Posted on 01/26/2012 5:55:04 AM PST by RaceBannon
George Romney was born in Mexico and I don’t know that he ever became a citizen.
Again, you stealth agenda shows. What was black AMerica forty years ago (and by the way, the race war did not materialize then either) is not the community of black people today. That you make such stooopid assumptions reveals an agenda in your posting.
nor was there a marriage certificate
umm... am I mistaken or did you call me willfully ignorant AND a deliberate liar?...because I dont AGREE with you?
so- yes, that actually does make you an ASS.
When someone believes a different theory you say "I disagree with you because [here is my opinion]" -you dont say they are willfully ignorant and a liar (a DELIBERATE liar too)
And when the person you called an ignorant liar refuses to continue discussion with you, it is nothing to do with being "ashamed" it is because you were being an ass. And so when an ass writes you a private freepmail wanting to know your professional background and you choose not to respond, being "ashamed" has nothing to do with it. (hint: that comment is ANOTHER example of being a smarmy ass)
“Because if they were, then this changes my schedule for the immediate future.”
There were three separate cases here. The first two cases arguing that Obama was not NBC required that for ineligibility based on a non-US citizen father BC to be ruled by the judge there had to be a BC that was claimed to be genuine by Obama placed into evidence.
There was no need to authenticate that the images placed before the judge were certified or genuine, only that Obama himself says they are genuine.
Because Obama’s attorney was not there to object to these claimed BCs being put in the record (both short and long BCs) the lawyers for the first two cases were able to assert that Obama was NOT NBC because of the non-citizen father on those BCs (and their interpretation of the Minor case). So these Obama BCs were admitted as proving his non-citizen father by default and with out being authenticated.
Up until today Obama’s lawyers have fought strenuously against “production” of an “authentic” certified BC into the record...and so far that still hasn't happened, IMO (non-lawyer).
As I have said, this behavior by Obama’s lawyers screams “consciousness of guilt” that Obama knows he is ineligible!
Since you are absolutely wrong about this, (and I am being kind by not saying you are LYING) why should anyone listen to you?
Wait, Obama is on VACATION and couldn’t interrupt that for court?
Yes that happened to Nixon in 1960
BUT
since barry will NOT be on the GA ballot how would he have any electors from GA ???
how does that work ???
Churchill was born in UK. Obama was at least arguably born in US so his case for Presidential eligibility is arguably stronger than Churchill’s. However there are some who argue Obama isn’t even a citizen. Churchill’s US citizenship is a matter of record, the Congressional Record!
Barry had a golf game today...
cant go interupting affairs of state...
There could be several potential "self preservation" reasons and "orders from management" reasons that I believe could be behind his and other talkers other than Savage staying away from it.
Also, until today, Orly hasn't had much success.
The official GOP response to any and all NBC eligibility questions since the 2008 election is a form letter documenting all the half truths and fabrications the state controlled/msm has expressed about how obama is eligible.
Don't look to the GOP for any solutions. They're not interested.
You would be shocked to learn that MOST people do not know this. I would point out that if more people were aware of it, Obama wouldn't have even gotten into the Democrat Primary.
Most people think that the only requirement to be a "natural born citizen" is to be "born here."
At that point, the Georgia electors may well just cast their votes for Obama ANYWAY.
They could vote for mickey mouse too, but if Georgia says he is ineligible he is ineligible. I dont think they could count their votes. I would have to read more on Georgia election law, but in any case I suspect this is far from over. It should be appealed (maybe not?) and the publicity will not be good for the hopless one=Obie.
Today is another day in the days of our lives under a despotic usurper, who just got stung by a bee, we will have to wait to see if he is allergic to bee stings and suffers greatly or not.
If he is removed, then write-in votes wold be discarded because he would not be eligible, IMO.
The way I see it, the first two cases won by default based on the HI BCs being genuine and proving a non-citizen father.
Orly's case won by default based on proving that the HI BCs were forgeries!
These results seem contradictory together with two based on an assumption that the BCs are genuine and Orly's based on them being forged. But each was was heard separately on its own facts..facts that Obama’s attorneys didn't object to because they weren't there!
Faithless electors vote for whomever they choose to. I suppose that could include the family dog, or Ron Paul.... It means anyone I think.
Your son CAN become President according to the Common Law Doctrine as outlined in Wong Kim Ark. The 14th Amendment was a declaratory Amendment according to the majority opinion in Wong Kim Ark.
Obviously, you haven’t attended to many Administrative Law Hearings. Regardless of seal or no seal, the Judge would not allow it to be entered as evidence if he didn’t rule it to be an undisputed fact. If no objection is heard, then its undisputed, regardless whether or not it has a raised seal.
From a witness at the Hearing:
“Court is called to order.
Obama’s birth certificate is entered into evidence.”
Later ...
“Evidence showing Obama’s book of records listing his nationality as Indoneasan. Deemed not relevant by the judge.”
Obama’s BC is an undisputed fact for the Court to consider and the Indonesian school record was denied admissibility.
Correct. There was no trial. The defendant didn’t show, that means a default judgement. Because the hearing was to challenge the inclusion of Obama on the ballot it was up to Obama to show he should be. He didn’t show so he is not on the ballot and the reason is because he didn’t show...simple.
The judge in the pre-trial conf wanted to immediately enter the judgement and go for an early lunch but the plaintiffs convinced him to take a “streamlined” presentation of their arguments. That is why the judge got short with Orly.
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