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Live Thread - NBC News/Tampa Bay Times GOP debate tonight on NBC
.2012presidentialelectionnews.com ^ | 1/23/12 | nate

Posted on 01/23/2012 2:38:27 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009

All four remaining GOP candidates have been confirmed for tonight's debate sponsored by NBC News, the Tampa Bay Times, The National Journal and the Florida Council of 100. The debate will take place at the University of South Florida in Tampa. This will be the first of 2 debates this week focusing on the Florida GOP primary on Tuesday, January 31st. Note the air times on the east and west coast.

Television Air Time: Monday, January 23rd at 9pm ET, 8pm CT and 9pm PT on NBC

Live Streams: (airing 9pm ET) NBCPolitics.com, National Journal, and TampaBay.com

Participants: Gingrich, Romney, Santorum, Paul

(Excerpt) Read more at 2012presidentialelectionnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; anotherdebate; bitterromney; debate; fl2012; flaprimarydebate; gopdebate; liarromney; liveflaprimarydebate; livegopdebate; mittcommie; nastyromney; newt; pettyromney; romney; romneyinhiding; romneyversion5; rupaulisfinished; secretiveromney; snarlyromney; tampa
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To: Irish Eyes

MSNBC panels saying Newt basically won. Stayed presidential looking, while Romney ranted and raved.


1,351 posted on 01/23/2012 7:57:40 PM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: Cboldt

I heard the 200 also but couldn’t make the math work ;-)

Newts command of facts is obviously better than my comprehension of them!


1,352 posted on 01/23/2012 7:57:42 PM PST by bigbob
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To: angelcindy
Here we go again with the attacks again

What the hell are you talking about "again"?

When have I not attacked Myth the Romulan?

1,353 posted on 01/23/2012 7:57:58 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Palladin

“Short, fat, rotund, white, aged LIBERAL”

If that’s what you think about Newt, why are you here? Go somewhere else, like to Paul.org or Romney.org, where ever they hang out.


1,354 posted on 01/23/2012 7:58:03 PM PST by Marcella (Newt will smash Hussein in debates. Newt needs money.)
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To: ReneeLynn

The truth shall set you free Renee. You can support Newt, despise Obama and still understand that Newt has flaws and one of his biggest flaws is his tendency to tilt at windmills like mandates enforced by penalties.


1,355 posted on 01/23/2012 7:58:16 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: PMAS

Brian Williams looked so peaceful and natural tonight. Almost lifelike.


1,356 posted on 01/23/2012 7:58:16 PM PST by glock rocks (I didn't leave the Republican party, they left me.)
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To: All

Top adviser to Romney: “if we lose Florida to Newt Gingrich then we will have to re-invent the smoke filled room”


1,357 posted on 01/23/2012 7:58:30 PM PST by tsowellfan (https://twitter.com/cafenetamerica)
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To: Irish Eyes

Not to mention Andrea Mitchell. Ghastly.

“I was talking tonight to top consultants on the Romney team ... “

Oh, were you, really Andrea?


1,358 posted on 01/23/2012 7:58:37 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: Irish Eyes
My final ranking
Newt (barely)
Santorum-Romney - tie
Paul

Dull Dull debate!
If Romney was looking for a knockout against Newt, he didn't get it! For that matter neither did Newt. Santorum did well then harmed himself by attacking Romney and Gingrich. He needs to define himself better and paint a vision. Paul did well, was only mildly anti-American.

1,359 posted on 01/23/2012 7:58:54 PM PST by Reily
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To: Girlene

If you’re going to have a live debate with a duct-taped audience, then don’t have an audience. Just broadcast it like anything else.

What idiocy.


1,361 posted on 01/23/2012 7:59:22 PM PST by txhurl
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To: nicmarlo

Yes, I noticed that ... very tacky answer about Ted Kennedy, never should have said it.

KInda sounded like a rich person... oh, wait...


1,362 posted on 01/23/2012 7:59:30 PM PST by altura
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To: Kenny

Does Andrea Mitchell have Swiffer(tm) on her sweater?


