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PJM Sources Report Details of Alleged Cain Incident
PJMedia ^ | November 3, 2011 | Richard Pollock

Posted on 11/03/2011 10:04:50 AM PDT by bbernard

Adding to the ongoing Herman Cain sexual harassment controversy, two sources have now confirmed to PJ Media that a female employee of the National Restaurant Association told associates she had been brought by Mr. Cain to his Crystal City, Virginia residence where she alleged “he had taken advantage of me.”

One source, a male, told PJ Media:

Herman took advantage of seniority and power with a young woman. It was an abuse of power.

Implying that coming forward with the accusations was an ordeal for the young woman, the source also said:

Who do you believe, a CEO or a mid-level staffer? It was unsettling for her to make charges.

The name of the woman — who was in her early twenties at the time of the alleged incident — has been confirmed by PJ Media. We have chosen not to reveal her identity for reasons of discretion.

Both sources, one male and one female, worked at the time — mid-1990s — for the governmental affairs department of the National Restaurant Association, as did the woman.

(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; cainsexualharrass; cainslander; harrassment; herbcain; herman; hermancain; misogynist; pjm; sexual
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To: cuban leaf
—Seems to me that I read somewhere that a person has the right to face their accusers— In real court, yes. In the court of public opinion? Not so much.

In the court of public opinion, people of fine character wait to see if there is a real accuser with a real story about a legitimate complaint.

The classless, Mitt-bots and Perry-bots, not so much.

201 posted on 11/03/2011 11:03:26 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: jla

No he just gives executive orders that give a cash bonus to the company his ex-Chief of staff works for (the Guardisil executive order). Let’s see, thoroughly documented by Perry himself and acting as if there had to be cash exchanged for it to be wrong, as opposed to unsourced accusations.

Ravenstar


202 posted on 11/03/2011 11:03:31 AM PDT by Ravenstar (Reinstitute the Constitution as the Ultimate Law of the Land --Cain 2012)
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To: bbernard

I noticed several places in this thread where members quoted the article saying “she woke up in his bed.”

So I read the article just now and it says she spent the night there “and woke up.” Period. Nothing about a bed. Has the PJ site deleted the bed?

She slept and “woke up” - a curious sentence - of course she woke up, where - the sofa?


203 posted on 11/03/2011 11:04:17 AM PDT by drierice
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To: ScottinVA

You forgot to include the most important part:

“woke up in his bed.”


205 posted on 11/03/2011 11:04:37 AM PDT by luckybogey
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To: bbernard
Still anonymous. More egregious charges, but still most likely leftist character assassination.

Anyone assuming this is TRUE, who posts here as a conservative on a conservative website and claims to be a THINKER, should be ashamed.

206 posted on 11/03/2011 11:04:43 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: bbernard

And another bullshiite n00b chimes in to pontificate on the completely unsubstantiated innuendo as if it is evidence just waiting to be aired. Axelrod filth you are.


207 posted on 11/03/2011 11:04:43 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Strategerist
I'm extremely familiar with Clarence Thomas. There's a BIG difference between winning elective office, and getting confirmed for an appointed job.

There's also a BIG difference between an accuser who comes forward and names herself and one who doesn't.

208 posted on 11/03/2011 11:04:43 AM PDT by kevao
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To: Political Junkie Too

Ah, thank you. :)


209 posted on 11/03/2011 11:04:53 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (Go, Herman!)
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To: ScottinVA
What's the agenda of the mid-level staffer?

Here's a question.

What's the name of the supposed mid-level staffer?

210 posted on 11/03/2011 11:05:17 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: teenyelliott; 9YearLurker

This is not a Lewinski event. It is a Gennifer Flowers event.

Except this is completely anonymous and nothing but inuendo so far.

And Clinton still won.


211 posted on 11/03/2011 11:05:23 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Reagan Man

And yet, he is beating the pants off of your candidate. Yep, da#N neophytes. Get a grip, Perrywinkle. Your guy was tied to the smear...deal with it.


212 posted on 11/03/2011 11:05:42 AM PDT by chilepup
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To: All
We have the NAMES of the women Clinton sexually abused and Paula Jones proved her case in court.

Cain has 3 ghost bimbos haunting him and until they materialize and take responsibility for their allegations...well,there ain't no such thing as ghosts!

