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Cain Proposes Electrified Border Fence
Pravda- NY Times Division ^ | 10/15/11 | Wyatt

Posted on 10/15/2011 4:18:53 PM PDT by VinL

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Saturday that part of his immigration policy would be to build an electrified fence on the country’s border with Mexico that could kill people trying to enter the country illegally...

Mr. Cain added that he also would consider using military troops “with real guns and real bullets” on the border to stop illegal immigration.

The remarks were among the most pointed yet by Mr. Cain about illegal immigration, and they come as he is enjoying a surge in national political polls on the back of his victory in a recent Florida straw poll..

It is not the first time that Mr. Cain has floated the idea of an electrified fence. He has told the story many times of a caller to his former radio show who chastised him for talking about building a border fence, saying that such an idea was impractical.

“It’s going to be 20 feet high. It’s going to have barbed wire on the top. It’s going to be electrified. And there’s going to be a sign on the other side saying, ‘It will kill you — Warning.’” At an earlier rally, on the campus of Tennessee Tech University in Cookeville, Tenn., he added that the sign would be written “in English and in Spanish.”

“This nation has always been a nation with wide open doors,” Mr. Cain said at the second rally. “We want to make it easy for people to come through the front door. And we’re going to shut off the back door so you don’t have to sneak into America.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com ...


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To: txhurl
Not a bad idea but it's been considered and rejected several times in the past ~ including with the Louisiana Purchase (figuring out that Western border was a trick Fur Shur), and later with the Mexican Cession.

I think even the Texicans considered it back when they finally kicked out Santa Anna ~ they opted for a border at the LONGEST RIVER in the region but they could have demanded the Coast all the way to Honduras too.

No, we don't want Mexico. They have their place as defined by their Revolutionary government. Now they gotta' live with it.

801 posted on 10/16/2011 5:39:04 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mylife

I guess Israel doesn’t have a hoard of Mexicans coming across the Nagev.


802 posted on 10/16/2011 5:40:14 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Netizen

since this article is from the Slimes, any quotes attributed to Cain need a fact check/context check. I know he says he was joking - using hyperbole, and I also know that the media can take anything out of context. I would like to see the speech or interview that this article is citing for myself.


803 posted on 10/16/2011 5:42:36 AM PDT by Puddleglum ("rattlesnake museum, diner, and emporium - 14 miles south - bus drivers eat free")
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To: Porterville
If he really said this then his rise is over. It is silly and nonsensical to behave in this manner.

I dunno if his rise is over, but rhetoric like that is best left to these boards. If he keeps this up, he will marginalize himself, despite all the other good things he has going for him.

804 posted on 10/16/2011 5:47:08 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Niteflyr

I think any dead babies retrieved from an electrified fence should be used in stem cell research. /sarcasm


805 posted on 10/16/2011 5:52:26 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: VinL

I think I saw this in the move Jurassic Park.


806 posted on 10/16/2011 5:54:02 AM PDT by linn37
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To: SpaceBar

[candidate Herman Cain said Saturday that part of his immigration policy would be to build an electrified fence on the country’s border with Mexico
he also would consider using military troops “with real guns and real bullets” on the border to stop illegal immigration.]

He really is a conservative American patriot.


807 posted on 10/16/2011 6:02:09 AM PDT by kindred ( Third party conservatism is on the rise, God bless the conservative tea party.)
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To: katieanna

[...anyone explain how you can build a fence on the Rio Grande River.]

On our border this side of the rio grande river.


808 posted on 10/16/2011 6:03:39 AM PDT by kindred ( Third party conservatism is on the rise, God bless the conservative tea party.)
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To: Krankor

Your the____________. Fill in the blank man.


809 posted on 10/16/2011 6:04:37 AM PDT by kindred ( Third party conservatism is on the rise, God bless the conservative tea party.)
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To: BobL
The BORDER FENCE WITH LANDMINES ran from the Baltic to the Adriatic ~ which is quite a distance.

Why people keep imagining the Berlin Wall is something I will never understand. The Fence kept millions of people from crossing from Eastern Europe to Western Europe. The Berlin wall kept a few hundred thousand from doing so. After all, many of those in East Berlin LOVED THE PLACE 'cause they were COMMIES!

810 posted on 10/16/2011 6:18:44 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: woofie

Speaking of trying to land on the East or West coasts, what happens is Coast Guard will interdict you far at sea ~ we have electronic surveillance that detects your presence way out there ~ and you will open your mouth to speak Spanish and we will TAKE YOU BACK TO CUBA!


811 posted on 10/16/2011 6:21:45 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: berdie

“In fact..this whole moats, alligators, bombs, electrify them thread makes me sad..so I must refrain from any further response..”

We’re “heartless.” heehee


812 posted on 10/16/2011 6:22:45 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Bush called us "vigilantes." Perry calls us "heartless.")
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To: cripplecreek
You mean people who are more concerned with getting their way than saving America. Little better than the wall street protesters in my opinion.

Yep. People on FR who call themselves Americans and conservatives but in reality put their own self interests above the nation on a regular basis.

813 posted on 10/16/2011 6:29:19 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Niteflyr
Everyone speaks to LaRaza, that is just a fact... but by all means flush the Hispanic vote down the tubes

That's what it's all about, isn't it - hispanics? When did they become more important than Americans?

814 posted on 10/16/2011 6:32:48 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Howie66

It’s barely moving this morning.


815 posted on 10/16/2011 6:35:35 AM PDT by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: VinL

GREAT RED MEAT, politically incorrect to the core, to turn out the conservative base who will primarily be the voters in the GOP primaries. Great move. It will all be forgotten by November and Herman can watch such kinds of statements at that time, but for now, excellent timing and it raises his a) name ID; b) likeability by Conservative Republicans; c) donations, d) being an anathema to all of liberaldom whose heads are exploding and are magically SILENT because they have not figured out how to handle Herman Cain yet without it backfiring in their own faces.


816 posted on 10/16/2011 6:38:46 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Herman Cain will be the nominee of the GOP! The momentum is unmistakeable. The Dems/RINOs hate it.)
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To: traditional1
"....They'll just continually short out the fence, and climb over. Maybe 100KV or more would help?...."

You have just raised to possibility of using electric utilities' power grids (long distance transmission lines) along the top of the fence.

I'm not talking about 100KV (100.000 volts)...I'm talking about a million volts or more, which is commonly used in long distance transmission, before it hits the distribution (substations) part of the grid.

Now THAT would be effective.

Power companies, with Federal help, could string these lines along the top of the fence....one could also employ step-down transformers along the way to electrify the entire fence at a voltage that would just kill and not vaporize.

817 posted on 10/16/2011 6:39:04 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: Niteflyr; Arizona Carolyn
Ooops! This was meant for "ArizonaCarolyn"...

That's what it's all about, isn't it - hispanics? When did they become more important than Americans?

818 posted on 10/16/2011 6:39:16 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: raybbr
That's what it's all about, isn't it - hispanics? When did they become more important than Americans?

In 2000, 2004, and 2008 for the vote harvest.

819 posted on 10/16/2011 6:40:20 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Rick Perry engages in corporate welfare via Texas TEF/ETF)
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To: SouthTexas

lol


820 posted on 10/16/2011 6:42:05 AM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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