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Top Marine: Fears of ending gay ban prove founded
Associated Press ^ | Nov.28, 2011 | ROBERT BURNS

Posted on 11/28/2011 12:51:45 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

MANAMA, Bahrain (AP) — Marine Gen. James F. Amos, the face of opposition in the military to lifting the ban on gays serving openly, now acknowledges his concern has proven unfounded that repeal would undermine the war effort. In fact, he says, Marines have embraced the change.

In an Associated Press interview, Amos called the repeal in September "a non-event."

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1 posted on 11/28/2011 12:51:51 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Marines have embraced the change. Not the Marines in my family. Wonder who he is talking about here.
2 posted on 11/28/2011 12:55:56 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

AP messed up their own title LOL


3 posted on 11/28/2011 12:55:56 PM PST by sickoflibs (Cain :"My parents didn't raise me to beg the government for other peoples money")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

How did he get to be “Top Marine”?


4 posted on 11/28/2011 12:56:18 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Embraced my ass. He is kissing butt for political reasons and certainly not listening to his NCO’s.


5 posted on 11/28/2011 12:57:27 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: sickoflibs

You beat me!

Lol...


6 posted on 11/28/2011 12:57:34 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: BunnySlippers

by being a “bottom”?


7 posted on 11/28/2011 12:58:01 PM PST by Maverick68
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To: Free ThinkerNY

That’s bullshiite, not in the Corps I knew.


8 posted on 11/28/2011 12:59:56 PM PST by izzatzo ( Anybody but Obamney and Huntsman. Cain looks better and better.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He’s wrong, of course. I recall there was at least one Navy bigwig who lost his position because of a “homophobic” comedy clip he had been showing to his men for years. Letting the gays “come out” has basically brought the political correctness in. They’re going to use it to slowly remove everything that has strength or machismo in military culture or policy.

This will be controversial here, but I am quite confidant that homosexuality is more a psychological disorder than alleged “genetics”. There have been no legitimate studies that have shown a connection between genetics and homosexual behavior. However, there IS a known connection between homosexuality and depression (even in more “tolerant” societies) and narcissistic disorder. This isn’t PC, but it isn’t wise to introduce such people into a military where you get your feelings hurt everyday by your commanding officer. It’s just asking for abuse by political correctness. Not to mention other issues that will come about with it.


9 posted on 11/28/2011 1:00:41 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’ve known many Top’s, none of which were Generals!
Watch your 6 !!!


10 posted on 11/28/2011 1:02:31 PM PST by TsonicTsunami08
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To: sickoflibs

Hahaha!


11 posted on 11/28/2011 1:02:53 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I don’t think enough time has passed for gays to fully infiltrate the USMC so that you would see the effects. Anyone who is currently deployed must have enlisted long before the effective repeal of DADT.


12 posted on 11/28/2011 1:03:16 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: Free ThinkerNY

That’s about the smelliest pile of bull Obama ever printed.


13 posted on 11/28/2011 1:04:34 PM PST by Da Coyote (Liberalism - when you absolutely, positively have no ability to produce wealth.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

In the future, I wonder where and how patriotic, moral Americans will serve their country when the Armed Forces become too politically-correct, leftist and corrupt for them to serve there?


14 posted on 11/28/2011 1:05:35 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Looks like some body got to the good General. I don’t know many active duty any longer, but the General’s ‘unfounded concern’ is not what they’re passing on to me.

I know two getting out, in part, over this.


15 posted on 11/28/2011 1:06:48 PM PST by x1stcav (I'm voting for anyone in 2012 but an Ivy Leager.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I think it is way, way too soon to decide what the ramifications are. It could be 2-3 years before they notice a gradual change in the nature of the new enlistees. Who is more willing to join up. Who is less willing... 2 months isn’t going to tell them anything.


16 posted on 11/28/2011 1:08:41 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
IIRC heterosexual infidelity was once a career ending offense for military officers.

The first noun to follow the word ‘Military’ is ‘DISCIPLINE’

Sexual activity is by its nature ‘undisciplined’ and homoerotic sex is a bridge too far.

This is most definitively the destruction of the US military. Planned and executed forthwith.

