a prototype SUV lost in space.


3 posted on 04/02/2010 4:10:13 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of cat attacks while typing!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Thousands of chunks of material from the comet would have rained down on Earth, each one releasing the energy of a one megaton nuclear bomb.

We need an immediate summit to reduce the universe's stockpile of comet fragments. You can't hug your children with densely packed frozen particle arms.

4 posted on 04/02/2010 4:11:16 AM PDT by edpc (Those Lefties just ain't right)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

More likely the fallout from the Obama/Farrakkan Mother Ship.


5 posted on 04/02/2010 4:18:00 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (i)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

So maybe global warming is real, we’ve just had a lot more comets lately! Whew. I was starting to lose my trust in liberal (aka phony) scientists.


6 posted on 04/02/2010 4:22:19 AM PDT by Woebama (Never, never, never quit)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Oh. The major climate events which accompanied the end of the last Ice Age at that time had nothing to do with it then. OK. Saturn’s rings are considered to be mostly ice...so maybe it was an attack by the Saturnians.


7 posted on 04/02/2010 4:22:43 AM PDT by cake_crumb (RR on ObieCare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs&feature=player_embedded#)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The Napier Stray Earth Theory, which no doubt formed the base function of the Capsizing Guam Theory. It is a monumental time, in the advancement of human intellect. The hypnotic idiotic will soon be ...... .... ........ ....


8 posted on 04/02/2010 4:25:04 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: TigerLikesRooster

People reading these things emanating from academic centers need to become familiar with the phrase, “Publish or perish”.


9 posted on 04/02/2010 4:25:38 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: RedHeeler
Capsizing Guam Theory

Idiot congressman didn't even know that all islands are heavily packed with styrofoam on the underside to make sure they don't sink.

10 posted on 04/02/2010 4:27:17 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It IS interesting though, and as likely as any other theory. More likely than some.


11 posted on 04/02/2010 4:27:50 AM PDT by cake_crumb (RR on ObieCare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs&feature=player_embedded#)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Some Cro-Magnon looking at the ruins of his hut probably thought up “homeowners insurance”.


12 posted on 04/02/2010 4:28:44 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; All

Then again, it may not have.


13 posted on 04/02/2010 4:29:13 AM PDT by notdownwidems (Vote Republican! We're 1/10 of 1% better than the other guys!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
it occurred when the Earth strayed

It is never good when mother strays.

14 posted on 04/02/2010 4:30:22 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: cake_crumb

It is interesting and the biblical flood story could be inferring a similar event.


15 posted on 04/02/2010 4:32:14 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: TigerLikesRooster
11,000 BC? 13,000 years ago the ice age was still going strong.
Besides, how does that mesh with this junk science from 2 days ago:

Mega-flood triggered cooling 13,000 years ago: scientists
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2483983/posts
16 posted on 04/02/2010 4:33:30 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

A hailstorm causes wildfires?

You learn something new every day.


17 posted on 04/02/2010 4:39:04 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ("...a whip of political correctness strangles their voice"-Vaclav Klaus on GW skeptics)
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To: BitWielder1
That's the global warmingcooling theory which was invented to explain the uncomfortabe fact that the warming earth is stubbornly cooling.

In summary, it goes like this: the sea levels rise due to melting ice, which puts so much water vapor into the atmosphere that the resulting dense cloud cover blocks sunlight, causing Nuclear Winter and resulting in Instant Ice Age, as seen in the accompanying D- disaster movie, The Day After Tomorrow, which was "based on real science".

18 posted on 04/02/2010 4:42:11 AM PDT by cake_crumb (President Reagan on ObieCare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs&feature=player_embedded#)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Will it rain Easter Sunday? No, you cannot tell me with certainty... so nothing they “think” may have happened 11,000 years ago is any more relevant than Star Trek is for the future of our space exploration... as of now... it is all science fiction. I despise the eco-wh0res.

LLS

19 posted on 04/02/2010 4:47:29 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: BitWielder1

“Back when I was young, around 11,000 or 13,000 BC — I forget which — we were coming out of an Ice Age, and we were going into a 1000 year freeze! We had floods! And hailstorms! Comets were whizzing paat us! You kids today have it easy!” [/very old codger]


20 posted on 04/02/2010 4:55:42 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I do not want the Union to be maintained. I want the US to break up. I support secession.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Will it rain Easter Sunday?

Yes.

