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Is This What The Climate-Change Debate Has Come To? (Moonbat alert!)
The New Republic ^ | February 10, 2011 | Bradford Plumer

Posted on 02/14/2011 7:09:44 PM PST by neverdem

Congressional Republicans choose to just ignore science and attack the EPA.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agw; climatechange; globalwarming
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To: kcvl

He looks queer..............just sayin’.


21 posted on 02/14/2011 8:05:53 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country. The thing is, Sarah loves mine.)
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To: neverdem
The Warmers revealed themselves as dupes & scammers when they changed their pitch from “global warming” to “climate change”.

The phrase “climate change” implies that they don't know what the climate will do. They just don't want it to change. That's fine for Californians, but Canadians & Siberians might prefer a little warmer climate.

22 posted on 02/14/2011 8:06:45 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Mr. Bradford, are there any set of events or conditions that could disprove global-warming/climate-change?

Or do all events and conditions prove it?

You will never be able to persuade guys like Mr. Plumer that they are wrong. His article is for children or the childlike mind. You just have to know he writes for The New Republic. They get just about everything wrong all the time. You cannot reason with these types of people. I know a few of them. They are the types who have never tuned up an automobile or changed a set of spark plugs. They are the types who couldn't bake a cake or unclog a drain. And yet they think they understand the climate issue and that they should be in charge of running the world. Heck guys like Plumer probably couldn't pass a high school science test. Plumer just doesn't understand that science doesn't proceed on consensus. It doesn't work that way but this is too much for this clown. He says nothing of relevance in his article. We've head all this nonsense before and we can retort it. But he will insist the argument is over. His are the tactics of Goebbels.
23 posted on 02/14/2011 8:09:34 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: Brytani

If all the people watching the space shuttle take of took a deep breath and blew real hard, would Mr. Plumer agree they were contributing to the take off?


24 posted on 02/14/2011 8:10:04 PM PST by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: truthguy
"His article is for children or the childlike mind."

...and his strategy is proving successful. The environuts are brainwashing millions upon millions of young people to believe this rubbish and treat it with reverent religiosity.

Their control of our schools is giving them control of our culture.

25 posted on 02/14/2011 8:16:57 PM PST by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: neverdem

“And, within the Republican Party, the belief that global warming is a made-up non-problem has become thoroughly ingrained—so much so that it’s no longer even worth justifying or debating.”

Funny. That’s exactly what the left has been trying to accomplish the other way. Cut off debate or discussion. But it’s a contemptible act if someone other than them does it.


26 posted on 02/14/2011 8:31:55 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Joe the Plumber says to Bradford Plumer, “take this plunger and shove it”.

The New Republic has been full of leftist crap for years, esp. since Michael Kinsley was its editor.

It needs a good journalistic enema, a big one.


27 posted on 02/14/2011 8:32:54 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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28 posted on 02/14/2011 8:36:59 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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There is some dispute, as you obviously well know, about how much human generated greenhouse gases affect the environment, so I'll leave that to others.

But even if one were to accept that human generated greenhouse gases will contribute to global warning, the question still remains what our best response should be. Economist Bjorn Lomborg discusses how top economists from around the world met for a conference discussing various world problems, what responses we could make and then prioritized things to see where we would get the most bang for the buck. With respect to climate change, they used the numbers given by the mainstream climatologists. Interestingly, reducing greenhouse gases came in last place as to the best ways to spend the money world governments are likely to allocate. He gives a lot more detail in this short talk you can watch online: http://www.ted.com/talks/bjorn_lomborg_sets_global_priorities.html

Another issue is that the earth's weather has changed significantly over time even before man ever came on the picture, and there is no reason to think that variability would not continue regardless of what steps man takes to minimize his impact upon the weather. For instance a number of scientists are worrying that a much bigger factor in our weather could be setting us up for yet another catastrophic shift in our weather quite independent of global warming. Here's one such story that discusses some of what other publications and the scientists they've been interviewing & quoting have been writing about this phenomenon: Magnetic Polar Shifts Causing Massive Global Superstorms

Then too, we shouldn't ignore the hypothesis of the Wall Street Journal that we're better off maintaining a healthy economy with the resources to minimize the deaths, injuries and property damage of various catastrophies than in trying toalter our behavior in the hopes in will minimize our impact on the weather, if that in turn cripples our economy and ability to deal with such inevitable tragedies: The Weather Isn't Getting Weirder

29 posted on 02/14/2011 8:40:57 PM PST by JeffB
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


30 posted on 02/14/2011 8:41:38 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: neverdem

31 posted on 02/14/2011 8:46:36 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: neverdem
It was worth chuckling my way through this whole exercise in handwringing for this nugget:

Another newly minted GOP skeptic, Illinois’s Mark Kirk...

It's the first I heard that Kirk had come to his senses. It's very encouraging.

32 posted on 02/14/2011 8:50:46 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Baynative

Yes, but he’d want to fine the crowd for emissions violations.


33 posted on 02/14/2011 8:55:52 PM PST by Brytani (Liberals - destroying America since 1776)
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To: neverdem
I would be glad to have Mr. Bradford Plumer debate my fifth (now sixth) grade granddaughter on the subject. She did so well (as a fifth grader) at convincing the judges that AGW was "bad science" that she took top science fair honors in the regional science fair -- over several hundred fifth, sixth, seventh and eighth grade competitors.

C'mon Plumer -- let's see if you can hold your own with a middle school girl... (Just give me the popcorn concession...) '-)

34 posted on 02/14/2011 9:09:34 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Lancey Howard
"It's the first I heard that Kirk had come to his senses. It's very encouraging. "

Back in his moderate days, Upton called climate change “a serious problem.”

Not just Kirk, but Upton too!

35 posted on 02/14/2011 9:12:40 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
The skeptic explains how, once upon a time, he, too, blindly accepted everything climatologists have to say about how human activity is heating the planet. But then, as he began to pore over the evidence, the holes in the theory became readily apparent, and, more in sorrow than anger, the skeptic had to conclude that the scientific consensus was mistaken...Try it, you'll like it Mr. Plumer......
36 posted on 02/14/2011 9:14:19 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: neverdem
And why is it the dumb@$$ eco-weenies insist on illustrating articles on carbon dioxide -- or nuclear energy -- with photos of

mere cooling towers -- dumping nothing but water vapor?

37 posted on 02/14/2011 9:14:47 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: TXnMA

They’re visibly emitting “something” — that’s enough for the hide-the-decline crowd.


38 posted on 02/14/2011 9:45:28 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: neverdem
if the agency found that those gases pose a threat to public health and welfare (which, most scientists agree, they do)

But that is certainly a false statement. Go ahead, foolish Bradford Plumer, try to prove that most scientists agree that CO2 (which is vital to life on the planet Earth) poses a threat to public health and welfare...

Another over-educated ignoramus who can't tell the difference between science and politics and religion...

39 posted on 02/14/2011 10:03:04 PM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: neverdem

I can spell out carbon caps in four words for liberals to understand: low standard of living.

This is what they want to support the hoax called climate change!


40 posted on 02/14/2011 10:30:19 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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