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Leader of Brady Group Gloats About Coming Gun Ban ‘Proposals’
Ammoland.com ^ | June 10th, 2011 | Alan Korwin

Posted on 06/11/2011 5:33:46 PM PDT by neverdem

PHOENIX, AZ --(Ammoland.com)- Paul Helmke, ringleader of the aggressive Brady Anti-Gun gang, released this statement about the “bipartisan” gun-control meeting the White House scheduled.

(Note: The “White House” is a building and can’t do anything; the person responsible in that building remains unidentified but appears to be Steve Croley) The meeting only included people who want to ban guns, an indicator of the plans, according to unidentifiable experts.

“On Tuesday, I attended a meeting at the U.S. Department of Justice with representatives from the White House, the Vice-President’s office, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), the FBI, and others from the Obama Administration, along with leaders from the gun violence prevention movement, to discuss how to reach the goals outlined in the President’s statement. Officials from the Administration indicated that this was the first of what they hoped would be a series of discussions. They said they had not settled on, or excluded, any relevant proposals.

“I began the discussion by listing basic measures that the Brady Campaign, and others, felt could make a difference. The list included: a strong background check system, with good and complete records of dangerous and irresponsible people, applicable to all commercial gun sales; more tools for law enforcement to stop trafficking in illegal guns; increasing the number and type of military-style weapons, including "assault clips," that should not be readily available to civilians, like machine-guns and fully automatic weapons. Administration officials then asked questions. My colleagues and I gave examples and arguments for legislative, administrative, and voluntary policies that could help reduce the bloodshed.

“The meeting lasted more than 90 minutes. Having this many Administration representatives spend this much time on this initial meeting signaled to me that the president is serious. He wants to do something meaningful about gun violence. After meeting with others, including law enforcement and "gun rights" groups [note: no such meetings are known to have been held], Obama’s representatives will be presenting specific proposals. We hope those will include all the "sound and effective steps" that the president called for in his statement.”

No word has leaked on what or how the anti-rights leaders will attempt to implement their programs. Rumors are swirling that every effort will be made to avoid going through Congress, since it is well recognized that the peoples’ representatives there will not tolerate rights denial programs. Avoiding Congress would be a travesty bordering on treason, but since it is just one of many such moves, objections might be slight, and arrests of the perpetrators seem unlikely.

One leading gun-rights advocate, who was not invited to the “open” discussions, opined, “A seat at the table would be good, but only if used to present reasonable ideas — gun curricula, self-defense protections, justice for civil-rights violators (just injecting civil rights into the lexicon would be good), gun-free zones vs. make-believe gun-free zones, the debilitating effects of hoplophobia and failure to recognize or treat the sufferers, and have the antis dismiss such common-sense measures; also a chance to stand against the anti-rights movement and cast them as such. I’m not sure which gun-rights leader is best suited to that. I’d love to have a crack at it, but I wasn’t invited.” An opportunity to do any of that was considered unlikely.

There are serious issues American gun owners want discussed, such as restoration of rights, national concealed-carry reciprocity, cracking down on states like New Jersey, New York and California that routinely violate gun owners rights, lifting the administration’s ban on importation of historic WWII-era rifles, reining in the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, especially the Phoenix office and its Fast and Furious and GunWalker operations, and the nomination of anti-gun rights Andrew Traver to head BATFE.

Plans to strip Americans of their guns, either in whole cloth or with a thousand cuts, are deep secrets at both the center of the U.S. government, and at the United Nations, which are known to be working in concert to attain those goals. We’ll be watching.

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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Apropos of nothing, everybody dies of something. Thanks neverdem.


21 posted on 06/11/2011 8:23:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: jospehm20

I concur.


22 posted on 06/11/2011 8:34:14 PM PDT by onyx (If you truly like and support Sarah Palin and want on her BUSY Ping List, let me know!)
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To: Batrachian
You said a mouth full.I think alot of Americans have fallen asleep.
23 posted on 06/11/2011 8:50:06 PM PDT by primrose (PRIMROSE)
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To: SunkenCiv

organization shmorganization. When this country hit’s it’s tipping point, every man, woman, child, and small dog will be a target. Especially the small dogs.


24 posted on 06/11/2011 9:09:18 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( He put... creatures... in our bodies... to control our minds.)
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To: stevie_d_64
While they Gloat...I BLOAT...

