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1 posted on 10/08/2012 3:01:26 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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Thanks for this post. I enjoyed imagining his experiences. Sounds very beautiful and peaceful.


65 posted on 10/08/2012 4:37:23 PM PDT by catbertz
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The ususal little simple minded demons jumped in on the comments below the article.

This scientist going public with experiencing God is like a Black person announcing she is voting for a Republican. The herd people can not tolerate any public defections from group think.


72 posted on 10/08/2012 4:59:29 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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75 posted on 10/08/2012 5:04:55 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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Here in Revelation 4 we see heaven and the activity of heaven. God the Father and The Son Jesus Christ are the center of everything in heaven and all activity is around them in worship and adoration.

This what our activity on earth should also be like, for those of us who are the bride of Christ.

Matthew 6:9-10 ESV

Pray then like this:
“Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name.
Your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.


Revelation 4:1-11 ESV

After this I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven! And the first voice, which I had heard speaking to me like a trumpet, said, “Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.” At once I was in the Spirit, and behold, a throne stood in heaven, with one seated on the throne. And he who sat there had the appearance of jasper and carnelian, and around the throne was a rainbow that had the appearance of an emerald. Around the throne were twenty-four thrones, and seated on the thrones were twenty-four elders, clothed in white garments, with golden crowns on their heads. From the throne came flashes of lightning, and rumblings and peals of thunder, and before the throne were burning seven torches of fire, which are the seven spirits of God, and before the throne there was as it were a sea of glass, like crystal.

And around the throne, on each side of the throne, are four living creatures, full of eyes in front and behind:
the first living creature like a lion, the second living creature like an ox, the third living creature with the face of a man, and the fourth living creature like an eagle in flight. And the four living creatures, each of them with six wings, are full of eyes all around and within, and day and night they never cease to say,

“Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord God Almighty,

who was and is and is to come!”
And whenever the living creatures give glory and honor and thanks to him who is seated on the throne, who lives forever and ever, the twenty-four elders fall down before him who is seated on the throne and worship him who lives forever and ever. They cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
“Worthy are you, our Lord and God,

to receive glory and honor and power,

for you created all things,

and by your will they existed and were created.”


78 posted on 10/08/2012 5:08:29 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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Sounds a lot like DMT experiences I’ve read on erowid. Apparently the brain releases DMT when near death, so it wouldn’t surprise me that when you really die you get all this (if it’s slow, not totally brain destroyed at once violently) and then fades out to a state of what it was like before you were born.


79 posted on 10/08/2012 5:08:36 PM PDT by Monty22002
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Heaven will be for me to reunite in Heaven with my beloved SO who had passed away suddenly early last month.


80 posted on 10/08/2012 5:11:38 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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My father was friends with his father. They were both neurosurgeons.


84 posted on 10/08/2012 5:30:16 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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There is a little kid’s story, the little kid is now in his early teens, but he tells about being in Heaven at the age of 3 and that he saw his great-grandfather and his older sister. There is a book about his experience. I read the beautiful pictures children’s edition.


86 posted on 10/08/2012 5:31:45 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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Heaven is a may fly hatch on the West Madison River.


88 posted on 10/08/2012 5:32:56 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Take two Aspirin and call me in November - Obama for Hindmost.)
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Does sleep apnea reduce the flow of oxygen to the brain?


91 posted on 10/08/2012 5:53:30 PM PDT by LaMudBug
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I don't know why people doubt that person who for all practical purposes see glimpses of heaven. For that matter person whether they are dieing or dreaming as well are permitted to see portions of heaven? Yes I believe it happens. I also believe some are shown hell. I know a preacher who said he went out for a drive arrived there. Not the fires we imagine but a place so desolate nothing grew or any life. There is no place within several hundred miles that could account for that. He also saw his two kids in coffins and that vision changed the mans life.

The Apostle Paul was allowed to see portions of heaven as was John. We also know the account of at least two persons Jesus himself brought back from the dead not counting the busted open graves upon His death. We have documentation of persons being brought back from the dead in the Old Testament as well. Elijah is associated with that event IIRC. Then we have Acts Ch 2

18‘In the last days, God said, I will pour out my Spirit upon all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, and your old men will dream dreams.

Many person who have worked with persons in the process of leaving this world can tell you of their patients visions and descriptions. Then again some persons have no visions that they speak of. My wife had a NDE & I was with her when it happened. She never lost consciousness in the process and was aware of what was happening. She was describing it to me on the way to the ER. We understand so little of our spirit being which lives eternal.

I've read the of post in this thread and one stuck out. How could a person who has seen heaven at what ever level describe that which is not of this world? What was Paul seeing? John? Or go back to the Old Testament prophets. How could they describe what they saw. It would be like a person who lived 100 years ago seeing the world now.

