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Republicans Sound Alarm on Administration Plan to Seize 401(k)s
Human Events ^ | May 4, 2010 | Connie Hair

Posted on 05/04/2010 7:43:39 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction

In February, the White House released its “Annual Report on the Middle Class” containing new regulations favored by Big Labor including a bailout of critically underfunded union pension plans through “retirement security” options.

The radical solution most favored by Big Labor is the seizure of private 401(k) plans for government disbursement -- which lets them off the hook for their collapsing retirement scheme. And, of course, the Obama administration is eager to accommodate their buddies.

Vice President Joe Biden floated the idea, called “Guaranteed Retirement Accounts” (GRAs), in the February “Middle Class” report.

In conjunction with the report’s release, the Obama administration jointly issued through the Departments of Labor and Treasury a “Request for Information” regarding the “annuitization” of 401(k) plans through “Lifetime Income Options” in the form of a notice to the public of proposed issuance of rules and regulations. (pdf)

House Republican Leader John Boehner (Ohio) and a group of House Republicans are mounting an effort to fight back.

The American people have become painfully aware over the past year that elections sometimes have calamitous consequences. Republicans lack the votes (for now) to reign in the Obama administration’s myriad nationalization plans for everything from health care to the automobile industry.

Now the backdoor bulls-eye is on your 401(k) plan and the trillions of dollars the government would control through seizure, regulation and federal disbursement of mandatory retirement accounts.

Boehner and the group are sounding the alarm, warning bureaucrats to keep their hands off of America’s private retirement plans.

Just when you thought it was safe to come up for air after the government takeover of health care.

The entirety of the House GOP Savings Recovery Group letter outling the issue that was sent last night to the Labor and Treasury secretaries:

The Honorable Hilda L. Solis Secretary U.S. Department of Labor 200 Constitution Avenue, NW Washington, DC 20210

The Honorable Timothy Geithner Secretary U.S. Department of the Treasury 1500 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW Washington, DC 20210

Dear Secretaries Solis and Geithner:

As members of the Republican Savings Solutions Group, we write today to express our strong opposition to any proposal to eliminate or federalize private-sector defined contribution pension plans, such as 401(k)s, or impose burdensome new requirements upon the businesses, large and small, who choose to offer these plans to their employees.

In the Annual Report of the White House Task Force on the Middle Class, Vice President Biden discussed at length the creation of so-called “Guaranteed Retirement Accounts, (GRAs)” which would provide for protection from “inflation and market risk” and potentially “guarantee a specified real return above the rate of inflation” -- presumably at taxpayer expense. In the Report, the Vice President recommended “further study of these issues.”

The Vice President’s comments are troubling, insofar as they come on the heels of testimony before Congress from supporters of GRAs proposing to eliminate the favorable tax treatment currently afforded to 401(k) plans, and instead use those dollars to fund government-invested GRAs into which all employees would be required to contribute a portion of their salary -- again, with a government subsidy. These advocates would, essentially, dismantle the present private-sector 401(k) system, replacing it instead with a government-run investment plan, the size and scope of which remain to be seen. This despite data showing that 90 percent of households have a favorable opinion of the existing 401(k)/IRA system.

In light of these facts, we write today to express our opposition in the strongest terms to any effort to “nationalize” the private 401(k) system, or any proposal that would dismantle or disfavor the private 401(k) system in favor of a government-run retirement security regime.

Similarly, and more recently, the Departments of Labor and Treasury have jointly issued a “Request for Information” regarding the “annuitization” of 401(k) plans through “Lifetime Income Options.” While we appreciate the Departments’ seeking guidance and information from all parties and stakeholders in advance of regulatory activity, we strongly urge that the Departments not proceed with any regulation in this area before they have carefully and thoroughly considered all of the information received.

More specifically, we urge that the Departments take no action to mandate that plan sponsors -- often, small businesses -- include a “lifetime income” or “annuitization” option if they choose to offer a 401(k) plan to their employees, or that beneficiaries take some or all of their retirement savings in such an option. Data shows that 70 percent of Americans oppose the concept of a mandated annuity or government payout of their 401(k) plan. On a more fundamental level, Congress should not be in the business of choosing “winners” and “losers” among retirement security stakeholders. Instead, we urge the Departments to make it easier for employers to include retirement income solutions in their savings plans and to help workers learn more about the value of their retirement savings as a source of retirement income. Finally, to the extent new mandates and bureaucratic red tape from Washington push small employers out of the business of offering these plans to their employees, we would submit such an effort weakens, rather than strengthens retirement security.

We appreciate your consideration of our views in these important matters and stand ready to work with you and the Administration to promote secure and adequate retirement savings for all Americans.

