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Ancient beer may serve as future model
www.wthitv.com ^ | 2-8-11 | MATTI HUUHTANEN

Posted on 02/10/2011 5:39:47 AM PST by Red Badger

HELSINKI - Finnish scientists are analyzing a golden, cloudy beverage found in a 19th century shipwreck at the bottom of the Baltic Sea, hoping new beers can be modeled on an ancient brew.

The VTT Technical Research Center of Finland said Tuesday that through chemical analysis it aims to determine the ingredients and possibly the recipe used in brewing what it called "one of the world's oldest preserved beers."

VTT scientist Arvi Vilpola said he had "the honorable task" of being the one on the research team to sample the brew.

"It was a little sour and you could taste the saltiness of it slightly," Vilpola said.

Divers stumbled across the five beer bottles while salvaging champagne from the wreck near Finland's Aland Islands last July. The schooner is believed to be from the early 19th century.

Researchers are keen to find out what kind of yeast was used because "the role of yeast in beer brewing was not yet fully understood in the early 1800s," said VTT spokeswoman Annika Wilhelmson.

Also, scientists are unsure whether yeast can survive two centuries in the cold seabed at a depth of 160 feet (50 meters).

"We have seen yeast cells in it under the microscope ... but we don't know whether they are live yeast cells. It's like digging up a graveyard and hoping that you'll find somebody there," said John Londesborough, a scientist from the research team. "We've found some bodies in pretty good condition."

The wreck and its finds belong to the semiautonomous islands, situated between Finland and Sweden, which hopes to be able to develop a new beer if scientists are successful.

"It would good to get the ingredients so that breweries could re-brew a new product from it," said Rainer Jusslin, a member of the provincial Aland government.

Divers recovered 168 bottles of champagne from the wreck — of the brands Veuve Clicquot and the now defunct Juglar.

At a tasting in November, Veuve Clicquot confirmed that experts "were able to identify with absolute certainty" that at least three of the recovered bottles were Veuve Clicquot.

Aland officials said the champagne will be sold at an auction where it could fetch more than $70,000 apiece.

The VVT team said it expects to publish its findings in May.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Germany; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agriculture; beer; beerlist; beerping; finland; godsgravesglyphs; grapes; homebrew; vtt; winemaking; zymurgy
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A bottle of beer that was retrieved from a shipwreck in the Åland archipelago in the summer of 2010, is photographed at the VTT Technical Research Centre of Finland in Espoo, Finland, Tuesday

1 posted on 02/10/2011 5:39:51 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Who has a beer or wine ping list?...............


2 posted on 02/10/2011 5:41:37 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: Red Badger

Whatever the method of brewing this beer, it has got to be better than the equine urine otherwise called Bud Light.


3 posted on 02/10/2011 5:42:17 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Red Badger

How do you get a job as a beer-taster?


4 posted on 02/10/2011 5:42:46 AM PST by Silentgypsy
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To: Red Badger

just make sure this is ‘before drinking’ beer, rather than ‘after drinking’ beer... they both look the same y’know...


5 posted on 02/10/2011 5:43:57 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: camle

Well, they did say it was “sour” and “salty”..................


6 posted on 02/10/2011 5:47:46 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

and it lasted nearly 200 years!..............


7 posted on 02/10/2011 5:48:48 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: Silentgypsy

You have to be a Baptist.............


8 posted on 02/10/2011 5:49:36 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: Silentgypsy

in this case, phd in biochemistry apparently.


9 posted on 02/10/2011 5:51:53 AM PST by heiss
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To: Perdogg; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; Dengar01

If you found a 19th century bottle of anything, would you take a sip?


10 posted on 02/10/2011 5:51:55 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Red Badger

I want one of the champagnes. That’s from the time the widow (veuve) Clicquot was still around pioneering the techniques, taste and business of champagne.


11 posted on 02/10/2011 5:53:23 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: HiTech RedNeck

12 posted on 02/10/2011 5:55:53 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Red Badger

Vilpola said, “It tasted skunky, the “born on” date was 1808.”


13 posted on 02/10/2011 5:56:09 AM PST by calico_thompson
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To: antiRepublicrat

Got a spare 70G’s?................


14 posted on 02/10/2011 5:56:29 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: Red Badger

Try knews_hound for home brewers.


15 posted on 02/10/2011 5:56:38 AM PST by Silentgypsy
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To: knews_hound

ping!........


16 posted on 02/10/2011 6:05:44 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: Red Badger

I suspect that one could achieve the same effect by sampling open beers the morning after a frat party.


17 posted on 02/10/2011 6:05:44 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

These have been sealed with cork and wax and been at the bottom of the cold Baltic sea for 200 years.................


18 posted on 02/10/2011 6:07:15 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Bud Light is an ADS (Alcohol Delivery System), NOT a beer.


19 posted on 02/10/2011 6:07:35 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Red Badger

I was thinking that the fact that there were only 5 bottles left from a whole ship load might have something to do with the sinking.


20 posted on 02/10/2011 6:09:01 AM PST by tbpiper
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