I believe these things happen to strengthen us or help us understand to trust in faith something else is there. They are massages in some cases too help us come to Christ seeking salvation because of what we see or hear, or it is for the benefit of the ones witnessing the event. We likely won't know this side of heaven. My wife's grandmother was a music teacher. As she was dieing in her final last couple of hours her hands were moving in motions of directing a piano student or a choir. What was she hearing?

Look at Thomas. A Disciple of Christ who was taught by Christ and traveled with him. Thomas had problems when he was told Christ had arisen and had been seen by others.

John ch 24 24One of the disciples, Thomas (nicknamed the Twin£), was not with the others when Jesus came. 25They told him, “We have seen the Lord!” But he replied, “I won’t believe it unless I see the nail wounds in his hands, put my fingers into them, and place my hand into the wound in his side.” 26Eight days later the disciples were together again, and this time Thomas was with them. The doors were locked; but suddenly, as before, Jesus was standing among them. He said, “Peace be with you.” 27Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here and see my hands. Put your hand into the wound in my side. Don’t be faithless any longer. Believe!” 28“My Lord and my God!” Thomas exclaimed. 29Then Jesus told him, “You believe because you have seen me. Blessed are those who haven’t seen me and believe anyway.”

What will Christ do & to what lengths will He go to find and save His lost sheep? I don't think we anywhere near see & understand but a small portion of what goes on that is unknown to us but happens for our sakes.

95 posted on 10/08/2012 6:05:58 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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That was as lame as the Celestine Prophecy that I read as a New Age & Buddhism dabbler, and every bit as unbiblical.


99 posted on 10/08/2012 6:38:00 PM PDT by AmericanSamurai
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Heaven Is Real: A Doctor’s Experience With the Afterlife
Life after life? This Wyoming surgeon says she believes

As I lay dying a voice said: ‘Let’s go’ (the near-death experience of a cynical prof)
Atheist Professor’s Near-Death Experience in Hell Left Him Changed
Near-Death Experiences: 30 Years of Research - A neurosurgeon’s perspective
Near-Death Experiences: 30 Years of Research
Seeking Proof in Near-Death Claims (18 Hospitals to study mystery of near-death experiences)
Review of Life After Death: The Evidence
Who is the Being of Light Encountered in Near-Death Experiences
Doctor Claims He Has Evidence of the Afterlife
An Interview with Dinesh D’Souza on Life After Death: The Evidence
World's Largest-ever Study Of Near-Death Experiences

102 posted on 10/08/2012 7:10:56 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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The comments at the end of the article are full of doubt. Not only doubt, but calling people idiots who believe in God.

My cardiologist said of my near death experience “There are those who will say there is a scientific explanation for what happened to you. I don’t believe it. I believe there was a power at work. I call it the “Doctor of all doctors”.

Then a shrink later told me it was lack of oxigen to the brain. This shrink, by the way, thinks Joe Biden is brilliant.


113 posted on 10/08/2012 9:44:59 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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How beautiful our Blessed Mother is: It gets stranger still. For most of my journey, someone else was with me. A woman. She was young, and I remember what she looked like in complete detail. She had high cheekbones and deep-blue eyes. Golden brown tresses framed her lovely face. When first I saw her, we were riding along together on an intricately patterned surface, which after a moment I recognized as the wing of a butterfly. In fact, millions of butterflies were all around us—vast fluttering waves of them, dipping down into the woods and coming back up around us again. It was a river of life and color, moving through the air. The woman’s outfit was simple, like a peasant’s, but its colors—powder blue, indigo, and pastel orange-peach—had the same overwhelming, super-vivid aliveness that everything else had. She looked at me with a look that, if you saw it for five seconds, would make your whole life up to that point worth living, no matter what had happened in it so far. It was not a romantic look. It was not a look of friendship. It was a look that was somehow beyond all these, beyond all the different compartments of love we have down here on earth. It was something higher, holding all those other kinds of love within itself while at the same time being much bigger than all of them.


122 posted on 10/09/2012 10:17:05 AM PDT by mgist
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To: WilliamIII; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows

Stories like this make you wanna die.
Honey, will you drive me to the bridge?


124 posted on 10/09/2012 10:33:07 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: WilliamIII; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows

Heaven is a place where nothing ever happens. But to be subjected to heavenly choirs for eternity 24/7, it would be like listening to the horrible art rock of the 1970s, ya know Pink Floyd, Genesis, EL&P, etc, torture, no thank you.

I guess we’ll never know. Lazarus, as I recall, wouldn’t go on talk shows and declined all book advances.


127 posted on 10/09/2012 6:12:01 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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