Sincerely,

House Republican Leader John Boehner (R-OH) Rep. John Kline (R-MN) Rep. Dave Camp (R-MI) Rep. Sam Johnson (R-TX) Rep. Dean Heller (R-NV) Rep. Brett Guthrie (R-KY) Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) Rep. Pat Tiberi (R-OH) Rep. Bob Latta (R-OH) Rep. Erik Paulsen (R-MN) Rep. Lynn Jenkins (R-KS) Rep. Ed Royce (R-CA) Rep. Buck McKeon (R-CA)


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To: Hoosier-Daddy
The chance of them kneeling at the edge of a corpse fill ditch would sober them up, fast.

There are too many police, tho. They are the ones who are between you and honest government. LEOs enforce the LAW, and the local, state and federal power structures decide what Law is. LEOs could give a rat's patoot about justice.

Go to the Second City Cop website. These guys will work within the LAW, regardless of whether or not honesty, truth and the Constitution are violated. Just don't screw with their pensions. Otherwise, they just whine.

41 posted on 05/04/2010 8:13:08 AM PDT by jonascord (We've got the Constitution to protect us. Why should we worry?)
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To: jonascord
But, who are you going to shoot? Overpaid federal employees? Police? Congressmen? Sorry, but it's easier to just bend over, grab both cheeks and spread 'em. You might try lubing up with butter...

Read the book Unintended Consequences by John Ross. It's easier than you think.

42 posted on 05/04/2010 8:13:49 AM PDT by IncPen (HEY GORE -- GIVE BACK THE OSCAR! - GIVE BACK THE NOBEL! ANSWER THE HOAX!)
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To: pgkdan
"...I would be willing to take up arms against the government. This would be the act that puts me right over the edge!"

No offense intended here but really, let's examine this. You say you are willing to take up arms and I'm assuming you believe others will too. Well let's look at that:

Obama has devastated everything he's touched (by design btw) We are living in tyranny now and the only thing that hasn't happened is the brutalization of the citizenry (which is coming soon imo) and NOT ONE SOUL.....NO ONE has made any attempt to remove these treasonous people. Not one attempt. All we keep hearing is wait until November (a mirage). NOTHING can be done etc etc except "vote them out" (I'm so sick of hearing that because it isn't going to happen). This confiscation will be swallowed...with only a few screaming...and those screams will fade just like in the health care. The majority of the Republicans are on board with this no matter what they say. They bitch, and then they see how they will personally benefit and then they shut up. We are alone. As another poster said...49% voted for this regime. I hope their lives are absolutely devasted in the coming weeks because they took all of us down the drain.

43 posted on 05/04/2010 8:16:05 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Control the American people? Herding cats would be easier.)
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To: VRW Conspirator
They won’t do it. There would be a national outcry.

You mean like the national outcry over Obamacare?

44 posted on 05/04/2010 8:16:39 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: ConjunctionJunction

The government has gotten completely out of hand. They are treating us like slaves who have no rights. Time to march on Washington DC. I’ll be the one selling torches and pitchforks.


45 posted on 05/04/2010 8:16:53 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: VRW Conspirator

GOVERNMENT UNIONS

46 posted on 05/04/2010 8:17:23 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: ConjunctionJunction

It would cost them more than the value of my 401K should they decide to steal it from me.


47 posted on 05/04/2010 8:18:14 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: VRW Conspirator
They won’t do it. There would be a national outcry.

Only from those who are losing money.

There will be an outcry of cheers from those who the money is going to. Sadly in 2010 America the numbers favor the latter.

48 posted on 05/04/2010 8:24:53 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Jewbacca

I’m concerned that the Roth conversion is a scheme to generate immediate income tax revenue through the conversions over the next two years, and then change the rules to tax Roth IRAs when they are withdrawn.


49 posted on 05/04/2010 8:27:19 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

A government doled out LIMITED annuity all but ensures there will be a hefty balance in your 401K at your death. Then the vultures seize it as a Death Tax.


50 posted on 05/04/2010 8:30:57 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: nascarnation
Only from those who are losing money.

There will be an outcry of cheers from those who the money is going to. Sadly in 2010 America the numbers favor the latter.

Bullshit. I don't make much money and I don't have a 401K. I bet I'm not the only poor conservative.

51 posted on 05/04/2010 8:31:58 AM PDT by muggs (Hope and Change = Hoax and Chains)
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To: ConjunctionJunction; MinuteGal; mcmuffin; Brytani; seekthetruth; Bob Ireland; sheikdetailfeather; ..

Rush Limbaugh Wed, 17 Sep 2008
Pearl of Wisdom: “If you’re worried about your 401K and retirement account, vote Obama. He says he’ll fix it. What? You mean that doesn’t inspire confidence?”

