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In July 1996, Mitt Romney helped locate the missing teenage daughter of a partner at Bain Capital.
PolitiFact ^

Posted on 02/02/2012 4:17:25 PM PST by fred4prez

"In July 1996, the 14-year-old daughter of Robert Gay, a partner at Bain Capital, had disappeared," the story reads. "She had attended a rave party in New York City and gotten high on ecstasy. Three days later, her distraught father had no idea where she was. Romney took immediate action. He closed down the entire firm and asked all 30 partners and employees to fly to New York to help find Gay’s daughter. Romney set up a command center at the LaGuardia Marriott and hired a private detective firm to assist with the search. He established a toll-free number for tips, coordinating the effort with the NYPD, and went through his Rolodex and called everyone Bain did business with in New York and asked them to help find his friend’s missing daughter. Romney’s accountants at Price Waterhouse Cooper put up posters on street poles, while cashiers at a pharmacy owned by Bain put fliers in the bag of every shopper. Romney and the other Bain employees scoured every part of New York and talked with everyone they could – prostitutes, drug addicts – anyone.

"That day, their hunt made the evening news, which featured photos of the girl and the Bain employees searching for her. As a result, a teenage boy phoned in, asked if there was a reward, and then hung up abruptly. The NYPD traced the call to a home in New Jersey, where they found the girl in the basement, shivering and experiencing withdrawal symptoms from a massive ecstasy dose. Doctors later said the girl might not have survived another day. Romney’s former partner credits Mitt Romney with saving his daughter’s life, saying, ‘It was the most amazing thing, and I’ll never forget this to the day I die.’

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To: cmj328
Glad he helped save the rich girl. A class act.

Rich girl? Class warfare belongs on the DUmp.

From 2002 to 2006, when Romney was Governor, over 80,000 Massachusetts babies were butchered to death by abortionists. Romney did nothing whatsoever to try to save their lives.

Civics lesson: Governors do not make laws. Legislators make laws. And no way in hell would the Massachusetts General Court have passed a law making abortion illegal!

151 posted on 02/02/2012 7:57:04 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Ramius; profit_guy
If Reagan were running today... FR would disown him as a RINO. Look at all the abortions he let happen. Look at the doubling of the debt. Look at his flip-flops... Heck he was a democrat and a union leader!

You guys are nuts, Reagan was the right winger of his time, he would be much farther right now, since he would not be alone, living in a world totally run by the left.

Romney is literally the anti-Reagan, a candidate so far left that we have nothing in the past to equal it. Romney is trying to move us radically to the left, undoing all of our decades of conservative advancement.

152 posted on 02/02/2012 7:58:34 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: ansel12

“Romney is at war with humanity”

Wow, hyperbole much?


153 posted on 02/02/2012 8:01:14 PM PST by WatchOutForSnakes
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To: profit_guy

“and have never understand how lefties can support Darwinism and homosexuality at the same time - it defies logic as they are diametrically opposed”

I don’t see that support for both is illogical. If it is caused by genetics it wouldn’t exist (as per Darwin, as it would severely reduce fitness), but all you need to get around that is to accept that the cause is not genetic. And to be fair no genetic markers have been found. The current thinking is some problem in utero, with some theories postulating a viral infection.


154 posted on 02/02/2012 8:03:49 PM PST by buwaya
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To: buwaya

It was to the left of Teddy Kennedy.

Defend Romney’s position, don’t keep ignoring it and pretending it isn’t extraordinary and unheard of.

You don’t seem troubled about Romney, you are promoting pretty well in this primary, I take it abortion and the homosexual agenda are not among your top issues.


155 posted on 02/02/2012 8:04:37 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: ansel12

If George H.W. Bush had beaten Reagan back in80, Reagan would have been out there campaigning for him in the fall. If Reagan were alive and healthy today, he’d campaign for the GOP nominee, even were it Mitt.