1,363 posted on 01/23/2012 7:59:36 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (Game on! Santorum 2012)
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To: Girlene

My Scorecard

Newt B+ ... started out poorly and got dinged by Mitt but recovered with calm, knowledgeable answers

Santorum A ... was allowed by Williams to appear Presidential after Newt and Mitt’s slugfest

Romney B- ...dinged Newt and answered some questions well, but appeared mean and petty at times

Paul B ...did his usual job and appeared amiable at time

Overall I see very little movement coming out of this debate.


1,364 posted on 01/23/2012 7:59:36 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: altura

This debate probably had a low viewership. Yes, agreed, Santorum had it more under control this time. No major gaffes, and just about everything he said was solid conservative, at least the most conservative on the stage. I know that will rub some folks the wrong way, but, well, thats the truth as I see it. Probably nobody in particular won this debate, though. Paul had good domestic points and lousy, lousy foreign policy answers.


1,365 posted on 01/23/2012 7:59:45 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (GOP is replete with those who run to the right (words), shift to the center, then govern from left)
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To: NKP_Vet

I have to say NBC is not welcomed to my house very often, but the panel is surprisingly objective. Ahnnnndrea Mitchell NBC News complimented Newts debate mastery and Eff Chuck Todd seems almost giddy...


1,366 posted on 01/23/2012 7:59:45 PM PST by bigbob
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To: CedarDave

Newt is actually getting good reviews and Mitt is being mildly slapped about. Lol.


1,367 posted on 01/23/2012 8:00:24 PM PST by Raebie (WS)
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To: little jeremiah

Newt’s answer was lengthy but some of what he said was there are some special interests who would rather preside over America’s demise and it is humbling to be in such a position as President and solve the many problems before you.


1,368 posted on 01/23/2012 8:00:30 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather (It's a Newtiful Day today!)
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To: Girlene
That answer by Newt was probably the best of the evening. That WILL be the difficulty of the future president.

I missed it. What was it?

1,369 posted on 01/23/2012 8:00:47 PM PST by World'sGoneInsane
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To: LibsRJerks; All

Andrea Mitchell is in dire need of a makeover. Yikes.


1,370 posted on 01/23/2012 8:00:57 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: tcrlaf

Did anyone expect Williams to say anything that would allow them to go after Obama? Even this fall, all the questions will be designed to attack the republican candidate and ignore Obamas record.


1,371 posted on 01/23/2012 8:00:57 PM PST by gswilder
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To: LibsRJerks

Interesting difference - I just love the term “human capital” when we are talking about people and employment.


1,372 posted on 01/23/2012 8:00:57 PM PST by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: Irish Eyes

Forcing Ted to mortgage his house...

In other words, I’ll bankrupt you or anyone else to win.

AKA...BUYING ELECTIONS!


1,373 posted on 01/23/2012 8:00:57 PM PST by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Yeah...that’s what I’m hearing too. Andrea Mitchell and CHuck Todd are basically saying Newt is a brilliant tactician! I’m very suspicious......

Hank


1,374 posted on 01/23/2012 8:01:09 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: Reily

Egads, look at Andrea Mitchell’s neck.

Is there a name for that?


1,375 posted on 01/23/2012 8:01:09 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: CedarDave
Now to the spin room with Gregory and the usual NBC liberals...

Who are shocking the hell out of me by saying Newt did very well.

Andrea Mitchell says tonight will have no effect on Newt's forward momentum.

Who are these people and what have they done with the real NBC staff?

1,376 posted on 01/23/2012 8:01:16 PM PST by Yankee (ANNOY THE RNC AND THE MEDIA: NOMINATE NEWT GINGRICH!)
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To: RitaOK; mrreaganaut; katiedidit1; mylife

Which is why I started my post with according to rumor. The link to the thread was posted up above on this one as well.

apparently it is an old inside the beltway rumor, I don’t believe that Newt would actually do that, however that doesn’t mean that Brit doesn’t believe the rumor or know more about what was going on.