The Democrats Want Your 401(k)
October 28, 2008

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_102808/content/01125111.member.html

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: George Miller, who runs a congressional committee, Democrat in California, came out with the first notion of just getting rid of your being able to deduct for your income your contribution to your 401(k), that the government is “losing” $80 billion and we can’t afford lose that so they want to take that away. Then they had a hearing last week where a professor from the New School for Social Research, a professor of economics, Teresa Ghilarducci, she appeared and said: I’ve got a better plan. What we want to do, we want to take your 401(k) at its August level, before the crash. We’ll give you that equivalent and put it in your Social Security account, essentially, and we’re going to invest that money that we take from your retirement account, your 401(k), at its August level. We’re going to buy government bonds with it, which will guarantee you 3% — and then we will require that you put 5% of your pay into your 401(k) although it’s not yours anymore. The government owns it. They will manage it. They will take care of it, and then when your retirement day comes you’ll get your Social Security check and part of your check will be whatever your 401(k) monthly payout is, after 3% of growth every year under the stewardship of the government. So I mentioned this on Greta’s show.

Yesterday in Seattle, Kirby Wilbur had this exchange with her. She said, “Your plan, as I understand it, would end the tax deferral status of 401(k)s. I have one, and I put in a certain amount every month and that deducted from my growth so I don’t pay taxes on it ‘til I pull it out when I retire. So it would end that and it would bring about a new government retirement plan. Is that correct?”

[]GHILARDUCCI: Not quite.

WILBUR: Okay.

GHILARDUCCI: You know, Rush Limbaugh said that’s what it was.

WILBUR: Okay.

GHILARDUCCI: Whatever you have in your 401(k) now will keep its tax break. So everybody who has their 401(k) plan will be grandfathered in. But what I proposed, instead of getting a tax deduction — like a decrease in your taxes by whatever your tax rate is, so if you’re at the very high income, your tax rate is 39%, and if you’re at the very low, you’re at 15%, and 40 million people make so little they don’t pay any taxes at all. Instead of the deduction coming from your tax rate, so if you’re high, whatever you put in your 401(k), like a dollar, let’s say, or a hundred dollars, you get back 39 cents, or $39, if you’re the high rate; 15 dollars, or 15 cents if you’re at the low rate, or nothing if you’re at the low rate. I proposed that we just transfer the deduction to a credit so that everybody gets $600. So I’m not taking away the tax break. I’m actually, um, giving everybody a flat amount so that it’s more equal.

RUSH: (laughing) Where am I wrong about this? Everybody is going to get...? Socialism. Everybody is equal now, whether you’ve got a 39% tax rate and you can deduct that amount, you get that equivalent deduction. This is all gobbledygook. Basically I’m just going to give everybody 600 bucks and you give me your IRA, and I’m going to buy government bonds with it at 3% a year. I’ll just give you 600 bucks and that’s how we’ll take care of this. So Kirby says, “Now, wait, there will be a new plan. All of us who bring in a paycheck will put 5% of our income into a retirement plan administered by Social Security — guided by the pension folks who do Congress and the Federal Reserve and then you’re gonna guarantee at least a 3% return. The government would supplement that with $600 annual payment to the plan?”

GHILARDUCCI: The government would guarantee 3% plus inflation.

WILBUR: Okay, 3%, okay, plus inflation.

GHILARDUCCI: Yes.

WILBUR: So the bonds would be adjusted. As I understand the $600 would be adjusted as well, right?

GHILARDUCCI: It would. It would.

WILBUR: Okay.

GHILARDUCCI: And what’s amazing about this is that it’s actually, um, doesn’t cost the government anybody. (sic) I’m just rearranging the tax breaks that are available now for 401(k)s and spreading — spreading the wealth.

RUSH: Spreading the wealth! Her proposal... Now, this is not Obama’s yet. This is George Miller’s idea. This is the Democrats in Congress. This is why I say, “McCain has gotta tie Obama to these people.” Obama will go for this. She’s taking your 401(k) and giving you $600 a year and 3% interest — and the Social Security Administration administers it, and you can put 5% a year into it.
BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: I want to go back and play the last sound bite here with Teresa Ghilarducci, who is a professor of economics at the New School for Social Research, and she testified before a House committee, Democrat committee last week on how she thinks the government should basically take your 401(k) and administer it, take it away from you. That’s bad enough, but it is worse than that, because she says “spread the wealth around.” What that means is spread your wealth, your wealth. So let’s say you have a 401(k), and I’m just going to use an arbitrary number, your 401(k) right now has assets in it of $50,000, somebody else has assets of $30,000, she doesn’t think that’s fair to the person that has 30,000. So rather than you get a tax subsidy based on your 39% tax bracket, she’s going to give you and the person with an IRA of 30,000, 600 bucks and call it even, a year, plus invest the value of your IRA at 3% adjusted for inflation and then pay you back when you retire. You’ll get one check, it will say Social Security Administration. Your 401(k) is gone. The max you can contribute to it under her plan every year would be 5%. It’s gone. Kaput. Now, this is not Obama’s plan, I want to stress. This is the Democrats in Congress. This is what they want to do. I don’t care if they’re Obama or if they’re George Miller, Barney Frank, liberals are liberals, socialists are socialists. Now, you listen to Teresa Ghilarducci here again as Kirby Wilbur in Seattle tries to understand this. He says, “You’re gonna supplement this with this $600 annual payment that everybody with a 401(k) is gonna get.”