17 posted on 11/28/2011 1:11:44 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Gingrich-Cain 2012)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Too early to say. Give it a little more time and see what people think.

(Of course... what they say and what they think are not necessarily the same thing...)


18 posted on 11/28/2011 1:12:10 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I wonder how recruiting is coming along? I know of several military families who are have served for generations, but are strongly discouraging their children from doing the same because of the repeal. Of course that may have been the democrats plan all along, push conservatives out of the military and make it more left wing. As things stand right now, if push came to shove, the democrats know what side the military would come down on, and it wouldn’t be theirs...


19 posted on 11/28/2011 1:12:55 PM PST by apillar
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To: A_perfect_lady

It is if it affects the people in now and the quality of people willing to join up. Publicly you won’t hear most of them saying anything because they try to refrain from commenting on policy but privately they aren’t real thrilled about it. And why should they have to wait 2 to 3 years to see if a liberal social experiment works? Troop moral (and quality) should trump this kind of crap. Perhaps “ramifications” isn’t the right word to use in any case.

Cindie


20 posted on 11/28/2011 1:16:21 PM PST by gardencatz (I'm lucky enough to live, walk & breathe among heroes! I am the mother of a US Marine!)
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To: Abathar

There’s probably a reason why he’s schmoozing in DC and giving quotes to newspaper articles, instead of serving out in the field.


21 posted on 11/28/2011 1:17:47 PM PST by wbill
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I've a brother with two sons, 17.5 and 19.

His family is faith based but not particularly "organized religion" based.

Both his sons (my nephews) were strongly considering joining the military; in fact, the older one had passed all of the required testing.

At this point in time, both of them have now decided to go on to civilian tech school instead.

While the younger one has not spoken with me, the older boy asserts he is very uncomfortable with the new gay policy and will not enter a military service that supports it.

Scratch two for the military.

22 posted on 11/28/2011 1:17:58 PM PST by Logic n' Reason (N/A)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Should the title say UNFOUNDED instead of FOUNDED?


23 posted on 11/28/2011 1:18:50 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Title says “Top Marine: Fears of ending gay ban prove founded” but body of text says fears have proven “unfounded.” Title is in error at the source.


24 posted on 11/28/2011 1:19:38 PM PST by Blennos
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Would yoou expect any other politically-correct response from an inhabitant of Mahogeny Row?


25 posted on 11/28/2011 1:20:43 PM PST by attiladhun2 (The Free World has a new leader--his name is Benjamin Netanyahu)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Would yoou expect any other politically-correct response from an inhabitant of Mahogany Row?
26 posted on 11/28/2011 1:21:06 PM PST by attiladhun2 (The Free World has a new leader--his name is Benjamin Netanyahu)
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To: Abathar

A General getting political ? Say it ain’t so... /SARC


27 posted on 11/28/2011 1:22:54 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

so the marines are now a bunch of butt lovers? who knew

is that why they’re always hanging around sailors?

(obviously sarcastic but the meme should be pushed so marines will be revolted by anything evenly remotely close to this)


28 posted on 11/28/2011 1:23:07 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Does the UCMJ still have “conduct unbecoming” and penalties for adultery? I am sure that some “barracks lawyer” will challenge the UCMJ as “offensive”.

Where will that leave us?


29 posted on 11/28/2011 1:24:33 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
And of course there will be no discrimination in regards to accepting blood donations from the gay troops. The general would have no problem with being a recipient of such a donation of course?
30 posted on 11/28/2011 1:24:59 PM PST by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: Apollo5600
No controvery here. I figure that it's likely learned behavior, exacerbated by a chemical imbalance of some sort.

I also differentiate "homosexuality" with "homosexual behavior". Who you're attracted to is uncontrollable (I think) and goes back to my original premise. Who you have sex with is nothing more than behavior that can be controlled. For instance - married people who are faithful to their partners, do it every day.

It's a distinction, IMHO, that's completely lost on gays. They confuse the underlying premise, with the act itself.

Not that my opinion matters all that much, the whole thing has been so politicized that we'll never know the underlying causes.

31 posted on 11/28/2011 1:24:59 PM PST by wbill
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To: PieterCasparzen

I suspect he was told to say that by higher HQ in order
to remain on active duty.