Parents of children who commit suicide often look to outsiders to blame and that rumor, true or not, could be why Brit hates Newt so badly.


1,377 posted on 01/23/2012 8:01:20 PM PST by reaganaut (If Romney is a conservative then I'm the frickin Angel Moroni.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Yeah...that’s what I’m hearing too. Andrea Mitchell and CHuck Todd are basically saying Newt is a brilliant tactician! I’m very suspicious......

Hank


1,378 posted on 01/23/2012 8:01:23 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I was working late tonight, anyone have a link to a rereun?


1,379 posted on 01/23/2012 8:01:27 PM PST by womanvet (Lesser of 2 evils is Romney, but No man is justified in doing evil on the ground of expediency)
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To: wolficatZ

I was doubtful at 1st, but Newt pulled away with the debate towards the end.

Rankings:

Newt: 8
Paul: 7
Romney-Santorum: 5


1,380 posted on 01/23/2012 8:01:49 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
What does he use in his hair motor oil?

Synthetic motor oil.

Nothing about the Plastic Banana is real.

1,381 posted on 01/23/2012 8:01:58 PM PST by Eaker (Remember, the enemy tends to wise up at the least convenient moments.)
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To: LibsRJerks

Why is Angria Mitchell wearing those feathers?


1,382 posted on 01/23/2012 8:02:08 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: combat_boots

LOL

and then NBC points out Romney has $half a million dollars invested in Freddie and Fannie.

Too much.


1,383 posted on 01/23/2012 8:02:07 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: LostInBayport
One of the guys made a sound...

You mean he...he....he expelled flatum!?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!

1,384 posted on 01/23/2012 8:02:20 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: bigbob

Andrea Mitchell reported that if Newt takes off the Republican establishment will seek out Jeb or Daniels!

RINOS WANT WAR WITH CONSERVATIVES. And they are ALL in the Senate!


1,385 posted on 01/23/2012 8:02:30 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. NEWT 2012 / Rick Bachmann=Tool of the RINO/Romney backers)
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To: Palladin
There are more than 86 foreign languages spoken in the USA.

Yep, 86 spoken in Chicago and over 200 throughout the entire USA -- exactly what Gingrich said. I guess you missed it.

1,386 posted on 01/23/2012 8:02:49 PM PST by kevao
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To: Palladin; Jim Robinson

“That would be a hoot:
Short, fat, rotund, white, aged LIBERAL
VERSUS
Tall, colored, skinny, middle-aged LIBERAL.”

Say that to Jim Robinson. You need to leave.


1,387 posted on 01/23/2012 8:03:19 PM PST by Marcella (Newt will smash Hussein in debates. Newt needs money.)
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To: NKP_Vet
MSNBC panels saying Newt basically won. Stayed presidential looking, while Romney ranted and raved.

Agreed = surprisingly, the liberal NBC commentators generally gave Newt high marks, while agreeing among themselves that "people still don't know who Romney is..."

1,388 posted on 01/23/2012 8:03:19 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: advance_copy

Newt Gingrich is the smartest man on that stage. If any one of them is going to fix the mess we have in our nation right now, it is Newt Gingrich!!!

Chuck Todd and the panel
are saying that Newt came off as Presidential.


1,389 posted on 01/23/2012 8:03:24 PM PST by billys kid (Everything in Massachusetts is illegal)
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To: txhurl
If you’re going to have a live debate with a duct-taped audience, then don’t have an audience. Just broadcast it like anything else. What idiocy

An astute observation. However the media needs to get control of these debates before the general and that means the somber packed audience. No outbursts for the opposition (Republican).