GHILARDUCCI: The government would guarantee 3% plus inflation.

WILBUR: Okay, 3%, okay, plus inflation.

GHILARDUCCI: Yes.

WILBUR: So the bonds would be adjusted. As I understand the $600 would be adjusted as well, right?

GHILARDUCCI: It would. It would.

WILBUR: Okay.

GHILARDUCCI: And what’s amazing about this is that it’s actually, um, doesn’t cost the government anybody. (sic) I’m just rearranging the tax breaks that are available now for 401(k)s and spreading — spreading the wealth.

RUSH: Spreading your wealth. But did you also notice the amazing thing is it doesn’t cost the government any money! It doesn’t cost the precious government any money! It’s gonna cost you money. Here’s the lure, and folks, you gotta understand this. Gosh, this so infuriates me. Imagine you’re just a little guppy swimming around in your aquarium and this woman throws in a little lure to try to feed you and get you hooked, your 401(k)’s tanked. She can wipe that out. Her plan is for the government to restore the value of your 401(k) before the crash hit. That’s the sweetener, that’s what’s supposed to suck you in, that’s what’s supposed to get you to support this. “Wow! Wowie! You mean my benevolent government that loves me is going to restore my 401(k) value? And then they’re going to invest it with bonds at 3% a year plus —” that’s how they want you to give it up. They are the ones that came up with this plan. The 401(k)s, SEP/Keoghs and so forth during the Reagan years. They don’t like it. They do not like you having control over the creation of your own wealth, folks.

If you want to understand what redistribution is, socialism, whatever you want to call it, it’s very simple. The Obamas of the world do not want you in control of your ability to amass wealth. They don’t want you to have control over that. They want you to cede your wealth to them for restoring your 401(k) to its August levels, its values, and then 600 bucks a year, yeah, 3%, adjusted for inflation. No growth. Zippo growth. Do you understand, 3% adjusted for inflation, zero growth. They’re promising you that your 401(k) will stay even with inflation, but that’s it. The arrogance, it doesn’t begin to describe it, Snerdley. Of course they’re arrogant. I just want to do this and I want to take this tax, and I want to do that, and here’s what I want to do, and it’s amazing, it doesn’t cost the government any money. Well, holy hell. It doesn’t cost the government any money. What are we supposed to do, get down and pray to Washington every day four times a day? It’s not Washington’s money in the first place, Ms. Ghilarducci.
END TRANSCRIPT bttt

Read the Background Material...

• WSJ: Eyeing Your Pension Are 401(k)s Safe From Congressional Democrats?
• U.S. News & World Report: Would Obama, Dems Kill 401(k) Plans?
• HotAir: Democrats to Kill 401(k)s for...Privatized Social Security?
• AP: Biden lashes out at Corporate Greed in Colo. Stop


52 posted on 05/04/2010 8:34:04 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Jim Wallis speaks for Christians the same way that Jesse Jackson speaks for all blacks.)
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To: ConjunctionJunction
The radical solution most favored by Big Labor is the seizure of private 401(k) plans for government disbursement

The government has over promised goodies in exchange for votes. Every election, if they want to win, they have to promise something else for free. No freebies - no voters.
The powers that be are losing control. They've run out of others peoples money. Their economic crash has caused unintended consequences, and the economy is spiraling down with no end in sight. They assumed the American patriots (voluntary tax slaves) would all band together, work harder, and spend more to save the country (and the democrat agenda) . They were wrong. Instead, the patriots rallied and said "no more."

The democrats (socialists/communists) are desperate. They're going to find ways to confiscate every penny they can from the now involentary tax slaves. Their followers want more, more , more, and the wanting has become unquenchable - but the slaves are rebelling.

53 posted on 05/04/2010 8:34:58 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Frantzie

My NYC son reports the following:

“... most of the people who voted for Obama up here, which btw is practically everyone I know, are very unhappy with the health bill and consequently stalwart democrats have been heard to say ‘I’m voting Republican next time.’ “


54 posted on 05/04/2010 8:35:19 AM PDT by rustbucket
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To: pgkdan; Eaker; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; ApesForEvolution; aragorn; archy; ...
If anyone touches my 401k, which represents a large portion of my life savings, I would be willing to take up arms against the government. This would be the act that puts me right over the edge!

