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OBAMA ELIGIBILITY HEARING TO BE STREAMED LIVE STARTING AT 0900 EST
Article II SUPERPAC ^ | 01/26/2012 | Article II SUPERPAC

Posted on 01/26/2012 5:55:04 AM PST by RaceBannon

Article II SUPERPAC streaming live video and audio at this link


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012ballot; barry; bc; birthcertificate; certifigate; corruption; eligibility; fraud; ga; identitytheft; livegeorgiahearing; media; mittromney; naturalborncitizen; nbc; obama; sarahpalin; socialsecurity; teaparty; usurper
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To: morphing libertarian

George Romney was born in Mexico and I don’t know that he ever became a citizen.


761 posted on 01/26/2012 12:41:42 PM PST by OldEagle
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To: IMR 4350

Again, you stealth agenda shows. What was black AMerica forty years ago (and by the way, the race war did not materialize then either) is not the community of black people today. That you make such stooopid assumptions reveals an agenda in your posting.


762 posted on 01/26/2012 12:41:45 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: butterdezillion

nor was there a marriage certificate


763 posted on 01/26/2012 12:41:51 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: null and void
"Only someone willfully ignorant would deliberately lie about this. "

umm... am I mistaken or did you call me willfully ignorant AND a deliberate liar?...because I dont AGREE with you?

so- yes, that actually does make you an ASS.

When someone believes a different theory you say "I disagree with you because [here is my opinion]" -you dont say they are willfully ignorant and a liar (a DELIBERATE liar too)

And when the person you called an ignorant liar refuses to continue discussion with you, it is nothing to do with being "ashamed" it is because you were being an ass. And so when an ass writes you a private freepmail wanting to know your professional background and you choose not to respond, being "ashamed" has nothing to do with it. (hint: that comment is ANOTHER example of being a smarmy ass)

764 posted on 01/26/2012 12:43:42 PM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: butterdezillion
“Whoa! Wait a minute! That was one of the parts I missed. What was said about the supposed BC copies from off the web? Were those accepted as if they were authenticated and certified?

“Because if they were, then this changes my schedule for the immediate future.”

There were three separate cases here. The first two cases arguing that Obama was not NBC required that for ineligibility based on a non-US citizen father BC to be ruled by the judge there had to be a BC that was claimed to be genuine by Obama placed into evidence.

There was no need to authenticate that the images placed before the judge were certified or genuine, only that Obama himself says they are genuine.

Because Obama’s attorney was not there to object to these claimed BCs being put in the record (both short and long BCs) the lawyers for the first two cases were able to assert that Obama was NOT NBC because of the non-citizen father on those BCs (and their interpretation of the Minor case). So these Obama BCs were admitted as proving his non-citizen father by default and with out being authenticated.

Up until today Obama’s lawyers have fought strenuously against “production” of an “authentic” certified BC into the record...and so far that still hasn't happened, IMO (non-lawyer).

As I have said, this behavior by Obama’s lawyers screams “consciousness of guilt” that Obama knows he is ineligible!

765 posted on 01/26/2012 12:43:53 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Kleon
What I said was that, "It's dead in the sense that birthers have lost every intellectual argument and there's no possible way it will change the outcome of the election.

Since you are absolutely wrong about this, (and I am being kind by not saying you are LYING) why should anyone listen to you?

766 posted on 01/26/2012 12:44:27 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Brown Deer; All

Wait, Obama is on VACATION and couldn’t interrupt that for court?


767 posted on 01/26/2012 12:45:31 PM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Danae

Yes that happened to Nixon in 1960

BUT

since barry will NOT be on the GA ballot how would he have any electors from GA ???

how does that work ???


768 posted on 01/26/2012 12:45:58 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: RaceBannon
"Depending on the outcome of this case, Obama’s name might not appear on the Georgia ballot, and perhaps not on other state’s ballots either making one of the duties of his office…wasting time campaigning for nothing."

Well Race. That sure rings a pleasant bell.
769 posted on 01/26/2012 12:46:03 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: SteveH

Churchill was born in UK. Obama was at least arguably born in US so his case for Presidential eligibility is arguably stronger than Churchill’s. However there are some who argue Obama isn’t even a citizen. Churchill’s US citizenship is a matter of record, the Congressional Record!


770 posted on 01/26/2012 12:47:10 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: autumnraine

Barry had a golf game today...

cant go interupting affairs of state...