(somewhere!)

21 posted on 04/02/2010 4:55:55 AM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

About 11,000 BC there was a huge rainstorm that killed many many species and thoroughly disrupted human society? Hmmm... I’ve definitely read that very explanation in a book somewhere... now what was that book called?... Hmmm....


22 posted on 04/02/2010 5:09:10 AM PDT by sklar
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To: cake_crumb
That's the global warmingcooling theory...

Right. Cooling causes warming and warming causes cooling, or both, or somesuch.
It's not quite clear but we have to spend trillions to fix it, right now.

The REAL agenda is to take as much money from the private sector as possible, by hook or by crook, and make the gov't squander it.
Globalwarmingcooling is just one of many excuses.
At least they still need excuses.
One day they won't even bother with that much.

23 posted on 04/02/2010 5:12:39 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Yea, I remember it fondly. I take a hailstorm over a legislation-storm any day.

Sigh! (showing my age)
24 posted on 04/02/2010 5:15:10 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: sklar

This one is a hail of comets. Each crashing onto earth at such a high speed that you don’t see much water, but lots of heat. It is no different than a giant rock hitting earth.


25 posted on 04/02/2010 5:18:40 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I have some comet credits that I’m willing to sell


26 posted on 04/02/2010 5:20:25 AM PDT by grjr21
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To: Fresh Wind

Well, many giant blocks of ice streaking down to earth at unimaginable speed resulted in something quite different from what you see in typical hailstorm. The release of heat from such collusion is so vast that it will instantly vaporize comet and set everything in its neighborhooed on fire.


27 posted on 04/02/2010 5:25:39 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Of course. Gobal warming causes global cooling. We already knew that.


28 posted on 04/02/2010 5:42:36 AM PDT by incredulous in PA
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To: incredulous in PA
This is different from Global Warming enviros are pushing. This theory says that massive amount of water should be dumped in a short period of time to create ice age. Besides, soot from wildfire and other debris ejected into air from impact will block sunlight, too.

Unlike enviros global warming, this is the work of single catastrophic event.

29 posted on 04/02/2010 5:51:32 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: thulldud

An accurate weather report!!!

LLS


30 posted on 04/02/2010 6:37:42 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Wow, how did the Bush family know to launch a comet?


31 posted on 04/02/2010 6:45:05 AM PDT by glorgau
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The release of heat from such collusion is so vast

The Vast Leftwing Collusion ... it's all hot air, lol.

Seriously, though, I was participating in a thread discussing ancient plagues here on FR, just a day or two ago, and it's looking more and more likely that the "Black Beath" had an extraterrestrial origin, rather than being bubonic plague. Reports of comets and fire raining down, massive earthquakes and odd storms match up well with the beginning of both the Justinian Plague and the Black Death in China and Europe.

It appears to me, that science is slowly coming around to a more Biblically compatible view, unintentionally of course. A large icy comet, or fragments from one, could accound for a sudden and widespread, massive flood, legends of which exist in every culture, in every corner of the world.

32 posted on 04/02/2010 7:00:12 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Spellcheck is my friend, spellcheck is my friend, spellcheck is my friend.

Beath = Death, accound = account.


33 posted on 04/02/2010 7:06:07 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: LibLieSlayer
"Will it rain Easter Sunday? No, you cannot tell me with certainty... so nothing they “think” may have happened 11,000 years ago is any more relevant than Star Trek is for the future of our space exploration... as of now... it is all science fiction. I despise the eco-wh0res."

Actually, the referenced article is the result of two factors:

1) First, a scientist is trying to get some media attention directed toward his research.

2) Second, there is too much research money running about that funds scientists to look into these matters.

It's not that big a deal that he's trying to get his 15 minutes of fame. But no doubt the real eco-whores will try and us it somehow to promote their version of "climate change."

34 posted on 04/02/2010 7:08:12 AM PDT by tom h
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To: tom h

Indeed.

LLS


35 posted on 04/02/2010 8:03:50 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: blam; muawiyah

Interesting theory here.


36 posted on 04/02/2010 10:02:59 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie; johniegrad
Clube and Napier published an excellent book in 1990 that details much of this already:

Cosmic Winter

Professor BILL NAPIER is an astronomer at the Armagh Observatory in Northern Ireland and an honorary professor at the Institute for Astrobiology of Cardiff University. He is interested in the relationship between life and the Universe and is a leading authority on the celestial hazard issue. He has co-authored three scientific books and about eighty research papers.

