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Morris: Civilian gun ban to be signed July 27
Fox News Channel (no link) | 7/5/12

Posted on 07/05/2012 5:46:45 AM PDT by pabianice

Dick Morris now on Fox. Morris says the UN Gun Ban Treaty is scheduled to be signed by Obama's U.S. ambassador to the UN on July 27. According to Morris, treaty will be rammed through by the lame duck Senate after the November election if the Democrats are still in charge. A treaty, of course, supercedes the U.S. Constitution. Interesting months ahead.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; gunban; treaties; ungunbantreaty; vanity
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To: pabianice

Treaties can’t be passed through reconciliation. Are there really enough RINOs willing to commit career suicide and vote for this?


61 posted on 07/05/2012 6:31:41 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Comstock1
There are not enough votes in the Senate to pass this. It requires 2/3 and and that means roughly 67 senators have to vote for it and that is highly unlikely.

Really?

Permit me to direct you to the following "BI-PARTISAN" Republi-Tard, RINO's and then tell us all that the ratification is "Highly unlikely?"

Brown, Scott
Collins, Susan
Cornyn, John
Graham, Lindsey
Hatch, Orrin
McCain, John
Kyl, Jon
McConnell, Mitch
Murkowski, Lisa
Snow, Olympia

62 posted on 07/05/2012 6:32:04 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: skully

And if it were in the Constitution it wouldn’t be spelled wrong!


63 posted on 07/05/2012 6:32:23 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (If you believe what you're saying, quit making taxable income. Starve the beast.)
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To: pabianice

Have you read the Constitution? Two-thirds of the Senate must approve the treaty which makes ramming it through a “lame duck Senate” nearly impossible even with the current configuration. And treaties DO NOT supercede the Constitution.


64 posted on 07/05/2012 6:33:45 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: rem_mitchell

...except that they don’t play by the rules. The Constitution, laws, the people’s will, - - none of it matters to these people.


65 posted on 07/05/2012 6:35:17 AM PDT by privatedrive
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To: ZULU
No treaty which violates the Bill of Rights has any validity in America and anyone complicit in attempting to enforce such a treaty should be taught first hand about the purpose of the Second Amendment.

From a practical standpoint, should anyone try, whether obama, the Senate, the freaking UN, etc., they will essentially be declaring war on We, the People, because that will be how such a "treaty" will be heard and responded to.

66 posted on 07/05/2012 6:35:25 AM PDT by GBA (To understand what is happening to America and why, read The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn)
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To: freedumb2003; elcid1970

>>> “Always a crowd-pleaser...”

A-yep. Thankee. BMFL


67 posted on 07/05/2012 6:37:05 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: pabianice

“A treaty, of course, supercedes the U.S. Constitution”

But not if it is violation of the rest of the constit...oh, wait, we have a president and a court that thinks the constitution means whatever they want it to say.


68 posted on 07/05/2012 6:37:46 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: pabianice

Be sure to take note of who votes for this in Congress.


69 posted on 07/05/2012 6:37:59 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: cuban leaf

It’s not you, it’s me.


70 posted on 07/05/2012 6:38:40 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

You forgot my senator, Dick Lugar.


71 posted on 07/05/2012 6:38:58 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: pabianice
Trust the UN, folks. No cause for alarm. They say they aren't going to take guns away. /s


72 posted on 07/05/2012 6:40:05 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: cripplecreek
"Not in my house it doesn't."

My Grandfather always said: "They may come for my guns but first they will get my expended ammo."

73 posted on 07/05/2012 6:40:49 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Comstock1
The Constitution (Article II, Section 2, second paragraph) says "...providing two thirds of the Senators present concur..."

Obama would NOT need 67 votes out of 100. He just needs 2/3 of those physically present at a particular moment in time.

Suppose the Senate is in session, and there are but a handful of left-wing Senators present since the Senators are all scattered at their offices or in committee hearings.

The way this is written, any treaty could be passed at any time with say 34 out 51 (a usual quorum). What about 7 out of only 10 present if they carefully time it? What about 3 out of only 3 present when the left-wingers keep a running count? How many minutes does it take to ram through a vote with no regard for "Senatorial courtesy"?

74 posted on 07/05/2012 6:41:10 AM PDT by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Just last year 58 Senators signed letters to President Obama opposing participation in the treaty. That total includes 13 Democrats.


75 posted on 07/05/2012 6:43:03 AM PDT by PhatHead
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To: skully
Where in the Constitution does it say that??

Article VI.
This line puts treaties on par with The Constitution itself. And newer laws supercede older laws. That said, they won't get any 67 votes. Hec, they probably wouldn't get Bernie Sanders' vote.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
76 posted on 07/05/2012 6:43:43 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: pabianice

“A treaty, of course, supercedes the U.S. Constitution. Interesting months ahead.”

It does, does it?


77 posted on 07/05/2012 6:44:40 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: MissMagnolia

Primarily I picked your post to respond to in order to compliment your choice of tagline: (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren’t. (M.Thatcher))

Nice - very, very nice. :o)

...but also to remind posters that treaty passage requires only a 2/3s majority AMONG THOSE PRESENT.

Considering the Constitutional and legal transgressions accumulating to the current Administration, I don’t put it past them to employ the most outrageous of shenanigans to enact this into law and then thumb their noses at the hapless GOP and citizens alike.


78 posted on 07/05/2012 6:48:59 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: pabianice

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/un-finalizes-arms-trade-treaty-opponents-warn-global-gun-grab


79 posted on 07/05/2012 6:50:19 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: PhatHead

“Just last year 58 Senators signed letters to President Obama opposing participation in the treaty. That total includes 13 Democrats.”

That may be true, but knowing politics we must conclude that the UN has the needed mechanism to get US approval or else this would not be coming to a vote.


80 posted on 07/05/2012 6:51:10 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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