Amen to that brother.
25 posted on 06/11/2011 9:52:20 PM PDT by CaptSkip
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To: sergeantdave

Militias are outdated. Look around the world,, leaderless resistance is far better. It’s extremely difficult to roll up. If you give up the luxury of a leader giving orders for this or that plan,,,you wind up with a movement that is much more to be feared.


26 posted on 06/12/2011 1:15:16 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: neverdem

Obama Second Amendment. “A well regulated population of slaves being needed to preserve the Communist Party. The right of elite Party Members tp bear arms shall not be infringed.”


27 posted on 06/12/2011 3:05:51 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: sergeantdave

what the heck are you babbling about? Which patriots am I cutting down? For your information, dimwit, I was a reservist until I was forced out by health problems, and that was not so long ago. I don’t know what you’re responding to. Sheesh.


28 posted on 06/12/2011 3:42:03 AM PDT by Batrachian (Prepare for four more years.)
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To: tet68
I for one would like to see the minutes of this meeting, transparency would demand it

Calling partisan meetings to whip up support for a planned E.O. or other Administration action is something Obama has done a lot, ee.g. his "stakeholder" meetings on Obamacare and on "reform" of IRA's and 401(k)'s (seizure of private retirement assets).

The Bolsheviks used to call these kinds of meetings "soviets".

29 posted on 06/12/2011 4:03:12 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: neverdem
We need a list of the attendees, who have been conspiring to deprive the American people of a Civil Right.

That is both a criminal and civil offense.

Gunowners should file a class action suit against them all, strip them of their funds and lay waste to this crap once and for all. A group of 80,000,000 (or so) plaintifs should carry some weight.

30 posted on 06/12/2011 7:42:01 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: sergeantdave; Batrachian

LOL

I’m pouring lots of butter on my popcorn.


31 posted on 06/12/2011 10:12:19 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: neverdem
Leader of Brady Group Gloats About Coming Gun Ban ‘Proposals’

And PLEASE... get these "proposals" out there in the runup to the 2012 elections!

32 posted on 06/12/2011 6:40:05 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: neverdem

Korwin’s a good man.


33 posted on 06/12/2011 7:03:23 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: DesertRhino

I agree. “Unintended Consequences” tells the story. A must read. Henry Bowman was right.


34 posted on 06/13/2011 4:22:16 AM PDT by vortec94
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To: neverdem

One of the items on the gun grabbers wish list is “good and complete records of dangerous and irresponsible people.”

the dims are very emboldended with an acting president who has no regard for the Constitution.


35 posted on 06/13/2011 4:46:46 AM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: Batrachian

So, basically, the NRA should become a de-facto arm of the Republican Party?

No f%*&ing way.

We’re trying to get more Democrats to side with us on 2A issues, so withholding endorsements simply because they’re Democrats is just stupid.


36 posted on 06/13/2011 6:01:27 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: neverdem; harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Enemy action ping. Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
37 posted on 06/13/2011 6:09:06 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Smokin' Joe
You fill out the affidavit and fax it to me. I'll sign it under scrutiny of a Notary and fax it back.

A Class action lawsuit? No, it needs to be a Criminal complaint!

I don't care if I see ONE DIME in compensatory damages. I want my Rights back and I no longer want to live in fear of being shot by government agents for simply putting those Rights into practice.

38 posted on 06/13/2011 6:36:53 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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To: Travis McGee; neverdem; Joe Brower; marktwain

I am really surprised that some pro gun nutcase hasn’t yet flipped out and shot Helmke or Brady the same way the dude took out the Congresswoman in Arizona last month.


39 posted on 06/13/2011 7:35:15 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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>>No word has leaked on what or how the anti-rights leaders will attempt to implement their programs. Rumors are swirling that every effort will be made to avoid going through Congress, since it is well recognized that the peoples’ representatives there will not tolerate rights denial programs. Avoiding Congress would be a travesty bordering on treason, but since it is just one of many such moves, objections might be slight, and arrests of the perpetrators seem unlikely.<<

Communist and Muslim supporters should take note of this statement:

WHAT IS A PATRIOT?

PATRIOTS are not “Revolutionaries” trying to overthrow the government of the United States.

PATRIOTS are “Counter-Revolutionaries” trying to prevent the government of the United States from overthrowing the Constitution of the United States. - Unknown Author


40 posted on 06/13/2011 7:41:17 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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