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Jeb Bush Says His Father and Reagan Would Lose Out in Today’s GOP [Bushes Please Go Away!]
ABCNews ^ | June 11, 2012

Posted on 06/11/2012 11:07:08 PM PDT by Steelfish

Jun 11, 2012 Jeb Bush Says His Father and Reagan Would Lose Out in Today’s GOP

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush today said that both Ronald Reagan and his father, George H.W. Bush, would have a hard time getting nominated by the more conservative voters in today’s Republican Party.

“Ronald Reagan would have, based on his record of finding accommodation, finding some degree of common ground, as would my dad, they would have a hard time if you define the Republican party, and I don’t, as having an orthodoxy that doesn’t allow for disagreement, doesn’t allow for finding some common ground,” Bush said, according to Buzzfeed, which reported Bush’s giving the comments at the headquarters of Bloomberg LP in New York City.

Bush, a much-discussed contender to be Mitt Romney’s running mate, said he sees the ultra-conservative and partisan standards of today’s GOP as “disturbing,” but called “this dysfunction … temporary.” “It’s just a different environment left and right,” Bush said.

During his “dad’s time and Ronald Reagan’s time,” Bush said, they “got a lot of stuff done with a lot of bipartisan support,” according to the report, adding that Reagan “would be criticized for doing the things that he did.”

Bush railed against both sides, but blamed President Obama for much of the clashing.

“His first year could have been a year of enormous accomplishment had he focused on things where there was more common ground,” Bush said, arguing that he believed Obama made the “purely political calculation” to run a more partisan administration.

This is the latest in a series of comments Bush has made recently either criticizing his party or expressing policy points openly breaking with the presumptive GOP nominee. Bush separated himself from Romney on the issue of illegal immigrants already in the United States.

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To: woofie

Can this help?

. . . . . Although Soros doesn’t (yet) own the Republican Party, like he does the Democrats, make no mistake, his tentacles are spread throughout the Republican Party as well.

Soros is a partner in the Carlyle Group where he has invested more than 100 million dollars. According to an article by The Baltimore Chronicle’s Alice Cherbonnier, the Carlye Group is run by “a veritable who’s who of former Republican leaders,” from CIA man Frank Carlucci, to CIA head [and ex-President] George Bush, Sr.

yadda, yadda, yadda.


61 posted on 06/12/2012 3:58:08 AM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: CitizenUSA
All I ask is that the moderate/centrists toss a bone my way once in awhile instead of doing everything they can to kiss up during elections and then flip me the bird once they're in office!

I agree with you. It's the difference of a head-on crash at 80MPH, versus a head-on crash at 55MPH.

And, what a choice we have this cycle, don't we?

On one hand, we have Bishop Willard from Planet Kolob.

On the other, the illegitimate, bisexual, Marxist Kenyan Muslim Usurper.

Both appoint activist judges, both support the Lavendar Mafia, both grab guns, both support the murder of babies, both want socialized medicine.

"Republicans vs. Democrats: Maybe A Dime's Worth Of Difference"

~ Larry Elder, "The Ten Things You Can't Say In America"

63 posted on 06/12/2012 4:10:26 AM PDT by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: F15Eagle
Nothing like “a credible United Nations ... to fulfill the promise and vision of the UN’s founders”

Yeah, tell it to the Kurds, who got sold out by Poppy RINO, countless innocent lives were lost, including Iraqi citizens who were tortured, raped, and murdered by Saddam and his two depraved offspring Uday and Qusay, all because GHWB left the job undone in the first Gulf War, and left Saddam in place for over a decade until GWB decided to take out one leg of that three-legged 'Axis of Evil'.

Screw you GHWB, and that goes for your 'New World Order' too.
64 posted on 06/12/2012 4:18:00 AM PDT by mkjessup (Eternal Vigilance (aka FReeper Tom Hoefling) has my vote for President in 2012.)
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To: Steelfish

Hey Jebby, let me educate you. Reagan almost didn’t become the nominee.....in 1980. Remember “he’s too old” “he’s too extreme?” Yes, all that was said by the Country Club GOP establishment and their handpicked candidate in 1980 who was...let me guess....last name was BUSH. Oh, and remember this one....”voodoo economics?” Who said that?


65 posted on 06/12/2012 4:18:41 AM PDT by stratman1969
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To: Steelfish
Jeb Bush Says His Father and Reagan Would Lose Out in Today’s GOP

Admittedly, he's half right.

66 posted on 06/12/2012 4:20:22 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: Steelfish

This is pure nonsense.

The truth is, The US has been steadily moving Leftward since FDR. RR would be considered far more conservative today.

GHWB was never a conservative. He was a card carrying, fully entitled member of the ruling class, neither liberal nor conservative.


67 posted on 06/12/2012 4:27:27 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Old Sarge
I agree with you. No more dynasties. No Bushes, no Kennedys, no Clintons, no Rockefellers, no Jacksons.

Absolutely Sarge, America was founded with the specific intent to ELIMINATE and AVOID royal (and not so royal) dynasties, our ancestors shed their blood to be free of monarchies, why is this concept so difficult for anyone to understand?

Btw, my best to you and yours Sarge, hope your week is great.
68 posted on 06/12/2012 4:27:38 AM PDT by mkjessup (Eternal Vigilance (aka FReeper Tom Hoefling) has my vote for President in 2012.)
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To: Steelfish

jeb bush is a progressive idiot, open borders, citizen rights for illegal invaders, amnesty lover.

LLS


69 posted on 06/12/2012 4:31:02 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: mkjessup

Thank you! The Bride and I are enjoying a week without kids, heh heh...


