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New government entity to take control over military and civilian networks
Tech 1984 ^ | 5/31/10 | Tech 1984

Posted on 06/07/2010 9:29:58 PM PDT by oc-flyfish

This is pretty scary stuff. The Federal government is ready to seize control of private company networks in order to "protect" us in the event of a hacker attack.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: civilliberties; communication; constitution; cybercom; emergencyprep; hugoland; socialistblitzkrieg
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To: Thidwick
This reminds me that I could not get onto FR the other day....

I just thought I had been banned.

41 posted on 06/07/2010 11:18:14 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: oc-flyfish

I think you can find information on this in the original PATRIOT Act legislation.


42 posted on 06/07/2010 11:20:38 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"There's a Yahoo Group for that -- FreeRepublic2."

Yup! I finally remembered I was a member of that group and went to see what the problem was. We're okay there, as long as Yahoo don't dream up some phoney excuse to take the groups off line for 'maintenance' of some kind.

43 posted on 06/07/2010 11:30:13 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: oc-flyfish
No wonder Rahm and Biden were running around today with squirt guns like there's no serious problems facing the nation.

From now on, from their point of view, there will be no more problems.

44 posted on 06/07/2010 11:48:27 PM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenerio at a time.)
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To: autumnraine
Time to reconfigure the UUCP "UUMap" project with dialup modems to pass messages around. It worked pretty well prior to the general availability of the internet. My old Xenix machine from 1983 was part of that network. We're missing the big nodes like ihnp4 and seismo that acted a major hubs. The ihnp4 was owned by AT&T. The seismo machine was a USGS box. Rick Adams moved along from seismo to build the first UUNET systems in Falls Church, VA. Some of us "old farts" still remember how to build those networks.
45 posted on 06/07/2010 11:56:21 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: oc-flyfish

Bump to look at later...


46 posted on 06/07/2010 11:59:45 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: Kimberly GG
There’s got to be a way to remain organized and in touch.

Oh yes. I'd look at the places where repression has been the norm, but has now sort of flipped roles. For example, in the old soviet union, I saw at least a couple solutions for full forums that couldn't be read by outsiders - not the KGB, not hackers. These were typically run by the virus writing community.

47 posted on 06/08/2010 12:05:20 AM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: autumnraine
There are limits to what you can put over the air as a ham. It is also a government licensed service. Part of that arrangement allows the government to essentially conscript the operator and his equipment in the service of the government under an "emergency". Most of my gear is still in boxes after moving from San Diego to Idaho. It would take time to pull it out and make sure it is operable. The electrolytic caps can dry out and become non-functional. They sometimes explode when exposed to current after a long time of non-use.

When I was last regularly active, the packet revolution had just arrived (1985). I enjoyed TCP/IP over ham radio in those days. The rise of the internet made the ham radio based comms just a silly toy. Can you imagine having to wait 3 weeks to move 1 megabyte of data over a very lossy radio path? The modem data rate was only 1200 bps with lots of overhead to create the synchronous packets that carried the AX.25 UI frames that wrapped the IP datagrams.

48 posted on 06/08/2010 12:05:38 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Eastbound

...you are supposed to use the FR decoder ring as soon as FR goes down...


49 posted on 06/08/2010 12:07:15 AM PDT by spokeshave (From The One to zero in just 16 months – the myth has ended.)
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To: Thidwick
Ha! I was thinking 2 steps back such as ‘phone trees’ and printing presses.

My LDS stake in San Diego had ham radio ops, but also had an effective "phone tree" and "on the ground" connectivity via foot or bicycle. We could account for 5,000 people in the space of 30 minutes without phone or radio.

50 posted on 06/08/2010 12:08:33 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: TruthConquers

“Cloud computing” is not a solution to your problem, it is the problem (you lose the privacy and possibly access, instead of gaining them) and it’s expensive proposition, to boot, to store / backup your data somewhere else.

Cloud is a “back to the future” marketing, not technological concept.

You can encode / decode email and other data, for storage or transport, with private or public encryption methods, and/or split data store / transfer on multiple computers through various P2P (legal uses) algorithms.


51 posted on 06/08/2010 12:29:13 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: oc-flyfish

I guess this is their backup position or maybe supplemental method versus Net Neutrality.

The Feds can stop the flow of internet information, they can interfere with telecommunications and they can jam radio broadcasts. Whether they could do something to block hams radio users in the entire country I don’t know but they could certainly do it to individual locations. So what’s left, carrier pigeons?

BTW, anybody have any personal experience with or knowledge of the company CYVEILLANCE out of Arlington? Lot’s of government contract work and some disturbing matches if you do a search.


52 posted on 06/08/2010 12:39:10 AM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: Candor7

Get out while you can. That’s all I have to say. :)


53 posted on 06/08/2010 12:39:38 AM PDT by mojitojoe (banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: autumnraine; All

Sleep well, I don’t see much of a problem here. Something like this was long overdue to be consolidated from several agencies (mostly NSA) into one strat-group umbrella, in light of multiple well known attempted cyber-attacks from China, Korea, Russia, Baltic Republics, Caribbeans etc.

It doesn’t create any new capabilities, just organizes and coordinates them under one umbrella, with people who already worked on this and understand the nature and can possibly prevent enemy cyber-attacks, or help coordinate tracking of terrorist sites.

It doesn’t employ any “new” technology, or any “new” powers, only makes it more transparent, somewhat similar to or in line with FISA Court. If anything, it would be more difficult to abuse with impunity, because multiple agencies’ Op-Centers would go under more central command. Think of it as cyber-DHS.


54 posted on 06/08/2010 12:46:10 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: mojitojoe

The door is there.


55 posted on 06/08/2010 1:09:53 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is a fascist... ...He meets every diagnostic of history)
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To: rabscuttle385

Adding this to FREE SPEECH TRENCHES [Free Republic link list research]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2518240/posts


56 posted on 06/08/2010 1:38:45 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Kagan ENDED Constitutional Law in Harvard: freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2523089/posts)
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To: Candor7

I am working on telepathy.,,


57 posted on 06/08/2010 1:51:44 AM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: oc-flyfish

I’m a ham and yes, that could be used. My thought is; if the internet is down or blocked to us it IS a legitimate emergency. FCC rules allow almost unlimited usage in an emergency. If we are deprived of FR and other venues of free speech then the game is on anyway.


58 posted on 06/08/2010 2:23:14 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (Where is the Black Regiment?)
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To: Eastbound

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59 posted on 06/08/2010 2:42:48 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: Thidwick

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freerepublic2/


60 posted on 06/08/2010 3:51:36 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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