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Perry endorses work visas for illegal immigrants
Las Vegas Sun ^ | Nov. 3, 2011 | The Associated Press

Posted on 11/03/2011 5:24:19 PM PDT by moonshinner_09

Texas Gov. Rick Perry says America should extend work visas to allow illegal immigrants to move freely between the U.S. and their home countries _ but opposes a path to citizenship.

(Excerpt) Read more at lasvegassun.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: alien; aliens; amnesty; clueless; criminals; duplicate; heartless; idiot; illegals; immigration; migrantworkers; moron; perry; perry4amnesty; perry4illegals; perrylovesillegals; rino; workvisa
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To: BobL
I will do some reading on the matter, But it looks to be like the Fed is screwing Joes Garage.. and sloughing of their duty on private citizens under fiscal penalty.

Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and ICE Director John Morton revealed that in fiscal year 2010, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) enforcement numbers climbed to historic high numbers. This surge included a 500% increase in penalties from worksite enforcement actions, a nearly two-fold increase in I-9 audits (2,200), a record-breaking 180 criminal prosecutions of employers and the debarring of more than 97 businesses (compared to 30 last FY). Average fines exceeded $110,000.">

241 posted on 11/03/2011 9:02:16 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: BobL
But in the end, don’t you feel silly having to defend Perry and his Open-Borders crusade?

The only thing I feel silly about is wasting my time thinking I was having a conversation with someone who was serious. You want to surrender the Rio Grande to Mexico but make it ok because you can put in a pipe.

242 posted on 11/03/2011 9:03:31 PM PDT by txroadkill (FreeRepublic.com- "A Wretched Hive of Scum and Villany" - Zotted Romney Troll)
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Fine the Illegal, not the US Citizen.


243 posted on 11/03/2011 9:05:34 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Maybe you don’t, I shouldn’t jump to conclusions like that. Sorry.

No you do not get fined. The whole idea is that as long as you used E-verify, which only determines if the ID info matches the SS records, then you’re off the hook if an illegal get’s by you.

Further, you can’t use e-verify until after you have hired the person and the person can’t be fired until an appeals process is complete. That protects people who are not illegals but had a problem with their info matching (like a woman got married but didn’t notify ss of her new name, etc.)


244 posted on 11/03/2011 9:05:36 PM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: mylife

“I will do some reading on the matter, But it looks to be like the Fed is screwing Joes Garage.. and sloughing of their duty on private citizens under fiscal penalty. “

Seems rather heartless of them. I’m sure Governor Perry will fix it...


245 posted on 11/03/2011 9:06:33 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Gingrich is a vote for Romney)
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To: dennisw
He’s on a national stage now but is still stuck in Texas

Well he hired the right people that should have been able to keep him from saying what he did, but that didn't work out. This is one of those things that could cut his poll numbers in half.
246 posted on 11/03/2011 9:07:22 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: free me

But why is the onus on US Businesses?


247 posted on 11/03/2011 9:07:50 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: txroadkill

“The only thing I feel silly about is wasting my time thinking I was having a conversation with someone who was serious. You want to surrender the Rio Grande to Mexico but make it ok because you can put in a pipe. “

And you want OPEN BORDERS with Mexico. They can have the damn river - we have pipes, so we’ll get our share of the water. As for rafting, I prefer to do that at safer locations.


248 posted on 11/03/2011 9:08:03 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Gingrich is a vote for Romney)
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To: All

Gnight gang.

Thanks for the chin wag.


249 posted on 11/03/2011 9:09:36 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: lonestar

look up in the thread, it’s been posted.


250 posted on 11/03/2011 9:10:17 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: mylife

It is illegal to hire someone not present in the country legally.

E-verify is a free tool to help employers comply with the law.

E-verify takes the onus of determining whether a person can legally be hired off the business and puts it on the FEDS.


251 posted on 11/03/2011 9:14:40 PM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: mylife
This country used to have a work program for mexicans, they were called Brasseros. It didn't work, all it did was open the door for thousands, and eventually millions, of illegals to come streaming into the country with everyone assuming they had a work permit. It took jobs away from American migrant workers(look it up)and the only ones who benefited were farmers who were able to have virtual slaves for less than minimum wage and they treated the workers like dirt. The program was finally ended but many people today don't remember it so they think it would be a good idea to do it again.

Perry is a total idiot for saying and advocating this. I am sure he must remember, or at least be aware of, the old Brasseros program.

252 posted on 11/03/2011 9:18:16 PM PDT by calex59
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To: txroadkill
You want to surrender the Rio Grande to Mexico but make it ok because you can put in a pipe.

Some people, given a choice between "building a fence" and "securing the border" will choose "build the fence".

Even where it's a bad idea.

Like along a river passing through an arid to semi-arid area.

For guidance, perhaps we should check out how the Israelis secure the River Jordan border between Jordan and the West Bank.

It's not a fence. It's a series of armed outposts, connected by a road.

Blocking access to a river coursing through a semi-arid landscape will inconvenience only your own citizens. While enabling the citizens of the country on the opposite bank.

253 posted on 11/03/2011 9:18:43 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: UniqueViews
Take it up with Palin, I merely posted her statements verbatim.

I merely pointed out your hypocrisy you are giving a pass to Palin for being for a path to citizenship for illegal aliens, while bashing Perry for giving them work visas without a path to citizenship.

It's what VP running mates do.

You can post Palin's interview with Univision until you're blue in the face, but the fact is, she was stating John McCain's position on the matter - not her own.

Pull up some of Palin's statements about illegal immigration, after she left the McCain campaign. World of difference.

254 posted on 11/03/2011 9:19:30 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: free me

No, it places a fine of over 110K on average, on the American businessman.

And the Feds will tell us when we are in compliance or violation for a matter that is THEIR JOB.


255 posted on 11/03/2011 9:23:03 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: calex59
Perry is a total idiot for saying and advocating this. I am sure he must remember, or at least be aware of, the old Brasseros program.

He's old enough to remember, and it was "Bracero" and it was a huge magnet for illegals, even though it was not intended to be. Lots of folks decided to stick around after they should have left, and ironically, Texas was opposed to the program if I recall, because they just wanted an open border situation. Place was run by Democrats back then, no surprise.
256 posted on 11/03/2011 9:23:34 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: okie01

Perry proposes the same plan.

You cant waste time out in the Negev desert.


257 posted on 11/03/2011 9:25:30 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: calex59

I haven’t picked blueberry for 4c a pint in a very long time.


258 posted on 11/03/2011 9:28:20 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: calex59

I recall when I was a child, the migrants would come to Ohio to pick the crop that even us kids didn’t want to deal with.

I don’t recall any crime or drugs, and the migrants returned home upon completion of harvest.

Something has changed since those days and that something is amnesty.

Perry is not proposing amnesty.
In fact he REJECTS IT


259 posted on 11/03/2011 9:35:29 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: moonshinner_09

He keeps talking like that, the MSM will drop Mitt and go all out for Rick!


260 posted on 11/03/2011 9:36:02 PM PDT by matthew fuller (9-9-9 ? Just say No! No! No!)
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