156 posted on 02/02/2012 8:05:07 PM PST by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: Flycatcher
I wonder why this self-aggrandizing puffery piece is being dug up again during the primaries of 2012?

Any ideas?

That's obvious, isn't it? It takes folks' minds off policy questions and makes them think Romney would be the right guy to take that proverbial 3 am phone call.

157 posted on 02/02/2012 8:06:36 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: svcw; little jeremiah; wagglebee
Profit guy has been aborted...

The ironic thing here is that he's only been banned from a website, and he'll probably feel as though that is SUPREME injustice.

Yet he cavalierly dismisses the snuffing out of 80,000 innocent young human beings.

Ping to little jeremiah and wagglebee.

This man is/was a lost soul. Sad, really.

158 posted on 02/02/2012 8:07:01 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: WatchOutForSnakes

Not hyperbole.

Two issues, the eternal soul, and abortion.

Romney has dedicated most of his life, and tens of millions of his fortune to converting Christians from Christianity, and promoting abortion.


159 posted on 02/02/2012 8:08:37 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: profit_guy

That is just so cute, not relevant however, as Limbaugh is not running for anything.
You said “lefties” vote for homosexuals and their agenda, I pointed out that Romney is pro-homosexual agenda and that you were voting for him.
So apparently, you are not bothered by Romney’s pro-abortion stand, his support of the homosexual agenda, his pro-gun grabbing, his pro-government mandated health insurance........
So if you want to pimp him be my guest, just don’t try and justify that he really is different than BHO.


160 posted on 02/02/2012 8:09:36 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen You up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: cynwoody

Agreed.


161 posted on 02/02/2012 8:09:47 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: buwaya

Guttmacher is a Part of planned parenthood. Why are you quoting them to pimp Willard???


162 posted on 02/02/2012 8:10:41 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Proud RINOmney Denialist since 2007!)
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To: sand lake bar

No he wouldn’t.

Put your fantasies away and don’t make up nonsense, imaginary combinations of times and historical figures for impossible, imaginary scenarios are childish.


163 posted on 02/02/2012 8:11:51 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: Yaelle

Oh I agree; he’s not the devil incarnate; but, he is unscrupulous and he has a huge well-financed organization to support and protect him.


164 posted on 02/02/2012 8:13:25 PM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: fred4prez

Thank you for posting this link. I am sorry there is so much anger & hatred now on Free Republic. . .it wasn’t always like this. The once conservative civil discourses have now given way to closed-minded rants. Oh, well. “Nothing gold can stay”. . .Robert Frost


165 posted on 02/02/2012 8:13:38 PM PST by weepnomore
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To: ansel12

I say you’re wrong. Maybe you should just let it go and agree to disagree. That’d be the honorable Reagan way. Oh, wait....


166 posted on 02/02/2012 8:14:10 PM PST by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Guttmacher is a Part of planned parenthood. Why are you quoting them to pimp Willard???

Man this thread is so 2007, the old Romney/pro-abortion/pro-homosexual/Reagan bashing crowd is here.

167 posted on 02/02/2012 8:15:09 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: ansel12

I don’t support Romney.
If we get someone better than Romney, excellent. I was for Palin, then Perry, then Cain, now I don’t know.

I am troubled by a lot of things, as you should be too.
But it does us no good to speak loosely, in anger.
And we need to do what we can do, not lose ourselves in fantasies of what we can’t.

God, give us grace to accept with serenity
the things that cannot be changed,
Courage to change the things
which should be changed,
and the Wisdom to distinguish
the one from the other.


168 posted on 02/02/2012 8:16:20 PM PST by buwaya
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To: ansel12

... An amazing concentration of RINOmney Pimps in need of the zot. Like bugs drawn to a flame.


169 posted on 02/02/2012 8:16:46 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Proud RINOmney Denialist since 2007!)
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To: sand lake bar

No, the Reagan way would be for you Reagan bashing, Romney trolls to quit with the games and childishness.