70 posted on 06/12/2012 4:33:54 AM PDT by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: woofie
Reagan said that he would NEVER grant Amnesty again... just like the 3 dollars in cuts for every new dollar of spending the dims promised him... amnesty was a lie. Reagan had no problem with calling liars out... he also understood that he could not trust the dims. The bush clan are stealth dims... even Laura who supports the murder of the most innocent. I worked hard for President Bush... I will NEVER vote for another Bush as long as I live.

LLS

71 posted on 06/12/2012 4:35:29 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Steelfish

Who needs the old guard when we have Allen West today?


72 posted on 06/12/2012 4:40:11 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: Old Sarge

I find it really offensive when moderate Republicans accuse people like me of being purists. I’m not the one running for office on a small government platform. They want our votes, but it’s clear to me they are laughing behind our backs.

Why am I the purist for asking them to deliver some small part of what they promise? Have the Bush fans completely forgotten it was W who crammed the prescription drug benefit through against the wishes of many in his own party? Have we forgotten all the Bushes can’t wait to cram amnesty down our throats the same way, even as they lie to our faces by saying waiving penalties is not an amnesty? Why am I a purist for daring to state maybe America doesn’t need to be the world’s police? Yet, the Bushes and McCains can’t apparently avoid intervening in other people’s affairs everywhere.

All W did was expand government and he started with Republican control of Congress! Please show me where I’m wrong. I ask again. How did the party of small government deliver smaller government? They had their opportunity and the truth came out. They lied to us. People like Boehner have no intention of EVER making significant cuts.

Again. The Republicans finally held Congress and the Presidency under W, and what did they do? They squandered decades of effort by conservatives to reverse the expansion of government. Result: President Obama.

No. I say the Bushes are out of touch patricians who deserve no loyalty whatsoever from conservatives. They are part of the problem, not a solution to this nation’s ills.


73 posted on 06/12/2012 4:41:23 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Old Sarge

I find it really offensive when moderate Republicans accuse people like me of being purists. I’m not the one running for office on a small government platform. They want our votes, but it’s clear to me they are laughing behind our backs.

Why am I the purist for asking them to deliver some small part of what they promise? Have the Bush fans completely forgotten it was W who crammed the prescription drug benefit through against the wishes of many in his own party? Have we forgotten all the Bushes can’t wait to cram amnesty down our throats the same way, even as they lie to our faces by saying waiving penalties is not an amnesty? Why am I a purist for daring to state maybe America doesn’t need to be the world’s police? Yet, the Bushes and McCains can’t apparently avoid intervening in other people’s affairs everywhere.

All W did was expand government and he started with Republican control of Congress! Please show me where I’m wrong. I ask again. How did the party of small government deliver smaller government? They had their opportunity and the truth came out. They lied to us. People like Boehner have no intention of EVER making significant cuts.

Again. The Republicans finally held Congress and the Presidency under W, and what did they do? They squandered decades of effort by conservatives to reverse the expansion of government. Result: President Obama.

No. I say the Bushes are out of touch patricians who deserve no loyalty whatsoever from conservatives. They are part of the problem, not a solution to this nation’s ills.


74 posted on 06/12/2012 4:42:42 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Steelfish

Jeb misunderstands conservatives, I think.

I want a political leader who personally and professionally espouses conservative views - that believes them to his or her core. Politics (theoretically) is an art of compromise, cajoling unlike-minded people into doing something close to right. Realistically, the only way a conservative could get 95% of what he wanted was to rule as a dictator, much like our present predicament (from the other side).

Just my $.02, naturally.


75 posted on 06/12/2012 4:51:53 AM PDT by MortMan (Americans are a people increasingly separated by our connectivity.)
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To: Steelfish; All
Here are JB's actual comments: “Ronald Reagan would have, based on his record of finding accommodation, finding some degree of common ground, as would my dad — they would have a hard time if you define the Republican party — and I don’t — as having an orthodoxy that doesn’t allow for disagreement, doesn’t allow for finding some common ground,” Bush said, adding that he views the hyper-partisan moment as “temporary.”

Commentary from another site: BuzzFeed staff did not provide the comment where Bush said, as they paraphrased, “that both Ronald Reagan and his father George H. W. Bush would have had a difficult time getting nominated by today’s ultra-conservative Republican Party.” Jeb never called his party “ultra-conservative” (at least not in any text they provided).

But, golly gee whiz, the headline fits the narrative as does the line quoted above. Guess they missed that little word, “if.” Jeb never said the Republican Party had an orthodoxy, merely offered a hypothetical view of the party — which he singled by that word.

In the very article, the BuzzFeed staff did report that, “Bush also had praise for Rep. Paul Ryan for proposing a budget and disdain for Democrats for refusing to engage it.” Doesn’t seem that a man who praises a man like Ryan, widely admired in Republican circles, would also call the party “ultra-conservative.”

Bush, they do note, “also blamed President Obama for much of the conflict.” Wonder what that notion didn’t get more prominence.In this article, Fred Barnes details just how the Democrat “has shown little or no interest in taking GOP proposals, alternatives, or tweaks seriously, or even considering them at all.”

Doesn't it make you feel great that you were had (once again) by ABC news? Just keep stamping "sucker" on your own foreheads.....

76 posted on 06/12/2012 4:53:02 AM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt, the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: Steelfish

Whining RINO Bush!


77 posted on 06/12/2012 5:02:01 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: woofie
Hating the Bush family is a sickness....seek help

So is fealty to and adoration of the Bush dynasty....seek help.

78 posted on 06/12/2012 5:07:58 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: CitizenUSA
I say the Bushes are out of touch patricians who deserve no loyalty whatsoever from conservatives. They are part of the problem, not a solution to this nation’s ills.


79 posted on 06/12/2012 5:42:10 AM PDT by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: Steelfish
Jeb is just bitter because the Bushes "Would Lose Out in Today’s GOP."
80 posted on 06/12/2012 5:47:02 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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