Posted on 09/06/2012 8:24:18 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake
Apparently, archaeologists have also found a few human skeletal remains at the excavation site
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September 4, 2012 11:10 AM GMT
More than hundred bones of animals, now extinct, that thrived over 10,000 years ago (the late Pleistocene period), have been discovered in the state of Hidalgo, in central-eastern Mexico.
The discovery was made at a construction site of a wastewater treatment plant near the river El Salto in the city of Atotonilco de Tula, archaeologists at the National Institute of Anthropology and History (INAH), announced in a statement.
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The remains include bones of several extinct animals including mastodons and mammoths among others, which were found scattered at different distances within an area of approximately 100 hectares, and as deep as 10 metres.
“The skeletal remains of extinct animals, some of which measure up to 1.60 m, corresponding to ribs, vertebrae, skulls, jaws, defences (fangs), horns and shells, of species such as glyptodont, mastodon, mammoth, camel, horse, deer, bison and possibly other as yet unidentified,” INAH archaeologists said, adding that it took about five months of excavation work to dig out all the remains.
Though remains of mammoths have been found in the past as well, archaeologists are dubbing it as the biggest discovery of the Ice Age’s large-bodied animal remains ever made in the region.
“This is the most numerous and varied discovery of remains of extinct megafauna, found together, registered so far in the Basin of Mexico” INAH archaeologist Alicia Bonfil Olivera said.
Human Bones
Apparently, archaeologists have also found a few human skeletal remains at the excavation site but scientific investigation for confirmation is yet to be done. However, two stone tools found in the excavation suggest that the bones may be of a human.
“The characteristics and size of some bones indicate that it is human limbs, which is not surprising because it is known that man lived in central Mexico at that time.”
The sediments and sand layer in which the faunal remains were found further indicate that the animals and possibly humans probably were trapped in landslides and got buried in the debris.
Yes, I am aware of the Alaska finds, the miners call it “muck”, large areas of crushed and intermixed bones.
Be advised I do not think this caused a global flood, like the Genesis account. I’m not going to mix science and religion.
But also realize that an object impacting the ice shield would have instantaneously vaporized hundreds of millions of tons of ice, probably more than enough to make it rain worldwide for forty days, if not one heck of a lot longer!
Me neither and I'm a Bible believer. What strikes me as odd is "science" has done everything within its power to deny, hide or ignore evidence of water moving across whole continents. It's all but a foregone conclusion that at the very least enormous tsunamis reached high into mountain ranges around the world. The evidence is in the cracks and crevices everywhere. Not to mention having a look at some good resolution shaded relief maps of the North American continent for example. Worldwide flood/tsunami "myths" don't rely on Genesis for their support; the evidence speaks for itself.
... In contrast to the catastrophic view of geology, the principle of uniformity postulates that phenomena displayed in the rocks may be entirely accounted for by geologic processes that continue to operate at the present day—in other words, the present is the key to the past. This principle is fundamental to geologic thinking and underlies the whole development of the science of geology...
The ancient "myths", and drawings for that matter, point to a time when there were some really unusual events seen by early Man on the earth and in the heavens. If only half of what they recorded is anywhere near accurate, they lived in a strange world.
I've done some scouting around the web in search of something that would indicate these strange events could even be occurring in cycles. And if so, how long that cycle might be. As you might suspect there's little hard science on the subject; that I could find at least.
Selections from Immanuel Velikovsky’s Worlds in Collision (1950)
In the manuscripts of Avila and Molina, who collected the traditions of the Indians of the New World, it is related that the sun did not appear for five days, a cosmic collision of stars preceded the cataclysm; people and animals tried to escape to mountain caves. ‘Scarcely had they reached there, when the sea, breaking out of bounds following a terrifying shock, began the rise of the pacific coast. But as the sea rose, filling the valleys and the plains around, the mountain of Ancasmarca rose too, like a ship on the waves. During the five days that this cataclysm lasted, the sun did not show its face and the earth remained in darkness
http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/JNHDA/wic.htm
Sitting on a mountain as it rises up above the encroaching waters must have been quite a ride.
Nice eye-witness account, I liked it. Don’t forget to look at the link, there are many more there...
Yeah, I recall seeing most of them at various places but "V's" compilation in particular is about as good as it gets.
According to the Vedas, the current Kali age began 3102 BC, which ushered in disturbances both cultural and gelogical, for a two hundred or so period. I don’t think it was a sharp cutoff, but around 200 yeras. I think it very likely that a lot of the great geologic changes happened at that time.
According to the Vedic history, in between each of the four ages are great upheavals and disturbances, scattering populations, destroying traditions, cities, memories...