CW2 Ping


55 posted on 05/04/2010 8:35:35 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: All

Here’s the email I sent out to my lists in...wait for it.....

2006:

Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:54:38 -0500
To: [email lists]
From: [Matchett-PI]
Subject: Neal Boortz: THE (SECRET) PLAN FOR AMERICA

BSR to pass on. The Demagogue Party views its base the way H. L. Mencken describes them. Boortz has their number. (See below) ~ [Matchett-PI]

“Nobody ever went broke under estimating the intelligence of the American people”. - H. L. Mencken

“The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.” - H. L. Mencken

“The urge to save humanity is nearly always a cover for the urge to rule.” - H. L. Mencken

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed - and hence clamorous to be led to safety - by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” - H. L. Mencken

THE DEMOCRATS’ (SECRET) PLAN FOR AMERICA
Neal Boortz ^ | Oct. 30, 2006 | Neal Boortz
http://boortz.com/more/demsecrets.html

The Democrats have begun their campaign to frighten voters before the fall elections. It’s nothing but a replay of past elections, the only difference being that they seem to be starting the scare tactics a bit early this year. I guess you can’t blame them. Nothing else has worked.

The tried to hand the Florida election problems on Bush. No go. Then it was the economy, and that didn’t work either. They gave a stab at the “Bush is stupid” routine, but Americans aren’t buying it. Enron looked worse for Clinton than it did for Republicans, so the Social Democrats had to give up on that one too.

So, it’s time to go back to Democratic roots. Try to scare the beejezus out of older voters. It’s worked in the past — so it will surely work this time.

The ploy is simple. Convince wrinkled citizens that the evil Republicans want to take away their Social Security. It’s an old trick, tried and true. The Democrats roll this one out every single election. This time the point men are Richard Gephardt and Terry McAuliffe. They’re both telling voters that the evil Republicans have a “secret” plan to reduce Social Security benefits as soon as they are reelected.

So .. now that the Democrats have opened this whole “secret plan” idea – what about the secret plans of the Democratic Socialists? Just what legislative agenda does the Democrat Party plan to pursue if and when they gain control of the Senate, the House and the presidency? Well, your Talkmaster has been watching these socialists for years, and taking notes. Here are just some of the goodies the Social Democrat Party has in store for the people of America.

Remove a majority of voters from responsibility for income taxes This is the biggie – and they’ve made no attempt to hide their goals here. The Democrats have been working on this plan for decades -— with no small amount of help from the cowardly Republicans. The idea is simple. Using “refundable” tax credits and deductions and such ideas as the fraudulent Earned Income Tax Credit the Democrats are working to shift the entire burden for the payment of federal income taxes onto a minority of US taxpayers. Right now the top 50 percent of taxpayers pay almost 96 percent of the taxes. The Democrats are close to their goal. When the majority of voters have no federal income tax liability it will be almost impossible to pass any meaningful tax cuts – and further tax increases will be a piece of cake, especially if the taxes only affect those to be considered to be rich. Through this ploy the Democrats plan to create a defeat-proof socialist congress.

Shift Social Security and Medicare Taxes to the “Rich”

Payroll taxes, as you know, are basically Social Security and Medicare taxes. The Democrats have almost achieved their goal of shielding the so-called “poor” from any income tax liability at all. But -— the poor saps still have to pay Social Security and Medicare taxes. Democrats conveniently ignore the fact that these same people will get full Social Security and Medicare benefits when they reach the magic age ... and those benefits must never be touched! It’s OK, though, to excuse these people from the responsibility of actually having to pay the premiums for these insurance and retirement benefits. So ..... the next element of the Democrats’ Secret Plan! The elimination of payroll taxes for the poor!

This is a plan that was put forth by Democrat Robert Reich on the Cutie-Pie and Holmes show on Fox News Channel on July 31, 2002. The idea is to, as Reich puts it, “lift the tax burden off the poor” by eliminating payroll taxes on the first $15,000 of income. Here’s how you do it. The Democrats pass a law which says that nobody has to pay any payroll taxes on the first $15,000 of their income. Bingo — the poor now have a completely free ride! They are now life-long, dedicated Democratic voters. But wait! Isn’t that going to cost the government money? Are you kidding? Of course it’s not! It’s not going to cost the government money because they’re simply going to raise the salary cap for Social Security taxes by enough to cover the lost revenues! Right now the cap is around $88,000 on Social Security taxes. To cover the shortfall Reich says they will just raise the salary cap by $15,000 ... to $103,000 a hear. Reich forgets, though, that there is no cap on Medicare taxes, so raising the cap by $15,000 would not recover the Medicare taxes lost by excluding the first $15,000 in income. In reality the Democrats would have to raise the salary cap by about $19,000. They would just round it off to $20,000.

