Posted on 05/30/2010 5:36:00 PM PDT by Jim W N
With Europe on the verge of economic collapse, what about all those popular predictions that the European Union would become the world's political powerhouse, giving rise to the endtimes prophecies of a world dictator known to Bible students as the Antichrist? Joel Richardson, author of a bestselling book on Bible prophecy, says atheists will have a field day mocking Christians for the incorrect interpretations about the last days. When ""The Islamic Antichrist" was released last fall, it immediately zoomed to the top of the religious charts at Amazon and the No. 1 spot among all books at Scribd – an online e-booker retailer. Yet Richardson, a student of Islam and the Middle east, found few churches in America welcoming him as a guest speaker. He was not invited to address many prophecy conferences. He found himself as a "political incorrect" outsider in most evangelical circles. His book makes the case that the biblical Antichrist is one and the same as the Quran's Muslim Mahdi. "The Bible abounds with proofs that the Antichrist's empire will consist only of nations that are, today, Islamic," says Richardson. "Despite the numerous prevailing arguments for the emergence of a revived European Roman empire as the Antichrist's power base, the specific nations the Bible identifies as comprising his empire are today all Muslim."
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The "hereafter" is exactly what is being shown. It's what we'll see after we die - or perhaps better to say - it's a rendition in human language of the ineffable things that we will see when the veil of time is lifted - when we no longer "see through a glass darkly" as St. Paul put it.
Revelation shows us eternal things that have always existed, exist now, and shall exist forevermore, because they exist out of time on the spiritual plane. It's not a book of historical prophecy, at least not mainly, in my very humble opinion. And from what I've read that's basically been Holy Tradition's understanding Revelation. It's about the spiritual realities underlying in the "hereafter" the events in the life of Christ, especially it's about the Eucharist.
But it's not a sort of biblical "future history of the world." Trying to bend its eternal message to the events of the day strikes me as a fundamental error.
Anything about a Kenyan antichrist ?
"[The Holy Spirit] will show you things to come [AND] will glorify me (Jesus)." John 16:13. “Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter.” Revelation 1:19
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"[The Holy Spirit] will show you things to come [AND] will glorify me (Jesus)." John 16:13.
Actually in Greek, anti doesn't mean opposite or against, it means in place of.
How long have you been studying prophecy? LOL Would you like one of us to recommend some books or at least read your Bible. You are not even in the ball park on this.
The “man of sin” doesn’t particularly describe one man. More likely in view of the scriptures in Revelation, it is describing the character and nature of those false prophets and antichrist spirits operating through those in authority.
No way can any of us understand the Scriptures except through the light given by the Holy Spirit. We all are still searching for more understanding. So everyone here is just giving the thoughts each have through their own personal study of the Bible. And from my own reading of the various end-time scriptures, the scriptures do not support the “one man” doctrine.
Precisely so. and there are two main types: Government "in place of" Christ (the beast), and religion "in place of" Christ (the whore).
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i have no problem believing a muslim leader of one of the most powerful nations is the antichrist.
and yes, i believe that nation to be America.. we’ve already got the muslim leader (lucky us...)
Assyria covered an area that includes much of modern Iraq and Syria. Missler currently finds the views of Walid Shoebat persuasive. Shoebat is a one time Islamic terrorist, now a Christian apologist. One of Shoebat’s views is that ‘the Antichrist’ fits the profile of the Mahdi.
Shoebat stresses something that Americans overlook. The Roman Empire didn’t cease to exist when Rome fell in the late 300s. It continued on for another 1,000 years centered on Constantinople, the new imperial capital established by emperor Constantine in 330. Since Americans refer to the eastern Roman Empire as the Byzantine Empire we often miss the connection. The eastern Empire was composed of states that are now mostly Muslim. It’s Shoebat’s view that a leader will rise out of the old Roman Empire, but it will be from the eastern empire and he will be Muslim.
[Fish Hawk:] How long have you been studying prophecy? LOL Would you like one of us to recommend some books or at least read your Bible. You are not even in the ball park on this.
To the contrary, cedar is right on the money. And while I would agree in large part with dispensationalist theory, It is not precisely correct. The Bible is correct, and should be your guide.
While I agree with your statement(s) peripherally, The eventuality results in an identifiable world leader, and an identifiable prophet who serves to promote the whore of a world church. Whether these two are the very same is yet to be revealed, but the two components will be made into identifiable form.
That form will be so completely apparent that to serve it (them) is to choose to be against Christ. But it is true that satan's "government" and "church" have been around already for a very long time, and are here, present upon the earth, even now.
I, too, am quite compelled by Shoebat's testimony. He was also the first in my recollection to equate the term "Islam" with the "number of a man" like rawcatslyentist infers in the post (#34) following yours.
But unless Islam can conquer the whole world, which I do not think is going to happen, there is another shoe to drop.
I grew up under the shadow "The Bomb," during a time when the "smart" people were all trying to cut private deals with the "inevitable" master of the world, Soviet-style communism. While our hidden masters were busy selling us out on the international scene, they were destroying our future by destroying the minds and souls of our children. Islam was a third-world problem.
R J Rushdoony's pioneering ministry (he coined the term "secular humanism") made clear the religious nature of all education -- and, 40 years ago, made clear the heinous sin of Christian parents choosing to raise their children in an anti-Christian religion.
Today, soviet communism is gone. And we are so stupid that we continue handing our kids over to the humanists, so that they can be injection molded into docile factory hands and cannon fodder for our hidden masters. And, just to keep us distracted, Islam has suddenly become a major issue.
Well, Islam is an issue, since it binds the souls of a billion of our neighbors. However, since Jesus is Lord of Lords and King of Kings, secular humanism is the real elephant in the living room.
Those who support public education have repudiated the future, and are gullible simps who masturbate with apocalyptic fantasies. Those who provide a Christian education for their children invest in the future, and expect more from God than the apocalyptic losers would dream possible.
With that in mind and heart, I think your ideas here are interesting. I think this guy’s going to have a lot of help in his efforts. However, I think the weight of scripture points to the antichrist as a person. A sampling:
Daniel 11:21 (“a vile person”) , Daniel 11:32 (“such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt with flatteries”), Daniel 11: 36 (“And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvelous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done"), and all the personal pronouns “he” throughout Daniel 11:21 through 11:45. II Thessalonians 2:3-5 ("that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.") Revelation 19:20 (“the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet...[and] both were cast alive into the lake of fire”).
It seems pretty clear from these passages that were looking at a distinct person.
Good stuff. Thanks for the input. By the way, do you have a link to Missler’s daily radio Bible studies which I’ve lost track of?
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