170 posted on 02/02/2012 8:17:01 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Because they have statistics that they didn’t compile, they just post them in a useful way. The data is independent of their delusions.

I would also quote a Soviet or Nazi source, if the information was interesting.


171 posted on 02/02/2012 8:18:22 PM PST by buwaya
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To: buwaya
I don’t support Romney. If we get someone better than Romney, excellent.

That makes Romney your man at this moment, and since nothing is going to change that, and you know it, I'll put you as a strong Romney man.

You seem indifferent to the homosexual, and abortion record of Romney, why is that stuff low on your list?

172 posted on 02/02/2012 8:21:15 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: buwaya

And to be fair no genetic markers have been found. The current thinking is some problem in utero, with some theories postulating a viral infection.


No, the current thinking is environment as in upbringing, family dysfunction, and getting molested. Links on the thread below, hours of informative reading.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2730140/posts

Not born this way: The facts, plus help available
Save California ^ | Various authors

Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 7:48:09 AM by scripter

Without any reputable evidence, the entertainment culture, uneducated media, and sexual activists have seduced today’s teenagers, in particular, to believe that people are born homosexual.

However, science has found no biological basis for homosexuality, bisexuality, or transsexuality.

Study after study has found the “LGBT” lifestyle to be unhealthy, with the highest rate of sexually-transmitted diseases, and higher cancer rates and earlier deaths.

While all people are worthy and valuable, the fact is people are not “born this way,” as a popular song insists.

On this page you will find:

1. The facts on homosexuality
2. Resources to overcome homosexual behavior and gender identity disorder
3. An important video message titled “Does God Love Gay People?”
4. Some personal stories from people who used to live a homosexual lifestyle

Homosexuality is not innate; no biological origin

Is there a “gay gene”?
National Association of Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH)

‘Gay’ gene claim suddenly vanishes
American Psychological Association revises statement on homosexuality
WorldNetDaily.com, May 12, 2009 — “A publication from the American Psychological Association includes an admission that there is no “gay” gene, according to a doctor who has written about the issue…”

“Homosexuality”
Facts About Youth, American College of Pediatricians, 2011

“No statistically significant [‘gay’] gene has been found”
Dr. Neil Whitehead, November 2006 interview

Peter Tatchell, British homosexual activist
Turn Signal with Kim Trobee, Focus Action 2008
“It would also be equally foolish to close the door and say that it’s simply down to biological factors, there’s no other factors or influences that impact on a person’s sexual orientation.”

Only 1.7 percent of the 18-and-over population identify as “gay”
Associated Press, April 7, 2011

Homosexuality is not healthy

“Health Risks of the Homosexual Lifestyle”
Facts About Youth, American College of Pediatricians, 2011

“The Health Risks of Gay Sex”
Dr. John Diggs, Jr., MD, Corporate Research Council, 2002

Nearly 3/4 of HIV/AIDS infections transmitted by “male-to-male sexual contact”
U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 2008

Link between Sexual Orientation and Cancer
Cancer Network, May 12, 2011
“Homosexual men were found to be 1.9 times more likely to self-report a cancer diagnosis than were heterosexual men….Although homosexual women did not have a higher incidence of cancer, these women did report lower overall health as cancer survivors compared to heterosexual women.”

Prostate Cancer Survival May Be Especially Tough on Gay Men
HealthDay News, May 16, 2011

The Negative Health Effects of Homosexuality
A catalog of research data
Family Research CouncilHomosexuals, Bisexuals More Unhealthy than Heterosexuals: Massachusetts Study
Americans for Truth about Homosexuality, December 3, 2008

Help for those struggling with homosexuality

The website Transformed Image has compiled a list of helpful links including:

» Support groups and ministries
» Published materials and videos
» Scripture for help dealing with sexual sin
» Websites of ex-homosexual outreaches

Additional help is available from:

Exodus International » | Stephen Bennett Ministries » | Michael Glatze »

Video message: Does God love gay people?