So, there you go. Shifting the burden for the cost of Social Security and Medicare for low income earners onto high income earners. The Democratic way.

Massive increase in Social Security taxes As we’ve said, Social Security is a mainstay when it comes to Democrat vote-buying. Social Security was, is and always will be nothing more than a giant income redistribution scheme designed to create dependency on government and loyalty to the program’s protectors in congress. The more money you pour into Social Security benefits, the more the wizened class loves you, depends on you and will be dedicated to keeping you in office. The Democrats need massive new funding sources to pay expanded Social Security benefits -— but they must get that money without raising Social Security taxes on the middle and lower income groups. The solution? The Democrats have a “secret plan” to expand the wage base for Social Security taxes. Right now you only pay these taxes on the first $88,000 or so of income. Give the Democrats the power and watch that wage base jump to $100,000, $200,000 and beyond. The eventual Democrat Party goal is to have people pay Social Security taxes on every penny they earn ... no matter how much that is. There will no comparable increase in benefits for the high income earners. The extra money will be used to keep the Democratic middle and low-income constituency happy.

End the home mortgage interest deduction

Democrats have been after this income tax deduction for decades. They call it a “subsidy.” Now the more intelligent among us will clearly understand that allowing someone to keep more of the money that they earn can hardly be called a “subsidy.” But we’re talking about the more intelligent among us. These people aren’t likely to be voting for Democrats anyway!

As soon as the Democrats manage to gain control of the federal government they will move to eliminate this “subsidy for the rich.” They know that there will be little adverse political fallout. After all — the mortgage interest deduction is only valuable to people who actually pay income taxes AND who itemize their deductions. Democrats have already succeeded in removing most of their core constituency from the income tax rolls -— so what is there to lose?

When the Democrats ride into power you had better be prepared to kiss that mortgage interest deduction — and a lot more of your money — a fond farewell.

Socialized Medicine

They already tried this with Hillary Care. It failed. Democrats aren’t discouraged by failure. They just try and try again until they finally get you to swallow the poison pill. There are two basic reasons the Democrats are working so hard for complete government control of this huge segment of our economy. One, of course, is power. Health care comprises about 15% of our national economy. If the government can seize control of this large a segment of our economy a giant step toward a socialist economy will have been achieved. The second reason is control. Think about it. If you control a person’s access to healthcare ... you effectively control that person.

Right now the Democrats have had to put their plans for socialized medicine on hold. Those pesky Republicans in the House and the White House are making things tough. Democrats have to be satisfied with just sitting up there in the Beltway blocking any efforts to introduce competition into the medical marketplace.

Democrats live in quaking fear of free market competition. This was one of the reasons they worked so hard to defeat Bush’s economic stimulus plan. There was a provision in that plan that would allow laid-off workers to go out into the marketplace to find health insurance. They would then be allowed a tax credit to cover the cost of that health insurance premium. Democrats wanted federal funds to be paid to employers to encourage employers to extend health insurance benefits to laid-off workers. Democrats knew that if private individuals ventured into the free marketplace to find health insurance they might just find that free market competition could deliver a superior insurance product at a reduced price.

Tax your pension funds

This idea first received serious consideration in the early Clintonista years. As soon as the Republicans took control of the Congress the idea disappeared. Right now it’s being “secretly” incubated by Democrats to be hatched when they regain control. The idea is simple. There are trillions of dollars out there in various private pension and 401K plans. All of these trillions of dollars are earning interest for (gasp!) private investors and individuals and not for the government! To make matters worse – most of these private pension and 401K plans are owned by the evil, hated upper income earners.

The “secret” plan? A one-time 15% tax on the outstanding balance of all private pension and 401K retirement plans. This money would be paid into the general fund of the federal government and used to fund various social programs for low and middle-income earners.

Is this a dangerous plan for Democrats? Not really. The plan would take money chiefly from those who earn enough money to actually pay income taxes and contribute to pension plans. These people do not make up the core of Democratic voters.

Tax your pension contributions also

After the Democrats levy their 15% tax on the outstanding balance of all pension and 401K plans, they intend to follow up with a tax on all future contributions to these plans. The theory is that “rich” people shouldn’t be allowed to contribute that money to these plans tax free when “poor” people don’t have that opportunity.

The Magic of Imputed Income

Imputed? What does “imputed” mean?

One definition is to “credit.” So, by imputed income, we mean that you are credited with income you didn’t necessarily earn.

The goal is clear. Democrats want to milk the high-achievers for as much money as they possibly can. There are really only two ways Democrats can get more income tax out of you. One way is to raise the tax rates. At some point this is going to prove to be politically risky. So, how else can they bleed you for more? Even Democrats who have been to government schools can do simple math. They know they can get more money out of you if that line on your income tax return that reads “taxable income” can be increased. Forty percent of $120,000 is more than 40% of $90,000. All you have to do is impute – credit – more income to the poor taxpaying high-achiever.

