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Now WH (staff) is under suspicion -- Questions over whether agents slept with underage girls
ukmail ^ | 4.20.12

Posted on 04/21/2012 7:40:31 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch

The prostitution scandal which has devastated the Secret Service could be set to spread to the White House. A senior Republican has urged the investigation into what happened in Colombia ahead of Barack Obama's trip there to extend to presidential staff who were preparing for his visit. Senator Charles Grassley's comments came on the day that three more Secret Service agents who had been sent home over the incident resigned from the agency. Also on Friday, Mr Obama received a personal briefing on the state of the investigation from Mark Sullivan, director of the Secret Service. -------- Mr Sullivan visited the White House late on Friday to brief Mr Obama in the Oval Office. The U.S. agents and military personnel involved could face criminal charges if is proven that they had sex with girls under the age of 18. When Darrell Issa, the Republican chairman of the House Government Oversight and Reform Committee, was asked if any of the men had done so, he said neither he nor Mr Sullivan could be certain. ‘In the case of the 11 agents, the primary determination is you can’t determine to charge or not charge somebody until you know whether a crime is committed,’ he said, according to The Daily Beast.

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To: InvisibleChurch

What definition of “underage” is to be used?

US law ranges from 16 to 18.

Colombian law is 14, apparently, for the circumstances that would apply here.


51 posted on 04/21/2012 10:02:51 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Cvengr

Barrack Obama = Jerry Sandusky?


52 posted on 04/21/2012 10:03:03 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Sherman Logan

I don’t think it matters what the local laws are. US sex laws apply to Americans traveling abroad.


53 posted on 04/21/2012 10:19:44 AM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: philman_36

Anyone employed by the US government can not have a sexual relationship with anyone under the age of 18 even if it is legal in another country. I do not have a link to that but I have read it before. Maybe someone else has it.


54 posted on 04/21/2012 10:20:23 AM PDT by eastforker (Don't be ornery for Romney, instead Root for Newt!)
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To: InvisibleChurch

And what about the guy at the top?


55 posted on 04/21/2012 10:22:31 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: yoe

“...is this man, Obama, legally allowed to run for president of the USA....(Obama officially ineligible)”

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Government has decided that the truth be kept away from the American people.

Ours is NOT the type of government that the country’s Founders had envisaged when they launched the Ship of State — it is no longer representative of its people regardless what our congresscritters claim.


56 posted on 04/21/2012 10:36:33 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: thethirddegree

Blackmail wouldn’t faze Obama — everything is up for sale with him.


57 posted on 04/21/2012 10:41:18 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: cardinal4

The thing is, like minds are likely to stick together. Some of these guys had been in the SS for years. So the higher ups are “mentoring” the newer agents. So the like minded individuals are herded one way, and those that aren’t are herded another way. So you end up with these advance teams who go to these countries and basically party on the taxpayer dime. in this case it appears what did them in was getting a bit too drunk or noisy and one guy getting cheap. If he had shut up and paid, no one would have gotten found out. We’ve already seen what’s going on at GSA.
Do you think that greed, corruption, loose morals and everything else aren’t to be found at every dang goobermint agency? Congress is a cesspool, it stands to reason the rest of the government is too. I have no doubt there are plenty of awesome SS agents, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t any who take advantage of their position to get away with all kinds of stuff.


58 posted on 04/21/2012 10:46:18 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

If you have the debunk, please post it with the names. Thanks.


59 posted on 04/21/2012 11:25:31 AM PDT by yoe
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To: eastforker

Information from the article: “Committee, was asked if any of the men had done so, he said neither he nor Mr Sullivan could be certain.

‘In the case of the 11 agents, the primary determination is you can’t determine to charge or not charge somebody until you know whether a crime is committed,’ he said, according to The Daily Beast.

‘Under U.S. law, if any of these women are under 18—I can tell you we do not know and Director Sullivan does not have actual contact/picture matched up to verify that as far as I know. When he does, I would expect a call, because that would be a relief to many of us to not have on top of everything else.’

Issa stressed that it was a crime to sleep with minors abroad - although there is no suggestion that any of the men who have been named did.

‘U.S. laws passed in 2003 and 2006 were designed to prevent sex vacations causing harm to underage women,’ the Republican Representative added. ‘We have to respect some things, but going internationally anywhere to have sex acts underage is prohibited under U.S. law.’ “


60 posted on 04/21/2012 11:37:41 AM PDT by Western Phil
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To: Ken H

Which US sex laws? They vary by state.


61 posted on 04/21/2012 12:16:27 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: yoe

yoe,
I can’t get the names. I went into my “History” and pulled up a couple of threads, but because they were pulled, I can’t get any info. Only this;

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2874104/posts


62 posted on 04/21/2012 12:31:46 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Ken H

Well, it used to be 12 in some Southern states, IIRC. That was how Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13 yr old bride.It was generally 15 in Spanish speaking countries, which is the origin of the quinceanera, the 15th birthday party, which meant you were officially marriageble, somewhat like the 16 yr old’s “coming out” party in US high society. A low age of consent wasn’t that uncommon, either here or in Latin America, but it was for the purposes of marriage and not prostitution.

Prostitution is legal in a number of Latin American countries, although not like the Dutch, who practically have state-run cathouses.

Still, this story makes no sense. As I said in another post, it changes: first there were “some” prostitutes hired by “some” SS personnel, then there were 22 prostitutes (one per guy) and now it says “at least one” SS member hired a prostitute?

Also, the SS people have gone from being the advance detail to being the dog handlers and other low level SS employees to being the people actually assigned to protection detail...to now being WH staffers?


63 posted on 04/21/2012 1:44:21 PM PDT by livius
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To: Ramius

Who knows? ...maybe “underage girls” in other countries is below 12. If so, then the SS men were legal.


64 posted on 04/21/2012 2:00:22 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: Sherman Logan

I’m pretty sure Congress passed legislation so sex tourists could be prosecuted under US law. I think it’s called the Protect Act.


65 posted on 04/21/2012 2:28:57 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: eastforker
Anyone employed by the US government can not have a sexual relationship with anyone under the age of 18 even if it is legal in another country.

Well I'm just going to have to see that law to believe it.

Let me know which one it is...@Federal Sex Crimes Law

66 posted on 04/21/2012 2:30:13 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: ncpatriot
Who knows? ...maybe “underage girls” in other countries is below 12. If so, then the SS men were legal.

Nope. The Protect Act of 2003...

Authorizes fines and/or imprisonment for up to 30 years for U.S. citizens or residents who engage in illicit sexual conduct abroad, with or without the intent of engaging in such sexual misconduct.[5]

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For the purposes of this law, illicit sexual conduct includes commercial sex with anyone under 18,[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_Act_of_2003

67 posted on 04/21/2012 2:39:04 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: Ken H

Wow. I never knew
Thanks for replying


68 posted on 04/22/2012 8:39:01 AM PDT by ncpatriot
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