Are you struggling with homosexuality? Know someone who is? Do you think God doesn’t love people who engage in homosexual behavior? We encourage EVERYONE to view this message hosted by Jonathan Ervin, a man who has practiced homosexuality and has AIDS. He is joined by Dr. Will Honeycutt, Professor Darren Wu and Dr. Karen Swallow Prior. [14:17]

This video is by TrueLife.org. It can also be viewed here.

Stories from former homosexuals

» http://pfox.org/exgay_teen.html
» http://pfox.org/Our_Ex-Gay_Stories.html
» http://pfox.org/stories.html
» Stephen Bennett’s story


173 posted on 02/02/2012 8:21:24 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Flycatcher

PG’s comment was deleted, but his profile page is still up.


174 posted on 02/02/2012 8:24:52 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: little jeremiah

Who knows ? Based on what I have seen, having known children from an early age grow into adults, is that many of these are obviously so at a very, very early age. Its hard to see how such a thing can be programmed into a child by the time they are in kindergarten. Others, maybe not.


175 posted on 02/02/2012 8:25:59 PM PST by buwaya
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To: little jeremiah
Wow. You're right.

I checked it about 15 minues ago and his account page said: BANNED OR ZOTTED. You know, the typical ban.

Maybe the mods had a change of heart. Maybe, just maybe, they thought it would be interesting to show Profit Guy what it means to actually SURVIVE an abortion.

I hope the irony is not lost on him.

All the best!

176 posted on 02/02/2012 8:29:49 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: fred4prez

He’s a regular Superman. I’m still not voting for him. I’d rather have Wonderwoman.


177 posted on 02/02/2012 8:30:07 PM PST by carmody
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To: ansel12

I have no idea who I am for right now.

I don’t much like Gingrich or Romney, in reality they seem equally flawed. Santorum hasn’t a hope.

If there is a convention fight I would like that very much. Maybe someone better will show up.

And “putting me down” for anything is dirty pool.


178 posted on 02/02/2012 8:31:31 PM PST by buwaya
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To: Scoutmaster

Having some association and experience with Mormons, I was wondering if the girl might be a Mormon. The Mormon culture is a very protective group of people and I can see such an involvement. I admire some of the attributes of the Mormon society, However, I don’t feel comfortable with a large international singular/self centered religious body with the influence like the Mormons being in such a powerful position. IF I’m correct Smith was on such a path for domination when he was leading the start of the Mormon church. Of course I take Islam to be very much worse.


179 posted on 02/02/2012 8:37:37 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: ansel12

You’re wrong. Reagan was absolutely NOT the uber-conservative that he later became.

So sorry... And I’m not even all in favor of Romney... But your characterization is just unfair. I don’t know if he’ll make it to the general election or not... But Romney would be far better than Obama. I suspect that that’s what FR’s leadership actually wants: another Obama term. Well... I don’t. I will support any republican instead of Obama.

I think there are some conservatives that really do want another Obama term. The idea I suppose is that he’ll screw things up so bad that the nation will have no choice but to elect conservatives.

I think this is badly misguided. After another Obama term there may be nothing left to fix.


180 posted on 02/02/2012 8:41:41 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I'd give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: buwaya
I don’t support Romney. If we get someone better than Romney, excellent. I was for Palin, then Perry, then Cain, now I don’t know.

When I read that, I see Romney, you discard everyone in the primary, except Romney, and seem to indicate that you are reconciled to Romney unless something better comes along, you exclude Gingrich and Santorum in your post, and you know that no else is coming along.

Coupled with your heavy promotion of Romney, his abortion record, homosexual agenda, rationalizing everything for him, putting up a very dedicated defense for him.

It sounds to me as though you have already decided that Romney is your first choice in the primary as it is.

181 posted on 02/02/2012 8:43:04 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: noinfringers2

“I admire some of the attributes of the Mormon society, However, I don’t feel comfortable with a large international singular/self centered religious body with the influence like the Mormons being in such a powerful position.”

