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Almost Perfectly Preserved’ WWII Fighter Discovered in Sahara Desert — 70 Years After Disappearing
The Blaze ^ | 05/10/12 | Becket Adams

Posted on 05/11/2012 9:07:30 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway

It’s not quite the same as the opening sequence to “Close Encounters of the Third Kind,” but it’s awfully close.

The Daily Mail reports that a Polish oil company worker, Jakub Perka, has discovered an “almost perfectly preserved” Kittyhawk P-40 that crash-landed in the Sahara Desert in 1942.

“Despite the crash impact, most of the aircraft’s cockpit instruments are intact,” according to the report.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Unclassified; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: curtiss; curtissp40; desert; kittyhawk; ladybegood; lostplane; p40; unitedkingdom; worldwareleven; worldwarii; wwii
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To: tophat9000

—ot really this model had six .50 cal...—

Yeah, most of what I “know” about the P-40 was it’s capabilities at the start of the war. I compare it to the Grumman Wildcat. It was what we had when the war started but it was mostly replaced by better stuff darned fast, but still saw a lot of use in some theaters.

Also, I’ve not been into the WWII aircraft hobby for a couple of decades so I have to dust off the brain cells when discussing it. I may have missed a few spots. ;-)


51 posted on 05/11/2012 9:59:52 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

True, but there are a lot of stories of guys who ditched their plane, and once it stopped, got out and carefully closed the canopy, even if the thing was totalled!

At least, I would hope that is the case. It would be a great story.

They can track it down, I bet. Get some serial numbers (anything that could have been taken or stolen probably was) find out where the plane went, etc.


52 posted on 05/11/2012 10:00:46 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: Charles Martel

This thread caused me a look up an old movie that I saw as a kid, that I want to see again somehow. Not sure if it is on a DVD or not -

-——just fyi -———

Sole Survivor (1970) (TV) More at IMDbPro »
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When a bomber believed to have crashed in the ocean 17 years ago is found in the Libyan desert. A Colonel and Major accompany the only surviving member of the crew, who is now a General to figure out what happened. The General claims that he and the other members of the crew jumped over the ocean when in reality he bailed out leaving the others to fend for themselves. And while the Colonel just wants the whole thing closed, the Major insists on finding the truth. And watching them are the ghosts of the crew.

This story is loosely based on the discovery of the B-24 “Liberator” bomber the “Lady Be Good” that was found in the Libyan desert after the crew got lost on their 1st bombing mission to Italy.


53 posted on 05/11/2012 10:02:11 AM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: trailhkr1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sole_survivor_screen_capture.jpg.jpg


54 posted on 05/11/2012 10:02:14 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: cuban leaf

Haha, me too. I was entranced by the pictures. It is looking at history.


55 posted on 05/11/2012 10:03:55 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: freedomlover

I have been looking for this movie also. It is very difficult to find a CD of it in good condition. It was a made for TV movie to begin with...


56 posted on 05/11/2012 10:05:42 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: freedomlover

http://www.sell.com/234KPB


57 posted on 05/11/2012 10:09:10 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Thanks, I always wondered what it was named.


58 posted on 05/11/2012 10:09:17 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway; freedomlover

It was on tv several years back. Independent movie channel on Direct TV.


59 posted on 05/11/2012 10:12:14 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: Clara Lou
You need to go here some time.
60 posted on 05/11/2012 10:13:45 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: trailhkr1

Canopy appears to be closed.


61 posted on 05/11/2012 10:14:23 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Interesting that the prop was feathered yet under a lot of power when he hit the ground. Loss of oil pressure?


62 posted on 05/11/2012 10:17:23 AM PDT by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Several yrs. ago I was in the waiting room of a medical lab waiting my turn.
An old couple walked in. The man wearing a ‘P-51’ emblazoned ball cap.

I went over sat down next to him, thanked him for his service and started talking about the plane.