213 posted on 11/03/2011 11:05:46 AM PDT by Happy Rain ( "Many of the most useful idiots of the Left are on the Right.")
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To: bbernard

Now that the SRM is doing such a good job (sic) of covering this story, I’m sure that they will put forth the same effort to cover,and ask Zero about, the murders of Donald Young, Larry Bland and Nate Spenser. You will recall that all three were members of Zero’s Chicago church, all three were gay and all three were shot in the head within 40 days starting in November 2007. While they’re at it they can investigate, and ask the POTUS, what happened to Lieutenant Quarles who was close to finding out who accessed and scrubbed Zero’s passport records, and was also shot to death!


214 posted on 11/03/2011 11:05:53 AM PDT by Batman11 (Obama's poll numbers are so low the Kenyans are claiming he was born in the USA!)
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To: cuban leaf
The only one that wasn’t was hung on a cross.

Good point. :)

215 posted on 11/03/2011 11:06:18 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (Go, Herman!)
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To: Yaelle

It is called quid pro quo...you do this (go to be with me), I’ll give you that (promotion, raise, etc.). It is all neat and tidy until the boss doesn’t produce the raise, promotion, etc.


216 posted on 11/03/2011 11:06:18 AM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: Jane Long
...According to both sources, Mr. Cain and the woman had been with a large group for a long evening of food and drink...afterwards, Mr. Cain allegedly took the woman by taxi to his apartment, where she spent the night and woke up in his bed.

The PJM version doesn't have the words "in his bed." A HUGE difference here.

217 posted on 11/03/2011 11:06:23 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Hurrah me boys, for FREEDOM! `Tis the risin` o` the moon!)
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To: AdamBomb

—Whether Cain did anything or not, I’m starting to get this sinking feeling that it won’t matter. They are hell bent on getting him out of the way. It will be hard to defend all of this crap.—

I agree, and anything worth having is hard. Just ask Clarence Thomas. They thought they were gonna Bork him, but didn’t expect him to actually fight back.

Cain is a fighter. You have to be to accomplish what he has. This is going to be fun for us observers and I expect Cain to win this one.


218 posted on 11/03/2011 11:07:19 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

The article doesn’t say she woke up in Cain’s bed. It says:

“...took the woman by taxi to his apartment, where she spent the night and woke up.”

The word bed is not found in the article at all. Neither is the word sex.

When you go with someone to their apartment after a night of drinking, the assumption is you’re going to have sex. The fact that the article seems doesn’t meniton sex or a bed, but says “spent the night and woke up” is, well...a curious choice of words.

I’m not sure what to make out of this, other than the fact that there’s something missing from the story.


219 posted on 11/03/2011 11:08:21 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Just say #So? to the mainstream media smears)
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To: Retired Greyhound
Taking advantage of Monica Lewinsky was no big deal to them, so why should this be?

It's NOT a big deal to them. It is their hope, however, that it be a big deal with Republican (base) primary voters so as to knock Hermain Cain off the pedestal upon which he has been placed by said voters.

220 posted on 11/03/2011 11:08:25 AM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: xzins

Cain has said he has never done these things...or did you miss this part?


221 posted on 11/03/2011 11:08:31 AM PDT by chilepup
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To: kevao
There's also a BIG difference between an accuser who comes forward and names herself and one who doesn't.

Exactly! If an accuser(s) is coming forward who refuses to be named, it is a very good indication they are doing this for some kind of gain. This is why I heavily suspect Mittens and Perrywinkle.

222 posted on 11/03/2011 11:08:38 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: cuban leaf

With the rate that it is going and the second woman asking to be released from the nondisclosure, I find it hard to believe her colleagues from the time are misrepresenting what they have shared.

Also, with Cain’s serial lies I find it hard to believe anything about his account at this point.


223 posted on 11/03/2011 11:08:54 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: proud American in Canada

Politico reporting payments of $45K for one women and $35K for the other.


224 posted on 11/03/2011 11:08:58 AM PDT by teddyballgame1
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To: Pollster1

Sometimes things like this that happen are best untold.

One of my former bosses, a colonel, related the story of one of his friends, a (married) colonel who happened to be a base commander. He and a (married) female captain who worked for him attended a conference at Maxwell AFB. They both attended a banquet the last evening of the conference and they both of them drank much more than they should have. The captain woke up in the colonel’s bed in VIP quarters the next morning after what apparently was a night of consensual sex. The captain apparently had remorse for what she willfully had done and, thinking “OMG, what will I tell my husband?”, reported to the security police that she had been raped.