32 posted on 11/28/2011 1:29:04 PM PST by RitchieAprile (Precious little in your life is yours by right and won without a fight..)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Here we go. Knew this was coming.


33 posted on 11/28/2011 1:29:17 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Here we go. Knew this was coming.


34 posted on 11/28/2011 1:29:34 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I wonder if the ChiComs embrace homosexuality?
35 posted on 11/28/2011 1:31:45 PM PST by Osage Orange (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Those career officers would support folks like Jerry Sandusky signing up for the Marines.


36 posted on 11/28/2011 1:32:04 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Ides are come, but not gone.


37 posted on 11/28/2011 1:32:12 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: ReformationFan

If you think this story was bad wait until the Marine Corp Gay Pride Day.


38 posted on 11/28/2011 1:33:30 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: sickoflibs
AP messed up their own title LOL

I'm glad you said that, I'm still scratching my head and wondering what I read.......

39 posted on 11/28/2011 1:36:48 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (ue)
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To: svcw

Obama’s puppet.


40 posted on 11/28/2011 1:37:52 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: central_va

Indeed. RIP, USMC. You were once something an American could be proud of. I’m sure there are still individual servicemen who hate this policy and who are worthy of our respect. But as a collective whole, I have no pride in what our military has become.


41 posted on 11/28/2011 1:38:18 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: apillar

I wonder how recruiting is coming along? I know of several military families who are have served for generations, but are strongly discouraging their children from doing the same because of the repeal

Right here.... 7 uncles, my father and my mos 0326, discouraged my son from serving these tools. If he wants to join after college , it’s on him. But he’s not doing PLC/ROTC or service academies, till he reads more and works on his own. He just finished some Hayek for AP economics and mentioned that our country is “turning into 1984” type of place. I think he’s getting the big picture.


42 posted on 11/28/2011 1:38:52 PM PST by Dick Vomer ("Free Terra Texas")
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To: apillar

Bingo... we have a winner. This is what will tip the scales...sadly, not in our direction.

However, our “pitchfork wielding” forefathers beat the world’s super power to win our freedom!


43 posted on 11/28/2011 1:39:51 PM PST by mikelets456
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To: apillar
"As things stand right now, if push came to shove, the democrats know what side the military would come down on, and it wouldn’t be theirs..."

I guess that is why so many service members objected when the Usurper was installed as commander-in-chief. Don't look to the military to protect and defend the Constitution. They either don't know or don't care.

44 posted on 11/28/2011 1:40:38 PM PST by Godebert
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Notice Logic'n'Reason's comment; I've read many similar ones on and off of FR. People with moral compasses are repelled by homosexuals in close quarters in the military. This Gen. Amos is either lying or part of the problem. The most sickening to me is not that Democrats/leftists want to shove the mentally ill perverted homo agenda on everyone, and espeically the military since they hate the military, but the fact that no Republicans have any guts. That's what is especially sickening. Why does less than 2% of the population - a tiny group of mentally ill perverts - control everyone else? I don't get it.

45 posted on 11/28/2011 1:40:44 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Dick Vomer

“But he’s not doing PLC/ROTC or service academies, till he reads more and works on his own. He just finished some Hayek for AP economics and mentioned that our country is “turning into 1984” type of place. I think he’s getting the big picture.”

Good for him. If I was a father, I would never encourage my son to go into the military of today. IMHO, I think the libs pushed this repeal through hoping it would reduce recruitment. Then, they can use it as an excuse to reinstate the draft


46 posted on 11/28/2011 1:44:26 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: mikelets456

Don’t worry when the South FINALLY gets the cajones to secede again, the New Confederate Army will not be homosexualized.


47 posted on 11/28/2011 1:45:09 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Marines have embraced the change”

Nothing to see here, move along folks.


48 posted on 11/28/2011 1:47:14 PM PST by tumblindice
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To: central_va
Don’t worry when the South FINALLY gets the cajones to secede again...

No one's holding their breath for that one.

49 posted on 11/28/2011 1:47:48 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: wbill

Except in the homosexual hive mind, there’s no concept of marital (or even “partner”) faithfulness, not in any sane sense of the word. Monogamy is the exception, not the rule.


50 posted on 11/28/2011 1:49:41 PM PST by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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