Posted on 04/27/2011 6:13:29 AM PDT by null and void
Just announced. Obama to speak in 45 minutes. (6:45 AM PST)
Sheesh, read the ENTIRE CASE, THE TRANSCRIPTS, and LISTEN TO THE DISCUSSION.
The Justices have differing opinions about NBC.
You should know about this case if you are so versed as you say. THERE IS CLEARLY A DISCUSSION ABOUT NBC. They even talked about Romney’s dad.
Nguyen.
If they created a fake BC, printed it and then scanned it as a PDF file, would the document still show layers?
“Sheesh, read the ENTIRE CASE, THE TRANSCRIPTS, and LISTEN TO THE DISCUSSION.”
WHAT CASE? I’d be happy to read it if you’d post a link.
You then have to assume the Nordyke Twins info is forged because it has the same Hospital.
Btw, the Dr that was involved in Lolo’s immigration case was an assistant chief of staff at that hospital in the 50s. I have posted this article in the past but it is not pulling up right now.
NOtice the name of the hospital ..from the snippet on Google.
Obstetrics in Hawaii
by LG PHILLIPS - 1955
LYLE G. PHILLIPS, M.D., and TORU NISHIGAYA, M.D.. K\PlOl.AN[ Maternity and Gynecological. Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii, was ...
I am not going to go track it down.
I gave you the name
Nguyen.
Go find it.
As per USC 48 Ch 3, S. 3 HAWAII (Hawaii Admission Act), Hawaii’s statehood was not ratified and complete until September 18, 1961. Obama was born August 4, 1961. He is not a natural born US citizen.
Now we ‘know’ that Obama was born of a non-American citizen father, the question remains of Obama’s citizenship: is he a British subject or a dual-citizen (as the Obama web sites claim)? Either case prevents him from being a ‘natural born’ American citizen and being Constitutionally eligible to be President of the United States. The ‘Constitutional Crisis’ remains.
Obama is NOT a natural born citizen. The 14th amendment has TWO requirements... be born in the USA AND... be under the jurisdiction of the US government. The courts have already ruled that people who are in the US temporarily or are foreign diplomats do not fall under the 14th amendment and their children ARE NOT US CITIZENS. Obama Sr. at no time applied for citizenship. Obama Sr. at no time changed his LEGAL DOMICILE from Kenya where he had other children. If you maintain a DOMICILE in another country you can only be in the USA temporarily. Under both US and British laws at the time, Obama JR., at birth, WAS a British Subject and NOT a US natural born citizen or even a common citizen! He is ineligible to be POTUS and is an illegal usurper. The laws have a reason, they are not to be ignored. Showing a COLB changes nothing as the ELK case proved, you CAN BE born on US soil and still not be a US citizen. Doesn’t matter WHERE Obama Jr. was born, what matters is that at the time of his birth he was NOT a US citizen.
Obama is a dual citizen AT BEST, thus, Constitutionally DISQUALIFIED.
His mother’s age only becomes an issue if he were born outside the US. To confer her citizenship, she had to be a US citizen who had lived in the United States for five years after turning 14; mathematically, an 18-year-old cannot meet that standard. (That requirement has been changed for mothers, but it’s still the standard for fathers to confer citizenship.)
However, if Obama were born WITHIN the boundaries of the United States to an American mother, then it doesn’t matter what age she was (or, for that matter, what citizenship his father carried.) (Incidentally, under the current interpretations of the law, it wouldn’t matter what citizenship either parent carried as long as he were born inside the US, which is what leads to the problems of “anchor babies.”)
So: To be a natural-born citizen, you must be a US citizen at the time of your birth. In 1961, to be born a US citizen, you had to be 1) born within the boundaries of the country, or 2) have at least ONE parent who was (a) a US citizen, AND (b) had lived in the US for five years after turning 14. His father was Kenyan, so he’s disqualified by 2a. His mother was only 18, so she’’s disqualified by 2b. Therefore, neither of his parents could confer US citizenship upon him. The only question remaining is whether she gave birth physically in the United States, so that he could qualify under option 1.
Where have you been for the last 3 years or so? This has been explained countless times but I’ll touch on the highlights again. First, a Hawaiian COLB which is different from all other COLBs. Sun Yat Sin got a COLB from HI because they will give anyone and their goat a COLB. Don’t take my word for it, google it yourself. Second, read through the thread because I’m sure others will be pointing out all the discrepencies on this form - hospital name, father’s name, etc. Third, if he really wants to claim this is the real deal then we should accept it and kick him to the curb on the Natural Born Citizen clause. But again, don’t take my word for the definition of it being born in the US or US soil of TWO US CITIZEN PARENTS but use the usurper’s definition... which just happens to be the same. Search out SR 511, any site that includes the discussion with Chertoff and that shows Hussein agreed and signed his name to it locking in his agreement with the TWO US CITIZEN PARENTS definition. He signed it. He can’t wiggle out of it.
Exactly. Trump had a great opening and was successful on the BC point but lost the greater war. Now when trump asks for college records he looks like he is on a fishing expedition. Sure trump brought it up before but not like the BC and therefore boxed himself in.
He is inept and way over his head. Its a shame. If he had framed the debate as not just being about a BC he wouldn’t look quite so foolish now. Now its over. Those of us who believed it was more than about a BC look like kooks if we pursue it.
I’ve always said it was not about a BC or obama but rather the sloppiness by which this country regards what is stated in he constitution. Its like the constitution doesn’t even matter. There was not even congressional hearings to validate whether obama is illegible or not. Ticks me off.
Yes it does, if you are referring to my COLB. My Long Form is NOT certified, so I cannot answer that question.
I hit private reply and didn’t mean to. The R is missing on the white copy. It says BA ACK. But the R shows up on the green copy and not the BA ACK.
Someone was in a hurry to get this out. Big time.
Donald is playing poker. He thinks he knows what his opponent has but he’s calling him on it just to see.
Just was trying to find whether the stamp said THE or TXE. Rummy found one. It is THE. Yours? THE?
Check out # 517 .
Thanks for the correct hospital name, MestaMachine.
Compare “mom’s” signature Stanley here
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/images/2008/10/27/dunham_sophomore_pic.jpg
Versus the BC signature
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgVIei87oFo&feature=player_embedded
There are interesting comments about the layers.
I don’t know squat about Adobe and layers but I can spell “THE” and can see with my own eye there is no way that X was an H.
Someone should be crapping their pants right now that they let such an obvious mistake get out.
Still a fake. Lies, lies, and damn lies.
I tend to agree with the school of thought that would require both parents to be US citizens. However, there IS a school of thought that would only require citizenship of one parent (the mother), however some of us might disagree with it.
We could all argue about this until the cows come home, but until this matter is settled by the USSC it will just be two competing schools of thought arguing with each other, nothing more.
Barry is just a nickname for Barrack.....it Americanizes it. So? I have one, too. I sign my name with either one of them....or just my first initial. Whatever. Means nothing all by itself.
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