The colonel was arrested and court-martialed, and his wife filed for divorce. At the court-martial the captain admitted that the sex had been consensual and the colonel was acquitted of the rape charge. The end result was that two careers and two marriages were needlessly destroyed.


225 posted on 11/03/2011 11:09:06 AM PDT by RightWingConspirator (Zerobama's bus tour: the Blunder Bus Tour)
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To: Jim Robinson
Sir, isn't it time to take this bull shit innuendo lynching more seriously and edit some of these agitprops from the forum posting privileges? I mean this thread poster is playing a farcical game of feint praise all the way to ‘serious implications’ in only a hundred or so hits posted, with zero evidence yet provided! How much more ridiculous can Freerepublic be made to look than allowing this continued democratesque Clarence Thomas style lynching by innuendo to go on and on and on and on?
226 posted on 11/03/2011 11:09:20 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Strategerist

The point is that Thomas was able to get the elected republicans to NOT throw him under the bus because of the way he handled himself. Cain is the same spirit. The question we have to ask is, are WE going to throw him under the bus?

Or are we better than that?


227 posted on 11/03/2011 11:09:27 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
"took advantage of me"

Has anyone -- seriously, as opposed to being funny -- used that expression in such a context since, say, the 50s? The mid-90s was a good 20 years into the "sexual revolution."

228 posted on 11/03/2011 11:10:16 AM PDT by maryz
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To: casinva

Thanks for another rae voce of common sense...but as a fellow member of the FR class of 1998..we can expect no less of each other..(g)

don’t know if you saw my #82. I have two daughters, and I know how vulnerable they were when they first started their careers. It really aggravates me how so many here are treating the young ladies like whores.


229 posted on 11/03/2011 11:10:26 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: Reagan Man

My goodness you’re touchy, perhaps it’s because your candidate is a loser.


230 posted on 11/03/2011 11:10:51 AM PDT by Carl from Marietta (Cain, there's a new sheriff in town.)
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To: Longbow1969

What a disgusting post to make with absolutely zero evidence to support your crap. But one thing is good about this, we are seeing the real nature of some of you drek.


231 posted on 11/03/2011 11:11:25 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: chilepup

You are wrongo...when you’ve got hard proof...like hush money paid through a settlement along with written letters sent to the Feds according to regulations outlining the incident even before the settlement took place. The Feds determined there was a case for sexual harassment. This was so bad a the young female’s parents were involved. Dance around it all you like but Cain is done.


232 posted on 11/03/2011 11:11:29 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Thane_Banquo

Strange as it sounds, Anita Hill had more credibility than any of Herman Cain’s anonymous accusers.


233 posted on 11/03/2011 11:11:34 AM PDT by kevao
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To: RightWingConspirator
Sometimes things like this that happen are best if they don't happen in the first place.

It's not an accident, and it is avoidable by making better choices. It's not enough to disqualify Cain, if it is true, but it would be bad news in terms of his character. In any case, I still haven't seen anything worth listening to.

234 posted on 11/03/2011 11:12:53 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: bbernard

So one of his employees gets plastered at a party. He let’s her crash at his pad to sleep it off instead of letting her drive drunk. Nothing sexual is said to have happened.... and somehow Cain is the bad guy?


235 posted on 11/03/2011 11:12:58 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Strategerist
Uhmm,

I know people will scream bloody murder about “double standards” but you have to face the reality that someone who makes a big deal about being religious and moral is going to be hurt by something like this infinitely more than a politician who doesn’t.

You might need to add a qualifier or two to your statement.

236 posted on 11/03/2011 11:13:18 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: drierice

No, I don’t believe it said his bed but this article is written in a way that can push people to many assumptions. Why Richard Pollock wrote this way makes me wonder his motives.


237 posted on 11/03/2011 11:13:23 AM PDT by bbernard
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To: VanDeKoik; jla
We are not voting for Perry, thanks.

There Perry people need to learn that their tactics are a total turn off to their guy.

I saw Perry on Hannity's show last night and actually came away with a positive attitude toward him.

Then I come here and see what his supporters stoop too and it's a total turn off.