1,390 posted on 01/23/2012 8:03:39 PM PST by Kenny
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To: TexasFreeper2009
This debate is a brief lull in the election. We can blame an entirely liberal panel for that. NBC is the winner tonight. NBC setup an environment and asked the questions to allow the few Rats watching the debate tonight to have a very enjoyable evening. I doubt many Republican minds were changed this evening. Maybe some undecided people, but the vast majority have had their convictions affirmed. At least that what happened to me. Mitt is a scumbag, Paul while fiscally good is still a wackjob beyond our borders. Little Ricky is not ready. Newt showed restraint. Enough of that! I want some red meat. Newt won, but didn't expand his followers, unless they were looking for boring restraint.
1,391 posted on 01/23/2012 8:03:50 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Maxine, I'll see you there. I'm not changing my ways.)
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To: Palladin

I see you support losers. Little Ricky couldnt even win his OWN state. He is the earmark king, endorsed Spector who voted for Obamacare...giving O the 60th vote to enact it..
Santorum joined Sen Hillary Clinton, Sen Lieberman, Sam Brownback in introducing the CHILDREN AND MEDIA REASEARCH ADVANCEMENT ACT which allocated a 90 MILLION dollar program to research the effects that watching tv has on children. This was a call for ANOTHER taxpayer funded study the thinks the govt knows better than parents on what is appropriate for their children to view.

http://www.cagw.org/newsroom/releases/2005/senators-propose-redundant.html

2. Santorum voted to raise the minimum wage and to have the govt be allowed to set wage regulations.

3. Santorum spent more than 1 billion on earmarks including..., Pennsylvania in 2005 received $483 million in earmarks for 872 projects, including $5.4 million for an igloo upgrade for an Army Depot and $5 million for a new visitor center at Gettysburg.

Read more on Newsmax.com: Santorum Pro-Labor Votes, Earmarks Ripe for Attacks

4. Santorum voted to raise the debt ceiling 8 times!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NO THANK YOU LITTLE RICKY. GO HOME TO PA


1,392 posted on 01/23/2012 8:04:00 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Texas Songwriter
Newt just took a 5 minute severe beat down by Romney.

That is what I saw.

It's not even debatable.

Newt did handle in an adequate manner, but it looked really bad regardless.

On another note, ya got to love Romney's, "Self deport" comments on immigration.

Even those drooling in cups didn't buy it.

1,393 posted on 01/23/2012 8:04:25 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Marcella

Thank you very much.


1,394 posted on 01/23/2012 8:04:38 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO.....!)
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To: katiedidit1

Can’t remember the question this second, but there was one where Mitt was looking as Newt was answering and I swear I could see in Mitt’s face awe at how well Newt was answering. It was one where Mitt answered well too, but Newt just did it in a more effective, flowing way.


1,395 posted on 01/23/2012 8:04:38 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: onyx

NBC just said Newt was less fiesty and more presidential. They also pointed out the Romney has been criticising Newt for his relationship with Freddy/Fanny while he has over 500,000 invested in them.

WHOOOT Newt


1,396 posted on 01/23/2012 8:04:48 PM PST by hoosiermama
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To: Palladin

Newt has always been Pro Life.


1,397 posted on 01/23/2012 8:04:48 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: prairiebreeze

AGREED!

BUT the audience restriction also prevented applause for the others, too.

Overall, a REAL audience is much better and helps inspire the candidates.
This ‘managed’ audience was like a football game with no fans!


1,398 posted on 01/23/2012 8:04:48 PM PST by b9 (NEWT all the way)
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To: Moorka
"In his speech at the conference, Mitt Romney said: “By leveraging public and private sector investment, we can increase our housing supply and support economic growth. “–Mitt Romney at 2004 NGA/Fannie Mae Foundation Housing Conference.

Key words: Progressive and leverage.

Wow, and now we also find out Romney invested heavily in Fannie/Freddie

1,399 posted on 01/23/2012 8:04:56 PM PST by cookcounty (Newt 2012: ---> Because he got it DONE.)
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To: Yankee
LOL! Don't get the debate here on the Left coast for another hour--and don't think I'll watch it. Much better to "catch" it here on FR.

That said, GO NEWT!

1,400 posted on 01/23/2012 8:05:12 PM PST by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement.)
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