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No Matter How Much Food You’ve Got Stored, It Will Eventually Run Out in a Full-Blown Collapse
SHTF Plan ^
| 3-1-2012
| Joe Alton, M.D.,aka Dr. Bones
Posted on 03/01/2012 10:29:42 AM PST by blam
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To: PrairieDawg
Here are some of the changes one I increased the margin on the left so it would work better if someone prints it and wants to put it in a binder.
I shorten the section on the various types of beans and grains and added the following:
27. A Highly-Mobility 72 Hour Kit-by Ward Dorrity (Up Dated
64. Medical Kits for Self-Reliant Families-by Jackie Clay
72. The Large M17 Medic Bag
74. Antibiotics and Their Use in Collapse Medicine-By Dr. Bones
280. 10 Morale Boosters for any Worst Case Scenario-by Jack C
329. My SHTF Wartime Experience-by Selco
351. Selco on Signs of SHTF-by Jay
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posted on
03/01/2012 11:52:38 AM PST
by
Kartographer
("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
To: PrairieDawg
My apologies. I just installed diffpdf (windoze and Linux versions available) and can see the diffs myself. Sorry for the ping.
FRegards,
PrarieDawg
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posted on
03/01/2012 11:55:03 AM PST
by
PrairieDawg
(Bring out your dead - to vote in NY state!)
To: 556x45
Youll kill or be killed. Id rather not have to go that road..... The other option is to die and let your family starve. I'd rather NOT go down that road.
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posted on
03/01/2012 11:55:07 AM PST
by
packrat35
(When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
To: Larry Lucido
The need for formidable militias, say 10-20 well-armed fighters, can discourage a sizable group of attackers, when entering the foray from an unexpected front (as a support militia coming to the defenders currently under assault), and is even more of a need in the cities. I feel for the preppers in the city apartments, for example, who are good people, but would be facing some tough decisions.
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posted on
03/01/2012 11:56:15 AM PST
by
SgtHooper
(The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
To: DCBryan1
I have large dogs to serve the same purpose. After all, when the SHTF, they gotta eat also...
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posted on
03/01/2012 11:56:42 AM PST
by
packrat35
(When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
To: blam
Anyone believe its just a coincidence that post-apocalyptic and SFTF preparedness shows have become hugely popular on TV lately? And there is a flood of ads for food storage, and gun retailers.
Humankind either instinctively knows something has been set in motion, or we are just becoming overly paranoid. I hope its the later.
A few of those shows are:
Extreme Survival
Man vs. Wild
Survivorman
Jeremiah
Jericho
Falling Skies
And several reality shows from building shelters, preparing for bug-outs, and of course numerous gun themed shows.
To: Ellendra
There was an old joke about a farmer with a three legged pig.
Seems the pig was super smart and had saved the lives of the family members many times over.
When asked why the pig only had three legs,
the farmer replied “when you have a pig that’s that good, you don’t eat him all at once”.
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posted on
03/01/2012 11:57:17 AM PST
by
MrB
(The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
To: blam
The next day, a bigger and even hungrier herd arrives wanting your stuff. Some ranchers hang coyote carcasses in trees to deter the rest of the pack. Just sayin'.
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posted on
03/01/2012 11:58:15 AM PST
by
bgill
(Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
To: blam
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posted on
03/01/2012 11:58:25 AM PST
by
phockthis
(http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
To: SVTCobra03
Already have a couple bows.........
Not a cross bow though.
I own a compound and a recurve.....
Still you can lose arrows...easy enough. I've done it....at $10 or more an arrow...plus a $10 or more per broadhead...it gets expensive to lose or break arrows. HA!!
Bullets are cheaper!!
BTW, I've a brand new never shot compound bow for sale!! If you know anyone looking....for one...Send them my way.
FRegards,
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posted on
03/01/2012 11:58:54 AM PST
by
Osage Orange
(E tan e epi tas)
To: Ellendra
Here it is:
A traveling salesman trying to make a buck was driving through the plains of Nebraska when he decided to stop at a farmhouse coming up on his left.
As he was walking up the driveway toward the front door of the house, a pig with three legs caught his eye. It was just hobbling through the grass.
When the farmer answered the door and asked what he was selling, the salesman first asked about the three legged pig.