May I bring to your notice the Roman Catholic church, of which I am a rather insignificant member ? Its much larger and wealthier, just as centralized, and has a very long and extensive history of political involvement and controversy. Its the worlds oldest political institution in fact. In the US it has far more economic, political and ideological influence than the Mormons.

Precisely the same things were said about John F Kennedy at the time.


182 posted on 02/02/2012 8:44:07 PM PST by buwaya
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To: sand lake bar

“If Reagan were alive and healthy today, he’d campaign for the GOP nominee, even were it Mitt.”

...EXCELLENT point, too bad the whiners here don’t get that!


183 posted on 02/02/2012 8:44:20 PM PST by profit_guy
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To: ansel12

I am sorry to say this, but you seem to have a problem with comprehension.

I have no preference at the moment. Thats it. I don’t want to vote for Romney. I don’t want to vote for Gingrich. By the time we get our primary I doubt Santorum will be in it. Ron Paul is unelectable and is too eccentric to run anything.

Whoever is the Republican selected I WILL vote for, as anything is better than the incumbent.

I would rather however that the nature of discourse in this forum was better calculated to advance all our aims. Ascribing positions to people and denouncing heretics are all aspects of argument in bad faith.


184 posted on 02/02/2012 8:50:59 PM PST by buwaya
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To: Ramius

I was right when I said this “ Reagan was the right winger of his time, he would be much farther right now, since he would not be alone, living in a world totally run by the left.” Reagan became a formal endorser of Republican presidential candidates in 1952, he was there in 1956, and in 1960, formally changing parties in 1962.

Reagan became the greatest conservative leader, and then president, today Reagan would be much more conservative, he would be part of a giant movement with it’s own media, and with a much wider, powerful Republican party, rather than his having to operate in a totally democrat world. Reagan would have the tea party and Governor Palin, and most Governors, state houses, the Congress, and so on.

Romney is anti-conservative, voted against Reagan, campaigned as against Reagan, attacked republican senators as “Jesse Helms types”, Romney came out against Gingrich and the Contract with America.

Romney is of the left, he is anti-conservative.


185 posted on 02/02/2012 8:55:23 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: buwaya

I said that of Santorum, Gingrich, and Romney, you seem to not like them equally well, you seemed to put Santorum and Gingrich at 3rd, and 2nd.


186 posted on 02/02/2012 8:58:02 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: Ramius

I dont know if its even about conservatism, as much as it is about being in the cool kids clique.

If you say Mitt is a socialist, liberal, tyrant, fascist, commie, abortionist, pro-homo, northeastern RINO, then you will get a lot of people to come along and tell you how great and smart and true you are. Just throw the right labels at something and eliminate debate.

But if you say that in this one instance, Mitt did something good, you get called a Mitt supporter. Again, labels instead of debate.


187 posted on 02/02/2012 8:58:37 PM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: svcw

It may not pass your smell test...but it makes no difference to the truth of the matter, I will say it again, I had never heard this story before today.

Don’t be so judgemental and quick to imply a lie when there is none. Both both me and my wife first heard this story today.


189 posted on 02/02/2012 9:08:06 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: profit_guy

You seem to be supporting abortion/abortionists or at least are signalling that you are unwilling to fight against them. This is a position we cannot and will not support on FR. FR is pro-life. Period.

Those who try to promote the idea that Republicans should not fight against abortion are not like-minded conservatives and are not welcome on FR.

Those who signal their willingness to surrender to the GOP-e and support known abortionist/statists like Romney are not like-minded conservatives and will not be welcome on FR.

Those who support abortionist/statist/socialists like Mitt Romney are considered trolls on this pro-life, grassroots conservative site.

Take heed.

You are on probation.


190 posted on 02/02/2012 9:09:04 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)
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To: ansel12

The Democrats weren’t the left in the 1950’s or even the 1960’s.

The Democrats today are nothing like the Democrats of that time, certainly not in a cultural sense and for the most part not even in an economic sense either.