So -— here is the idea that the Clinton Administration was tossing around prior to the voter revolution of 1994. They were going to impute – credit – extra income to people who own their own homes. This was going to be done for two reasons. First, to push more people into the higher income brackets where Clinton tax increases could reach them. Second, to increase the amount of taxes actually collected from these people. Here’s how Clinton’s imputed income scheme was going to work:

Let’s say you own a home worth $250,000. Your payments on that home are about $2,000 a month. The government uses census data (there is a reason they ask all of those extra questions) to figure out what a $250,000 home in your neighborhood would rent for. Let’s say it would rent for $3000 a month. This means that you could rent your home for $1000 a month more than your payments. But you’re not renting your home, you’re living in it. You must know that this just isn’t fair to people who have to rent homes. They don’t get the tax deductions you get. They don’t own their own homes because, unlike you, they haven’t, as Dickie Gephardt likes to phrase it, “won life’s lottery.”

Well .. since you’re so rich and since you own your own home, the Democrats would really like to get a little more money from you, to spend on those poor renters and people who aren’t as “fortunate” as you are. This would all be in exchange of their votes, of course.

So ... here is this element of the Democrats’ secret plan for you and your bank account. When you fill out your tax return you will have to consult certain tables and government data to determine what a home like yours would rent for in your neighborhood. Using the example above, your home would rent for $3000. You’re paying $2000 a month to your mortgage company. You will be instructed to take the difference ($1000 a month) and multiply it by 12. This gives you $12,000. That’s your imputed income. Add that to your other earnings to come up with your taxable income. That adds up to more than $4,500 in additional income taxes if you’re in the top tax bracket. Hey, it’s only fair ... you being rich and all.

Don’t gripe. This is all for those needed government programs for the “less fortunate.”

By the way -— you should know that there is an imputed income bill in the Congress. It’s about child support, not home mortgages. If you’re a deadbeat dad who owes back child support you would, under this law, have to add the amount of your arrearage to your taxable income and pay taxes on it. Fact is, you’ve already paid taxes on this income once. The bill would just punish you for not forking it over to the ex-wife by making you pay tax on it a second time. Today, child support. Tomorrow, that money you could be making if you would only rent your home instead of live in it.

Economically Targeted Investments — controlling your pension fund investments.

Here we are, right back at your pension funds and 401K funds again. Again -— there is so much money in these funds, trillions of dollars, that the Democrats just can’t leave them alone. All of this money just sitting there and not one penny of it is being used to buy votes for Democrats. So -— here comes the idea of Economically Targeted Investments. “ETIs” the Democrats call them, and they’re a huge part of the Democrat “secret” agenda. All they need is control in Washington.

Here’s the deal. The government grants various tax breaks to these retirement plans. As you know, or as you should know, tax breaks are usually granted to force some individual or corporation to act and behave in some manner pleasing to government. The Democrats plan to change the rules on pension and 401K accounts. Instead of just investing these funds in stocks and bonds, fund managers will be required by the government to invest these funds in certain investments dictated by government — by Democrats. In this way the governments can fund some of their spending schemes, but without using government funds. The Democrats will simply pass laws requiring fund managers to invest in corporations building low income housing; or companies who are hiring workers off welfare roles. Other “allowed” investments will be in such things as environmental protection, waste recycling and other causes popular with the left. In short order the Democrats will have rules in place which state that these pension funds cannot be invested in companies that are “unfriendly” to unions. To a Democrat ... any company with a non-union workforce is “unfriendly” to unions. Corporations who have affirmative action programs will get the nod. Companies who hire and promote on merit will not.

All of this will mean that the Democrats can claim credit for spending on some of their favorite programs without going to the taxpayers. They can just, in effect, use pension money. The end result, of course, is lower returns on pension fund investments — and lower pension benefits to retirees. That doesn’t bother the Democrats, though. The less money you have to retire on the more dependent on government you will be.

Force employers to pay for “family leave.”

Right now the Family Leave Act requires employers to give employees about 12 weeks of unpaid “family leave” to take care of certain family events and emergencies, such as having a baby, illness, death or some other situation. The key here is that the family leave is unpaid. The Democrats want employers to continue to pay the employees while they take their extended vacation. The Democrats “secret” plan is to begin with a law requiring payment of about one-half of the employee’s salary. This will give Democratic candidates the opportunity to campaign in future years on the basis of increasing the percentage paid to those on family leave. Paying people for not working -— a Democrat staple.