771 posted on 01/26/2012 12:47:48 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: rodguy911
My question is that one something this big why hasn’t Orly gotten together with someone like Mark Levin who knows this stuff inside out?I don’t get it.

There could be several potential "self preservation" reasons and "orders from management" reasons that I believe could be behind his and other talkers other than Savage staying away from it.

Also, until today, Orly hasn't had much success.

The official GOP response to any and all NBC eligibility questions since the 2008 election is a form letter documenting all the half truths and fabrications the state controlled/msm has expressed about how obama is eligible.

Don't look to the GOP for any solutions. They're not interested.

772 posted on 01/26/2012 12:49:38 PM PST by GBA (Natural Born American)
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To: presently no screen name
Ah come on! I learned that in fifth grade as did my siblings! It is NOT a mystery and VERY understandable. The fact of hiding record$$$, etc. shows they all understand it!!

You would be shocked to learn that MOST people do not know this. I would point out that if more people were aware of it, Obama wouldn't have even gotten into the Democrat Primary.

Most people think that the only requirement to be a "natural born citizen" is to be "born here."

773 posted on 01/26/2012 12:49:55 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Danae

At that point, the Georgia electors may well just cast their votes for Obama ANYWAY.

They could vote for mickey mouse too, but if Georgia says he is ineligible he is ineligible. I dont think they could count their votes. I would have to read more on Georgia election law, but in any case I suspect this is far from over. It should be appealed (maybe not?) and the publicity will not be good for the hopless one=Obie.

Today is another day in the days of our lives under a despotic usurper, who just got stung by a bee, we will have to wait to see if he is allergic to bee stings and suffers greatly or not.


774 posted on 01/26/2012 12:50:01 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: Danae

If he is removed, then write-in votes wold be discarded because he would not be eligible, IMO.


775 posted on 01/26/2012 12:50:42 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: butterdezillion
The Fogbowers express surprise that Orly did not object and let the attorneys in the first NBC case place Obama’s BC’s “in the record.” But it was not possible for Orly to object because she was not arguing the NBC case today and the first two cases were not her cases. She was required to remain silent during those cases.

The way I see it, the first two cases won by default based on the HI BCs being genuine and proving a non-citizen father.

Orly's case won by default based on proving that the HI BCs were forgeries!

These results seem contradictory together with two based on an assumption that the BCs are genuine and Orly's based on them being forged. But each was was heard separately on its own facts..facts that Obama’s attorneys didn't object to because they weren't there!

776 posted on 01/26/2012 12:51:09 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Tennessee Nana

Faithless electors vote for whomever they choose to. I suppose that could include the family dog, or Ron Paul.... It means anyone I think.


777 posted on 01/26/2012 12:51:56 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Your son CAN become President according to the Common Law Doctrine as outlined in Wong Kim Ark. The 14th Amendment was a declaratory Amendment according to the majority opinion in Wong Kim Ark.


778 posted on 01/26/2012 12:52:06 PM PST by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: Triple

Obviously, you haven’t attended to many Administrative Law Hearings. Regardless of seal or no seal, the Judge would not allow it to be entered as evidence if he didn’t rule it to be an undisputed fact. If no objection is heard, then its undisputed, regardless whether or not it has a raised seal.

From a witness at the Hearing:

“Court is called to order.

Obama’s birth certificate is entered into evidence.”

Later ...

“Evidence showing Obama’s book of records listing his nationality as Indoneasan. Deemed not relevant by the judge.”

Obama’s BC is an undisputed fact for the Court to consider and the Indonesian school record was denied admissibility.


779 posted on 01/26/2012 12:52:39 PM PST by SvenMagnussen (PSALMS 37:28 For the LORD loves justice and does not abandon the faithful.)
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To: butterdezillion

Correct. There was no trial. The defendant didn’t show, that means a default judgement. Because the hearing was to challenge the inclusion of Obama on the ballot it was up to Obama to show he should be. He didn’t show so he is not on the ballot and the reason is because he didn’t show...simple.

The judge in the pre-trial conf wanted to immediately enter the judgement and go for an early lunch but the plaintiffs convinced him to take a “streamlined” presentation of their arguments. That is why the judge got short with Orly.


780 posted on 01/26/2012 12:53:11 PM PST by GregNH (................GO PATS!.....................)
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