The usual 1950’s-1960’s Democrat would find the current types ideological obsessions bizarre.

Reagan entered politics when Democrats were running the House Un-American Activities Committee. Democrats started many of their now pet leftist institutions like the Peace Corps and Amnesty International mainly as deniable counters to Communist infiltration. John Kennedy cut taxes and raised the defense budget. The mass media environment was much more politically balanced in 1960 than in 1980.

I find your analysis ahistorical.

As for Reagan specifically, the important point concerns his character - his optimism, his pragmatism, his generous spirit. I like to think that today he would be making friends and thereby influencing people, and not pronouncing anathemas and scourging the heretics.


191 posted on 02/02/2012 9:09:20 PM PST by buwaya
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To: ansel12

I wasn’t paying attention I guess. I was not for Romney then, and I am not for him now.

Today is the first time I have heard of Romney and the entire matter with this girl and her dad and his help in the matter.


192 posted on 02/02/2012 9:09:34 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: buwaya

That was rambling, what did you find ahistorical in my post.

By the way, why do you post so much on abortion and Romney in his defense, but refuse to answer anything about yourself and abortion and the homosexual agenda?

Also, dismissing Santorum as you do, I get the impression that Gingrich ranks below Romney to you, is that correct?


193 posted on 02/02/2012 9:20:33 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: profit_guy; sand lake bar

Don’t be so sure:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2841299/posts

Reagan was known for pulling out of a party when the party left him.

If the Republican party goes for a socialist/aboortionist like Mitt Romney, then it has left Reagan and it will have left me.

To make myself perfectly clear:

I cannot and will not support the abortionist/statist/socialist Mitt Romney. Not today, not tomorrow, not ever!! And FR will not be used to support or promote him or his socialist healthcare plans for America!!

People who surrender to Romney and the GOP-e are not like minded conservatives and are not welcome on FR!!


194 posted on 02/02/2012 9:24:45 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)
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To: buwaya; noinfringers2

As a Catholic, you know that Mormonism is a non-Christian cult.

Mormonism is an anti-Christian religion, founded on converting Christians, mostly with clandestine means, what they call milk before meat, where they convince the (often Catholic) Christian that he or she is merely moving sideways, moving into another Christian denomination.

Actually that person is moving into Bishop Romney’s, antiChristian religion, a move which will require baptism into Mormonism.


195 posted on 02/02/2012 9:29:32 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: Jim Robinson

How many abortions did Reagan allow during his term?

Am I banned for that question?

Jim... I love this site you’ve built. I’ve been here for a long time. I depend on FR for most of my news. But damn... There’s been too many people... Good, fun people... That have been purged from the site. It was a lot more fun back then.


196 posted on 02/02/2012 9:32:22 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I'd give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Ramius

If you’re going to claim that Reagan was an abortionist just like Romney and therefore we should not object to abortion or object to Romney as the Republican nominee, then you are no better than any other filthy lying leftist and you will no longer be welcome on FR.


197 posted on 02/02/2012 9:35:41 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)
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To: buwaya

I agree with your adding to my remarks the Catholic Church which certainly has had more societal problems, at least present day,than the Mormon Church. My thoughts are about any religious organization that attempts to control the governmental actions/structure of our Nation.


198 posted on 02/02/2012 9:40:15 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: Ramius

Reagan was Governor of California, 1967–1975
California’s Therapeutic Abortion Act appears in statute books exactly as Governor Reagan signed it in 1967.
(Therapeutic abortion, a legally induced abortion for medical reasons, as when the mother’s life is threatened)
Ramius, this is not what Romney did, IE $50 abortions, no restrictions, even for woman as young as 14.


199 posted on 02/02/2012 9:41:16 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen You up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: fred4prez

Reminds me of another lightweight - Ross Perot who “rescued some of his employees from some nutjobs in the middle east ............

He was a REAL GREAT candidate too ... /s


200 posted on 02/02/2012 9:47:06 PM PST by CanuckYank
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