He told me he loved flying the P-51 but his real love was with the Thunderbolt.
His turn for blood work came up and I talked to his wife for a few minutes.

She told me her husband had told her that if he could have he would have married that P-47.


63 posted on 05/11/2012 10:19:32 AM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

I just found it on Google Video for online viewing

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7574338161920794843&hl=en


64 posted on 05/11/2012 10:19:47 AM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: trailhkr1

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7574338161920794843&hl=en


65 posted on 05/11/2012 10:21:01 AM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: cynwoody

Thanks for the direct link to the original story. Many more pictures here. 200 miles to the nearest town?....Jeez!


66 posted on 05/11/2012 10:22:36 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Wasn’t there a movie made about that B24?


67 posted on 05/11/2012 10:22:46 AM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: Lowell1775
Next time any of us think we got problems.....think of Sgt. Copping's last few days in earth. May God have rested his soul.

What you said.

68 posted on 05/11/2012 10:23:19 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Disambiguator

Darn. Idaho is a long way from Texas.


69 posted on 05/11/2012 10:23:37 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Boiler Plate

I don’t recall a movie about the B-24 Lady Be Good. Many documentaries were done. Sole Survivor used a B-25 Mitchell bomber.


70 posted on 05/11/2012 10:24:49 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: trailhkr1

I remember that movie!


71 posted on 05/11/2012 10:27:53 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Not Romney - Not ever!)
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To: Clara Lou
Darn. Idaho is a long way from Texas.

Yes, but it's a friendly place. :^)

72 posted on 05/11/2012 10:27:55 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: trailhkr1

I remember that movie as well. The one line I recall was one of the ghosts listening to a Dodgers Baseball game on the radio the “recovery crew” had brought and puzzled by how “they moved Brooklyn to Los Angeles” as though the entire borough had been transported out west not just the team.


73 posted on 05/11/2012 10:30:22 AM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: unkus
Perfect post for this thread this board

Pilot Ronald Regan does a P40 Warhawk recognition film

http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675043014_Japanese-Mitsubishi-A6M-Zero_P-40-Warhawk_Pilot-Ronald-Regan_recognition-and-similarity


74 posted on 05/11/2012 10:32:24 AM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: rlmorel
As I read this thread, I keep thinking of the Twilight zone episode, "King nine will not return".


75 posted on 05/11/2012 10:34:28 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: freedomlover

Thanks!....I bookmarked it for later...


76 posted on 05/11/2012 10:35:06 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: cuban leaf

Great pics...gonna have to check that episode out, it has been a long time.


77 posted on 05/11/2012 10:36:39 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: cuban leaf

I remember that Twilight Zone episode also...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Nine_Will_Not_Return


78 posted on 05/11/2012 10:46:17 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: rlmorel

It’s one of my favorites. It has some excellent plot twists and, as with so many TZ episodes, a great ending.


79 posted on 05/11/2012 10:47:48 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway; Thorliveshere

—I remember that Twilight Zone episode also...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Nine_Will_Not_Return

Hey Thor, the wiki article says the TZ episode was inspired by the discovery of the Lady Be Good B-24. Is that the one in your post?

Looks like this has gone full circle. Discovery inspires show, 53 years later, another discovery harkens back to show.


80 posted on 05/11/2012 10:51:48 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway; Thorliveshere

Just answered my own question:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Be_Good_%28aircraft%29


81 posted on 05/11/2012 10:52:47 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Vinnie

great story!...The P-47 was so powerful it was like a small fast bomber.


82 posted on 05/11/2012 10:57:41 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: trailhkr1

From Wili

The Lady Be Good incident was indirectly referenced in a couple of television shows and movies. Sole Survivor, a 1970 made-for-TV movie, was about the ghosts of a B-25 bomber crew that crashed in the Libyan desert.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sole_Survivor_(1970_film)


83 posted on 05/11/2012 10:59:19 AM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

—The P-47 was so powerful it was like a small fast bomber.—

I used to fly it in internet WWII battles. If you had some altitude and came up against german (or japanes, for that matter) planes and needed to bug out, you could just drop like a rock and usually make it to safety before anyone caught up.