238 posted on 11/03/2011 11:13:24 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: Brookhaven
“...took the woman by taxi to his apartment, where she spent the night and woke up.” Cain is not my first choice but this is so ridiculous...if true...what business did either Cain or this gal have to go to his apartment period. He could have gotten her a room which is what a gentleman would do...certainly wouldn't take her "home".

It's bogus IMO...and not hardly worth the time given it.

239 posted on 11/03/2011 11:13:39 AM PDT by caww
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To: RightWingConspirator

Its not always a good thing to have a conscience.


240 posted on 11/03/2011 11:13:42 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: beandog

First, they are not all young girls. This one was. I believe the other went to an Ivy League school, and the rest I don’t know.

Secondly, she is with her lawyer today working on a public legal statement. I would assume it won’t be long.

Finally, my daughter was RAPED when she was 16, and I went through that time with her and she is a beautiful woman now, and DON’T YOU DARE SAY ANOTHER WORD ABOUT MY DAUGHTER YOU IGNORANT WEASEL. YOU ARE SICK YOU PATHETIC IGNORANT THING MAKING FUN OF A MOTHER WHO HAD TO SEE HER LITTLE GIRL RAPED AND WHO STOOD WITH HER THROUGH ALL THE COURT PROCEEDINGS.

She has overcome that, but people like you in this society are horrible people who don’t deserve to have a family, let alone a daughter who could call you “Dad”.


241 posted on 11/03/2011 11:13:46 AM PDT by casinva
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To: chilepup

Cain has denied sexual harrassment. That’s all, and I’ve followed this pretty closely.

I’m also fairly disappointed in the campaign manager.

And I’m tired of hearing “only anonymous sources.” Cain has said on TV that he knows at least one of them and even made a point of saying he did not reveal her name. And he did not reveal her name, but he did tell Greta her age range now, height, NRA department she had worked in.

That one, at least, is NOT anonymous. He knows exactly who she is.


242 posted on 11/03/2011 11:14:01 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: maryz

yes - I’m tired of this “little ‘ole helpless me” act.

I’ve never wrapped my brain around the feminist message that women are just as smart, just as strong (stronger even!)

And yet - we get taken advantage of!
We don’t say no, or push a hand away because we’re so darn....afraid! oh my!


243 posted on 11/03/2011 11:14:18 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: ohioman

Three times? Usually it’s the Dems that do that.


244 posted on 11/03/2011 11:15:34 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: ken5050; All
It really aggravates me how so many here are treating the young ladies like whores.

Who are the 'young ladies?' Where are they? How do you know who or what they are or where?

As of this moment, this is classic character assassination. Typical of what is done to successful Republicans.

I'm surprised that so many are falling for this (regardless of whom you favor in the primaries), without any factual evidence to support it.

I can't tolerate Ron Paul, but I would be equally suspect of any unsubstantiated, anonymous charges made against him.

I hope we conservatives start getting our act together before our candidate is selected and we have to go up against the filth in the White House (who is most likely behind this ridiculous set of accusations).

245 posted on 11/03/2011 11:15:45 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: xzins

And he knows EXACTLY what happened. So, again, if Cain has denied wrong doing, then what is your problem with a story filled with “anonymous sources”.

I’m disappointed in you


246 posted on 11/03/2011 11:15:50 AM PDT by chilepup
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To: mnehring
He let’s her crash at his pad to sleep it off instead of letting her drive drunk

If true...and I do question that....Cain would know better then to take a woman home...get her a room somewhere if that. I think the story is bogus.

247 posted on 11/03/2011 11:16:08 AM PDT by caww
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To: shield
...when you’ve got hard proof...like hush money paid through a settlement along with written letters sent to the Feds according to regulations outlining the incident even before the settlement took place. The Feds determined there was a case for sexual harassment. This was so bad a the young female’s parents were involved. Dance around it all you like but Cain is done.

You think we have hard proof, and your screen name is shield??

248 posted on 11/03/2011 11:16:25 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Ravenstar
Have you ever worked in upper management? I have and the standards are different.
249 posted on 11/03/2011 11:16:55 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: MrShoop
but cheating on his wife? Not so much...

At the moment, I am inclined to say if there was one transgression twenty years ago and he and is wife worked it out, then it is no one else's business.

Given the field of candidates, I am willing to overlook one mistake in Cain's personal life.

At the moment. But I am worried.

250 posted on 11/03/2011 11:17:02 AM PDT by teenyelliott (welcome to the Twilight Zone)
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