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Why climategate is a catastrophe for science
Financial Times ^ | November 25, 2011 | Christopher Caldwell

Posted on 11/27/2011 5:20:26 PM PST by neverdem

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agw; climatechange; climategate; globalwarming; science
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1 posted on 11/27/2011 5:20:37 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem; Admin Moderator

Article is available only to registered subscribers.


2 posted on 11/27/2011 5:23:55 PM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: justlurking

My Firefox stalled as if stuned by headlights. FT didn’t want to let go.


3 posted on 11/27/2011 5:24:42 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: neverdem
"Follow the link."

Easier said than done :(

4 posted on 11/27/2011 5:26:40 PM PST by labette ( Humble student of Thinkology)
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To: neverdem

Since I can’t read the article I’ll respond to the title:

It’s not a catastrophe for science when junk science is confronted and eliminated.


5 posted on 11/27/2011 5:28:52 PM PST by samtheman
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To: neverdem

I don’t have to read the article to know that it has damaged science immensely.

It’s about trust. It only takes one little lie to throw doubt upon everything that somebody tells me and climate gate is that one lie that forces me to have to check and double check so-called scientific facts.


6 posted on 11/27/2011 5:29:33 PM PST by Jonty30 (If a person won't learn under the best of times, than he must learn under the worst of times.)
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To: neverdem

Oblique reference...

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/durban-ahead-why-climategate-is-a-catastrophe-for-good-science/881182/0


7 posted on 11/27/2011 5:32:42 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: justlurking

Go to the Home page, then click on “Simon Kuper Squabbling while the world burns” at the top on the right.


8 posted on 11/27/2011 5:37:43 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: neverdem

Catastrophe for science: Not only science but the UN and the one world governance movement. Check out “Watts Up With That” web site.


9 posted on 11/27/2011 5:37:45 PM PST by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: Jonty30
"What you do, if you are a serious scientist operating according to the established method, is attempt to falsify your hypothesis. Test it to destruction; carry out serious attacks on its weakest points to see if they hold up. If they do... then you have a theory that can be published, and tested, and verified by other scientists. If you don't, you throw it out."
Global Warming Fraud and the Future of Science - J. R. Dunn

The "scientists" who continue to perpetrate the global warming fraud approach their science in exactly the opposite manner as the approach described above. They formulated a theory based on political ideology (as well as the path of least resistance to "grant" money) and then do whatever they have to do with their data to "prove" it.

What the world has now seen with the expose of the "global warming" scam puts a new spin on the old saying: "Figures can lie and liars can figure." The discipline of science has taken a massive hit over the past two years and it could take many more years for science - - and scientists - - to regain credibility with the public. A lot of that burden must fall on honest scientists, and the first and most important thing they must do is scream for the heads of Michael Mann, Phil Jones, and the rest of the fraudsters masquerading as "scientists". I guess we'll see if they have the guts, integrity and self-respectto do it... No, I am not holding my breath.
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Clearly, we need to do something about "climate change", and fast! Here are some solutions proposed back in 1975 during the original "climate change" scam, the one known as "global cooling".

"Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to allay its effects. They concede that some of the more spectacular solutions proposed, such as melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it with black soot or diverting arctic rivers, might create problems far greater than those they solve... The longer the planners delay, the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality."
Newsweek: The Cooling World (April 28, 1975)
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Meet the new corrupt alarmists, same as the old corrupt alarmists.

10 posted on 11/27/2011 5:39:00 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: neverdem

According to the FT, we laypeople are just too stupid to understand global warming, or climate change.


11 posted on 11/27/2011 5:39:10 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: justlurking

Go to google.com and paste the article’s headline in the search field. Click the link in the google search results and you’ll be able to read the article without having to register.


12 posted on 11/27/2011 5:39:17 PM PST by vrwc1
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To: neverdem

There are no more scientists.

There are only politicists, and I do not believe anything they say at all on any subject.


13 posted on 11/27/2011 5:39:42 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: neverdem
Why climategate is a catastrophe for science

Just look at any number of FR threads where virtually any science is immediately dismissed as garbage all because some "climatologists" put an agenda before the science.

Science needs conservatives more now than ever.
14 posted on 11/27/2011 5:40:35 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: neverdem
It's in the Google cache.
15 posted on 11/27/2011 5:43:50 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: chris37

“There are no more scientists.”

They are political scientists. Now I know what the curriculum was all about.


16 posted on 11/27/2011 5:44:34 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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To: Jonty30

The first question to ask about a bit of scientific research- “Is it government funded?”If it is government funded and non-military then it is being done to provide politically correct backup for already determined political positions.


17 posted on 11/27/2011 5:51:13 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: neverdem

Why shouldn’t science be corrupted like everything else?


18 posted on 11/27/2011 5:54:26 PM PST by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: justlurking; Zuben Elgenubi; labette; Admin Moderator; All; samtheman; Jonty30; HangnJudge; ...
Enter the title at Google News. It usually works.
19 posted on 11/27/2011 5:55:46 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

The article minimizes what was discovered by the published emails, which included data being altered and disappeared in order to make the answers come out right. Some of the data which was deep-sixed can’t be re-created. Its gone.

So what was discovered wasn’t just that scientists have egos, which no one doubts, but that global-warming-partisans are vicious and dishonest. Most of us had figured that out too, but the emails left them naked and exposed in terms that the layman could understand.

But, except for this article, if you read the news or watch the news, if you listen to the average politician, you’d think this never happened. Politicians and talking heads talk about “climate change” with a straight face assuming with some justification that most people don’t know that its already been exposed as a fraud. This is how shameless they are, having been found out, they continue to pretend that nothing has changed. And to their shame, few “conservative” politicians are willing to call them out on their fraud. The political wind has shifted in our favor but even at that people are unwilling to confront the fraud out loud.


20 posted on 11/27/2011 5:58:57 PM PST by marron
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