37 posted on 04/02/2010 10:13:32 AM PDT by blam
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To: hennie pennie
See this:

Comet Theory Collides With Clovis Research, May Explain Disappearance of Ancient People

38 posted on 04/02/2010 10:16:29 AM PDT by blam
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To: thulldud
Will it rain Easter Sunday?

No.

(somewhere!)

39 posted on 04/02/2010 10:17:12 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: blam
Ice Age Ends Smashingly: Did A Comet Blow Up Over Eastern Canada? (More) (Carolina Bays)


40 posted on 04/02/2010 10:19:22 AM PDT by blam
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To: Lazamataz; LibLieSlayer
To LLS: See there! You pays your money and takes your choice!

Q: How many lawyers does it take to change a light bulb?

A: How many can you afford?

41 posted on 04/02/2010 10:29:27 AM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: BitWielder1
The last major glaciation was over about 15,000 years ago. The current interglacial is 5,000 years overdue to disappear.

What occurred in the middle is a phenomenon called "The Younger Dryas" ~ about 11,000 years ago, after everything had become warm and toasty and even forests were returning to the Midwest, it got nasty and cold again and glaciers built up almost overnight.

This diaster destroyed the Clovis culture in North America, and in some manner wiped out both the Giant Hairy Elephants, which was bad, and the Giant Nasty Saber toothed Tigers, which was good!

It lasted 1000 years.

Studies of nanoparticles left behind at the time indicate that a comet caused the problem one way or the other ~ either by dropping a giant hailstorm on Earth, or blasting holes in the remaining glacial sheet in Canada, or knocking SUVs off the road ~ something like that.

Whatever you learned as a child about the Ice Age(s) is bunk. There were at least 20 major cycles over the last couple of million years. The next one is certainly going to happen.

42 posted on 04/02/2010 3:56:42 PM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: TigerLikesRooster
The catastrophe, caused by a disintegrating comet, wiped out large numbers of animal species and disrupted human cultures.

Anything which disrupts food supplies disrupts human culture.

If these hit with the power of megaton bombs, where are the craters?

43 posted on 04/02/2010 3:58:56 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster


It's a space peanut

44 posted on 04/02/2010 4:00:45 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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It is no different than a giant rock hitting earth.

Yep, except you'd get a crater and no rock.

So where are the craters?

45 posted on 04/02/2010 4:03:06 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
There should be many small craters made by those comets. However,even if they said each has the power of megaton bomb, its depth cannot be as deep as the one we tend to associate with the power of such magnitude. It does not help that earth was still covered with thick ice and when glacier finally melt, the part of crater itself could have been washed out. Then, there is a chance that comet broke up in the atmosphere.

I remember somebody tried to find out exactly how many craters Earth has, upon seeing so many on the Moon. He figured that Earth must have as many as the Moon. He wondered where they were. Or Earth is really lucky to escape barrage from space? I think he used some earth-penetrating radar(?) to sweep the earth and found out there are a lot more crater impressions than we see on the surface. Most have been covered up.

I am sure many comets landed on earth and made some marks. We have to track down all those crater impressions under the surface and ascertain their age. That is a lot of work but I hope they are able to do it someday.

46 posted on 04/02/2010 7:26:58 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: blam

Yup.

Seems to be good evidence of a comet coming in - splitting, part of it exploding over Alaska, and the rest exploding a bit southwest of Lake Superior

about 13,000 yrs ago, around 11,400 BC.


47 posted on 04/02/2010 7:32:48 PM PDT by djf
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This theory is as valid as Global Warming. Looks like he didn’t get a grant (taxpayers money) to dream up this scenario. Hey, maybe it’s true go ask the cave men or dinosaurs (/sarc)


48 posted on 04/02/2010 7:37:40 PM PDT by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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As long as this guy is not trying to dictate policy on the global scale which runs the risk of wasting trillions or money or even worse ruining millions of lives, he could push it as scientific hypothesis. I am against applying half-baked theory to human society, based on some ingrained ideological bias, such as quest for regaining primordial unmolested past. That is basically what leftism in the West is about.

Many man-made catastrophes of the world in last couple of centuries originated from this mentality in a nutshell.

49 posted on 04/02/2010 7:47:23 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization

by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith


50 posted on 04/02/2010 7:47:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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