I just remembered - there are big caves about 5000 feet up in the mountains around here. We went on a tour a couple of times. The Forest Service guide said that there are jaguar bones in the cave; I forget how old she said they are. There are no jaguars around here now; I think they prefer a warmer climate. I’ll investigate and find out how old they think they are.
Atotonilco de Tula fossils
Paleontology in Greek and Roman Times
by Adrienne Mayor
review by Tim Tokaryk
that reminds me of -
http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/plato/timaeus.htm
TIMAEUS
by Plato
360 BC
excerpt:
...On one occasion, wishing to draw them on to speak of
antiquity, he began to tell about the most ancient things in our part of the world-about Phoroneus, who is called “the first man,” and about Niobe; and after the Deluge, of the survival of Deucalion and Pyrrha; and he traced the genealogy of their descendants, and reckoning up the dates, tried to compute how many years ago the events
of which he was speaking happened. Thereupon one of the priests, who was of a very great age, said: O Solon, Solon, you Hellenes are never anything but children, and there is not an old man among you.
Solon in return asked him what he meant. I mean to say, he replied, that in mind you are all young; there is no old opinion handed down among you by ancient tradition, nor any science which is hoary with age. And I will tell you why. There have been, and will be again, many destructions of mankind arising out of many causes; the greatest have been brought about by the agencies of fire and water, and other lesser ones by innumerable other causes. There is a story, which even you have preserved, that once upon a time Paethon, the son of Helios, having yoked the steeds in his father’s chariot, because he was not able to drive them in the path of his father, burnt up all that was upon the earth, and was himself destroyed by a thunderbolt.
Now this has the form of a myth, but really signifies a declination of the bodies moving in the heavens around the earth, and a great conflagration of things upon the earth, which recurs after long intervals; at such times those who live upon the mountains and in dry and lofty places are more liable to destruction than those who dwell by rivers or on the seashore. And from this calamity the Nile,
who is our never-failing saviour, delivers and preserves us. When, on the other hand, the gods purge the earth with a deluge of water, the survivors in your country are herdsmen and shepherds who dwell on the mountains, but those who, like you, live in cities are carried by the rivers into the sea. Whereas in this land, neither then
nor at any other time, does the water come down from above on the fields, having always a tendency to come up from below; for which reason the traditions preserved here are the most ancient...
The Vedas describe a great flood, but it was a lot long ago than 6000 years, a vast flood. But there are ruins of the city of Dwaraka under the ocean on the west coast of India, I think a couple hundred feet, and that city was existent until 5000 years ago, so IMHO and understanding there has been at least one great huge flood and then minor or perhaps more localized floods, or risings of the sea.
Constant flux. Our “modern civilization” seems so fancy and modern and better than anything and permanent. Not true at all.
Thanks Fred. Next thing you know you’ll be telling me there are VERY old human remains and areas in the Indus Valley that are radioactive.
There are a number of causes and a variety of radioactive elements in decay. Some are dangerously radioactive while others are only mildly so. For example, it is epigenetic uranium deposits In Colorado and Wyoming that seems to produce radioactive dinosaur fossils from the Morrison Formation [1]. This issues is known by most archeologists that are active in field research, however notices are often published as reminders [2].
http://www.quora.com/Science/Why-are-some-Dinosaur-bones-covered-in-heavily-leaded-paint
Aw man. I had read somewhere that some dino bones were covered with lead based paint because they were radioactive but didn’t say where the radioactivity came from. Blew up my notion of atomic warfare by the ancients. Oh well, back to the mundane.
I hope they can get the date more exact to see if it correlates with the probable meteor event proposed by Firestone, et al around 13,000 years ago.
I just read the article in Spanish. There were about 10 technical words I did not full understand, but the gist of the article is that the remains are from 10 to 12,000 years old. They are at a place where the valley of mexico empties into the Rio Salto and flows toward the ocean. This was discovered because of excavating for a sewage plant for Mexico City which is in the valley at an altitude of 7,000 feet. Given that fact I doubt that it was either an ocean wave or ocean flood. What makes more sense is that there was a rapid melt of glaciers on the surrounding volcanoes, or a large meltdown like the Nevada de Ruiz event a few decades ago that killed over 20,000 people with a lahar. Another possibility if this was precipitated by the Firestone meteor event(s) was such earth shock that a bathtub like wave was propagated in what must have been a very large lake bed which then flushed many victims, including humans, toward the outflowing river.
There are other great bone beds in Canada and Alaska from the same time period. Some of this I first became aware of reading Velikovski, and then found from other sources since I was alert to the possibility. Can’t wait to hear more of their findings.
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