“That pig is the most amazing pig in the land, son.” The farmer said
“Last year, our house caught fire when we were all asleep and that pig ran in and woke us all up one by one and saved our lives!”
The salesman was surprised. “That is one special pig” He said.
The Farmer replied, “That’s not all. Last summer, that pig jumped into the pond and dragged my drowning son to safety. He would have died.”
The salesman was in disbelief as to how incredible this pig was. “One question. Why does he have 3 legs, is it from the fire?” He asked
“No son, ya see, a pig like that you just don’t eat all at one time.”
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posted on
03/01/2012 11:59:05 AM PST
by
MrB
(The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
To: Ellendra
"And another person tried to claim that you can eat any plant in the world as long as you eat it slowly enough. "Don't Eat Polk Salad
""The roots, berries, seeds and mature stems and leaves of pokeweed are poisonous," says Extension Food Scientist Jean Weese. There are at least three different types of poison in this plant -- phytolaccatoxin, triterpene saponins, an alkaloid, phytolaccin, and histamines.
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posted on
03/01/2012 11:59:48 AM PST
by
blam
To: blam; headsonpikes
The next day, a bigger and even hungrier herd arrives wanting your stuff. If you survive the first few herds, a collection of heads on pikes around the perimeter might "encourage les autres" to move along.
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posted on
03/01/2012 11:59:57 AM PST
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: Dead Corpse
“Making new brass or primers is still beyond current capabilities, but I'm working on it.”
If you plan ahead and store a supply of ‘white tip’ kitchen matches, you can easily make ‘cap lock’ muzzle-loader primers with the tips and alum soda cans.
A crude form of black-powder can be made with nothing more than charcoal and pig manure.
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posted on
03/01/2012 12:00:25 PM PST
by
Beagle8U
(Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
To: bgill
I would think if the new gang sees rotting bodies laying around a farm that they will give it a wide berth. Better to attack a soft target.
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posted on
03/01/2012 12:02:12 PM PST
by
USAF80
To: Ellendra
Yep, so as I line them up in my scope I will reflect upon the likelihood of just how many people they ended up killing, how much food they stole from starving women and children, to get themselves out of the city and survive day to day - all to end up at the end of my driveway (and eventually in pig slop).
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posted on
03/01/2012 12:03:11 PM PST
by
allmendream
(Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
To: DCBryan1
I have already begun assessing people I know for useful skills. Those with skills I need will be permitted to join up with me. Deadwood will be set adrift.
I have tried to get many I know to, at least, save up some for routine emergencies with little luck. I will NOT be their savior. Hard choices will need to be made and I am starting now.
Call me cold, but thats how it is.
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posted on
03/01/2012 12:03:26 PM PST
by
packrat35
(When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
To: MrB
I’ve also become a big fan of the 5.7x28 lately. All the positives of .22lr (except price) without the negatives.
I wouldn’t be my first choice at the “O.K. Corral,” but I’d prefer it for those impromptu hunting trip firefights any day.
To: blam
"The majority of this land will go to fruits, berries, and veggies. Youll get the most nutrients in terms of vitamins and minerals from these."
Sorry, but this guy talks like a hobby gardener. Those plantings are labor and water intensive, and vulnerable to disease and pestilence. Stick to basics. If you want to survive, focus on hardy proven crops successfully raised by small family groups. Crops that sustained civilizations in the Americas for centuries: corn, beans, and chilli. You can try growing your "fruits and veggies" after you've fought off the rabbits, dear, horn worms, aphids, Japanese beetles, and zombies.
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posted on
03/01/2012 12:03:36 PM PST
by
PowderMonkey
(WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
To: blam
"Pre dig trenches in out of the way places for quick burial. " Someone has pointed out something that I over looked. That's a good input...do it now while there is fuel for the back hoe. When your neighbors ask WTH you are doing you DONT tell them they are pre-dug graves. Tell them that you are building individual fighting positions (just kidding) or better yet, future site of your septic system run off or animal waste disposal of parts that the slaughterhouse doesn't want. Just be sure to dig 30 degrees outside LOS of LEO satellites and in full shade, under a tree when digging, or at night. Satellites are GREAT at spotting freshly dug ground, even at the shallow grave level.
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posted on
03/01/2012 12:05:09 PM PST
by
DCBryan1
("Forget the lawyers, FIRST kill the journalists!"- Die Ritter, die "nee" sagen)
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