CNN via BREAKING on Drudge: White House releases Obama birth certificate

CNN ^ | 27 APR 11 | DCBryan1

[DCBryan1]

(CNN) The White House released President Obama’s original birth certificate Wednesday.

The surprise release follows recent and sustained remarks by businessman Donald Trump, among others, that raised doubts as to whether the president was born in the United States.

[2CAVTrooper]

“Birthers here will be so disappointed.”

Now I’m not a “birther” but I found it troubling that he fought tooth and nail in court while spending millions of dollars to prevent the release of this and other documents.

My question now as it always has been is what is he hiding

[Mr Rogers]

The abandonment by Obama Sr STRENGTHENS the case for Obama being a NBC. Lynch was taken back to England at around 3-4 months old and never returned. She was raised in England as a NBS of the King. No one questioned her citizenship in England - but she was also a NBC of the USA.

Any court that ever takes the case will laugh at birthers, just as the court in Indiana did. It has been settled law for over 150 years.

[hoosiermama]

I’m sure if I’d asked for a photo copy from the book she would have given it to me. Very nice lady.

[Brown Deer]

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151-61-10637 (Nordyke)
Birth Date: Aug. 5, 1961 2:12 P.M.
Date of Parent Signature: 8-7-61
Date of Doctor Signature: 8/11/61
Date Accepted by Local Registrar: AUG 11 1961
Date Accepted by Local Registrar: AUG 11 1961

151-61-10638 (Nordyke)
Birth Date: Aug. 5, 1961 2:17 P.M.
Date of Parent Signature: 8-7-61
Date of Doctor Signature: 8/11/61
Date Accepted by Local Registrar: AUG 11 1961
Date Accepted by Local Registrar: AUG 11 1961

151-61-10641 (0bama)
Birth Date: August 4, 1961 7:24 P.M.
Date of Parent Signature: 8-7-61
Date of Doctor Signature: 8-8-61
Date Accepted by Local Registrar: AUG -8 1961
Date Accepted by Local Registrar: AUG -8 1961

[Freedom56v2]

Fed meeting? Afghanistan killings? I agree, could be coverup to something.

[over3Owithabrain]

So why did Trump say that his investigators in HI can’t believe what they are finding?

[Norm Lenhart]

So let’s have that trial and if they rule in favor of BO, so be it. But whether is strengthens or lessens would be up to the court to decide since this is a different case with different circumstance.

And lets not forget that courts do not always go with prior judgements.

As for the phrase “Settled law” ...kind of like Global warming?

[Brown Deer]

It would seem that they were all done at the same time, but as I pointed out earlier, they were typed out completely differently.

[hoosiermama]

Maybe to pressure BO...Maybe so he can support what Corsi has in his book...BUT definitely to bring BO down. It either BO or the Donald the US isn't big enough for bothof their egos. (and I like the Donald his ego is entertaining)

[danamco]

We're talking about the definition of "natural-born citizen," not those issues. Don't change the subject.

You are damn right, the NBC issue is what we have been talking about for close to three years, NOT a stupid b.c. which is totally irrelevant except for the "forensic sperm DNA" proof here if the document is REAL(?)!

And that's why I ask you go and brush up on the BNA before you blow any steam!!

rxsid gave you an outstanding lesson on your: What are you referring to?

You still are NOT a NBC!!!

[machogirl]

I absolutely agree. The Courts will point to this as precedent. NBC, over if he isn’t removed from office.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

What do you call the people who deliberately spread the falsehood that they were in a position to know and that Obama had no birth certificate. What do you call the people who insisted that the long form would contain information contrary to the COLB?

[Smokin' Joe]

While I would love to see passports and grades and etc., they would not constitutionally affect his legitimacy.

Unless, as Lolo Soetoro's adopted child, he went on to travel, etc. under an Indonesian Passport as an adult. Or used a foreign aid scholarship to get into college. Or was, legally, Barry Soetoro, and changed his name back and did not mention this. There are still far more questions than answers, even about this one supposed answer, which only proves he wasn't a Natural Born Citizen.

[machogirl]

How did you post that screen shot?
Darn your good.

[hoosiermama]

Can you check to see if the DR that signed the BC was ever hired as a “public” physician...One hired to sign official documents, do minor evaluations for the government. If presented with a document or baby not born of “normal/hospital” (Home birth) circumstances.... the DR that fills in the blank.

My nephew was not born in the hospital (on the way) but the document was signed and hospital was noted as his place of birth.

[Mr Rogers]

No, it isn’t a different case. A natural born subject was allowed to have TWO alien parents there temporarily, and still be a NBS. The courts have made it clear - and with very good reason - that NBS and NBC are fully equivalent.

There is no case for the birthers to present. If Obama was born in Hawaii, then he is a NBC. Period. It is law, not science. Science can always debate, but the law does not.

As it was said in Lynch:

“6. Upon principle, therefore, I can entertain no doubt, but that by the law of the United States, every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the United States, whatever were the situation of his parents, is a natural born citizen.”

That Obama’s dad abandoned him and let him be raised in the USA, while Lynch took his daughter back to England and raised her as an English citizen, does NOT mean it is a new case with new principles to be explored.

If Obama was born in Kenya, he is neither a citizen nor a NBC. If he was born in Hawaii, he is both. Period. There is nothing to resolve.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

Phillip Berg: loon
Orly Taitz: loon
Tim Adams: liar
“experts” who attacked COLB: scammers
Barack Obama, who deliberately allowed birthers to drown out the real conservative movement: hoaxter

[Mr Rogers]

Pyro7480, you are in a debate with true believers. They have a religious belief in Vattel, and ignore the fact that Vattel never wrote about natural born subjects, let alone NBCs.

It is like telling a mother she has an ugly baby. The facts don’t matter, only her hurt feelings...

[Norm Lenhart]

“If he was born in Hawaii, he is both. Period. There is nothing to resolve.”

Wrong.It is a different case by circumstance alone. Saying ‘Period’ may close the issue for you, but that’s all it does. The rest of us will go merrily on our way secure in the knowledge that cases are fought over far less every day.

So yes, there is much left to resolve.

[Pyro7480]

I get the impression that rxsid was responding to FourtySeven, not to my "what are you referring to?"

All you have given me is bluster, not evidence of your claim that I'm not "natural born." I've given you citations of Supreme Court cases.