Seizure of property of those who flee Democratic tyranny As Democrats work diligently for more control over our economy and increase levels of income redistribution many high-achieving Americans are making plans to run. The greater the confiscation of wealth becomes the more people start looking for other countries in which to base their businesses. Democrats have a “secret plan” to impose confiscatory taxes on any Americans who try to move their wealth or their business interests out of this country.

Government paid childcare for majority of voters

The absolute last thing a Democrat would ever do would be to suggest to anyone that they shouldn’t have a baby they can’t afford to raise. Democrats know that children are the absolute more important thing in the lives of millions of Americans. They have been working for decades to impose ever more expensive rules and regulations on private child care agencies. They have also been working to raise taxes to the point that it is difficult beyond reason to raise a child on the income of one working parent. Thus ... the necessity of child care. If the government steps in and provides the funds for that child care then, to that extent, the parents become just that much more dependent on government ... and Democrats.

Government control of all childhood education (indoctrination) Democrats are the party of big government. Democrats are more than thrilled with the increased propensity of many Americans to look to government for the solution to virtually all problems they face in their daily lives. Democrats know that to teach people that they can expect the government to be there to solve all of their problems you have to start with the children. Catholic schools can be expected to teach their students that Catholicism is good. Jewish private schools are going to sing the praises of Judaism. Christian schools will teach the children that Jesus is really cool. Government schools? Government schools will promote what? Government! Thus, Democrats see a clear need to keep as many children in government education programs as possible. The “secret” plan? Continue to work against any ideas that would make it easier for parents to remove their children from government schools. This means working against such ideas as vouchers or tax credits to help parents afford the cost of private schools. They will also work to add increased regulations to parents who make the decision to home school their children.

Government imposed limits on executive income

This one is really going to have to wait until Democrats have a solid control of the federal machine. The Social Democrat party has plans to institute limits on executive compensation. The idea is to impose confiscatory corporate income taxes on companies who pay their top executives more than X-times the compensation paid to the lowest-paid employees.

Repealing the Second Amendment

Haven’t you ever thought it a bit odd that leftists and Democrats are generally opposed to the concept of the private ownership of firearms, while conservatives and libertarians favor the idea? Well, there’s a reason. Those who value and celebrate the worth of the individual and of individual freedom generally believe that the individual should be permitted to own and bear arms. Those who put the power of government over and above the power of the individual would just as soon see the individual unarmed. Armed individuals are, of course, a threat to tyranny.

Destroy talk radio

Democrats aren’t fond of talk radio. They know that Rush Limbaugh played a huge role in the voter revolution of 1994. Leftists realize that almost all successful talk radio shows are hosted by people who do not share their political views. They will try to neutralize talk radio through regulation. Since Democrats love the “fair” word so much, they’ll try to resurrect something called the “Fairness Doctrine.” How would this law work? Well, for example, a talk show host would not be allowed to voice opposition to a particular Democrat goal without finding some Democrat to go on the air to defend that goal. Talk radio soared in listenership and popularity following the death of the Fairness Doctrine. Democrats know that talk radio can once again be pushed into the radio background with new regulations that stifle conservative and libertarian voices. Give them the power — and it’s time for me to retire. You should be aware that at a recent meeting of the Democratic Party of Oregon a resolution was adopted to use the power of government and the “fairness doctrine” to reign in those horrible right wing talk show hosts.

Wait! There’s more

The above list is by no means complete. Keep you eye on this page as we work to expose even more of the “secret plans” of America’s socialist party, the Democrats.


56 posted on 05/04/2010 8:37:10 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Jim Wallis speaks for Christians the same way that Jesse Jackson speaks for all blacks.)
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To: pgkdan
If anyone touches my 401k, which represents a large portion of my life savings, I would be willing to take up arms against the government.

Ya better get ready...

GOVERNMENT UNIONS

57 posted on 05/04/2010 8:38:07 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Izzy Dunne

Beware of them using such a rousing issue to distract from slipping thru other lesser (but still outrageous) bills.

Amid the hoopla about health care, the Feds took over the student loan industry. Few noticed.


58 posted on 05/04/2010 8:41:35 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: Travis McGee
I've said something for quite some time now that's is well within the realm of being a possibility. This is that everybody has a limit at which point they cease using the system and resort to force and violence. Everybody has a point in their minds which they have calculated to be that point at which there's nothing more to be lost and therefore they're willing to go outside of established systems of change and resolution.

Unfortunately, what I'm talking about above is the evolution of an element of warfare; specifically the transition from cold to hot.

But my point is that everybody has a point at which they go over that edge.
59 posted on 05/04/2010 8:45:46 AM PDT by hiredhand
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To: pgkdan

Yeah, but I wonder if Obama and his gang of thugs calculate that there would be less of a voter backlash than from government seizure of IRAs. Either way, it’s outrageous.


60 posted on 05/04/2010 8:50:35 AM PDT by dr_who
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