84 posted on 05/11/2012 11:01:08 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Boiler Plate

So was the TZ episode.

This is really pretty interesting. One of the more fun threads here.


85 posted on 05/11/2012 11:02:13 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

That is the one I saw. I couldn’t remeber the type of aircraft.


86 posted on 05/11/2012 11:03:42 AM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
What a tragic and compelling bit of history. Fascinating that this plane survived nearly untouched for all these years. Hope they can locate the missing pilot's remains.

Thanks for posting.

87 posted on 05/11/2012 11:07:42 AM PDT by Kolb (Compone Accomoda Supera)
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To: Kolb

It still goes to show there are areas of the world that are very desolate and no one ventures into...


88 posted on 05/11/2012 11:17:28 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Lowell1775

Thanks for the Rest of the Story.


89 posted on 05/11/2012 11:22:38 AM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: cuban leaf

Have you flown the P-38 yet on the computer?


90 posted on 05/11/2012 11:31:05 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Vinnie

Few pay much attention, but the A-10 is named after the P-47.

Fairchild Republic A-10 Thunderbolt II

The Jug and The Warthog.


91 posted on 05/11/2012 11:35:14 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

—Have you flown the P-38 yet on the computer?—

Yep. I’ve flown pretty much everything produced by everyone that produced planes during WWII. Even some obscure Italian planes.

I didn’t like the P-38 all that much. Twin engine fighters were too much of a compromise. I liked ‘em for ground attack, though.


92 posted on 05/11/2012 11:43:35 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
This was a fun one. It turned on a dime but its guns were almost useless. It was fun to suck P-51's and FW190's in and get them over my base's AAA.


93 posted on 05/11/2012 11:47:10 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf
Here's the picture.
94 posted on 05/11/2012 11:48:29 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: ltc8k6

I did not know that, but it explains why the warthog is my favorite “modern” warplane. It really harkens back to the P47 for me. I did not know it was intentional.

I used to have a warthog flight simulator. It was a lot of fun.


95 posted on 05/11/2012 11:50:41 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Good ole Lady be good.

When I was at Wheelus AFB in Tripoli her propellers stood at the front gate back in 1967.

I was there when we were kicked out of Wheelus by a young punk named Quadaffi.

Lots of memories come back to mind when I hear the name of that good old plane. I always wonder if they brought the propellers back to the USA when we finally closed the base.


96 posted on 05/11/2012 11:51:15 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: DH
Did you ever see the made-for-TV movie "Sole Survivor" with Richard Basehart and William Shatner?

It was a loosely-based story about the "Lady Be Good". Very hard to find but entertaining overall ...

97 posted on 05/11/2012 11:59:51 AM PDT by BlueLancer ("No friend ever served me, and no enemy ever wronged me, whom I have not repaid in full" (Sulla))
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To: Vinnie
She told me her husband had told her that if he could have he would have married that P-47.

There are stories of the jug's coming in with holes in them big enough to crawl through, wings shortened by several inches and cylinders shot off but they still came home.

I don't blame them for having a deep affection for that bird.

98 posted on 05/11/2012 12:09:44 PM PDT by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway; freedomlover
Here is the 1973 "TV Movie of the Week" that I mentioned above. Evidently it was released on VHS at some point - and was renamed from "Death Race" to "State of Division" (probably to avoid conflicting with the later film series by a similar name).

I'd forgotten that the Nazi tanker was played by Lloyd Bridges!

99 posted on 05/11/2012 12:38:50 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: tophat9000

You’re right. I remember now....the outer 50s were just recessed in the leading edge and not seen in profile like the others.


100 posted on 05/11/2012 1:06:27 PM PDT by Gaffer
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