Posted on 11/08/2012 8:32:03 AM PST by Al Gore Vidal
Roberts (republican nominee) sealed Obamacare. So much for the argument we elect Republicans and the court will be saved. Snowe could be argued to have even sealed it when she voted it out of committee giving democrats (they thought at the time) cover.
Romney wasn’t going to do a damn thing to drag us away from the fiscal cliff. He made his intention well known by stilfing Ryan on the campaign trail. he made his choice clear when he mediscared in the Republican primary to political advantage.
So yeah...not feeling the guilt trip. Basically all I hear when you guys parrot these lines is that you are either partisan hacks or bought into what those hacks sale to get a few people to the polls every four years. Tired of being treated like garbage by the party, looked down upon and ignored. republicans are just as culpable for this nation’s mess as Democrats. Now please...show me there is a good faith effort to change. Start with DeMint being elected Minority leader with McConnell being booted. Oh? Hasn’t happened yet? Guess it will anyday now right...After all...they’ve only lost several cycles with him at the helm he must be leaving soon...
This is sheer sour grapes.
Unless you can show me vast numbers of ballots with republican representatives and write-ins or blanks for president, then I don't believe this meme. The fact is, every year 2.5 million people die. Over 4 years thats 10 million people. We need to be replacing our departed conservatives with new conservatives. That means converting young democrats who come out of college and can't get jobs. That means converting young men and women who start working and realize that much of their effort is taken from them and given to much less deserving. We need to offer freedom over free stuff. And it's a tough sale.
Well said Sir!
it’s the second time I’ve written that, or something like it, in these threads. No one every even tries to come back at me. I think they know I have them.
Well, I’ll tell you and your kind this - I AGREE with you that Christian Conservatives should not call themselves Republicans.
I’ve read enough on this board in the last two days to recognize Christian Conservatives/Evangelicals and those who put faith and the bible as the compass for their actions - are not welcome in the GOP.
So if it makes you feel better to shout that Principled Conservative Christians are to blame for Obama’s permanence in power, have at it.
Christians who live their faith daily rather than visit it once a week or twice a year do not belong in the GOP. They do not want us, and we no longer support them. It’s time for Christians to move on.
The GOP is all yours. So good luck trying to woo Democrats and moderates with your compromised acceptance of homos, illegals, and abortion to your banner.
We’ll stand on principles and faith - even if it means we are the only ones left standing. If the nation burns to the ground as a result of that - it isn’t worth saving. There are things more eternal at stake than selling your faith out for 30 pieces of silver promises.
I’m permanently finished with the GOP and will only vote Conservative from here on out. Exactly what I did on Tuesday.
Get over it.
You can’t keep voting for the lessor of two evils. You have to draw a line somewhere on what is acceptable, and what is not. Especially when it comes to Abortion, and homosexuality. And to a lessor extent when your better choice is a socialist. Pay no attention to what he tried to deceive you into thinking he was. Pay attention to what he has already proven to be. And I never heard that he got down on his knees and cried that he had seen the light. Otherwise it might be different.
Your argument is tested and proven to be a lie. It does not lead to any kind of awakening for the country. The country continues to slide. Just as it did under Bush. If people had taken a stand then. We would have got Gore, But we would have never ended up with Obama.
The elite play you. The left plays you into giving up your values piece by piece. They sit in rooms and actually plan how to wear you down, and to change you and make you conform to their whims. Gramsci was one of the first to devise such a great plan to take out the west, and his plan worked.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2956227/posts
Think of your self as a bouncing Ball. You bounce so high in all your goodness. They get you to compromise. Then you don’t bounce so high. Then they get you to compromise again. You bounce even less high. And so on until you are laying still on the floor completely broken from what you once were. Like wise they destroy your country as well. You Willingly let yourself be deceived.
Likewise when you hear that Boehner has compromised. Then what you are really hearing is that you are losing your country little by little to those who hated what it was, and wished to destroy it.
Why should God help anyone who stands for nothing. He won’t.
The key to this election is corruption from the top down. Gangsters on the left have coopted the election. As Rove and others have made clear, the results as reported are impossible. This is a stolen election. It does not need to be proven. Obama’a election is proof on its own. The fireworks will come. They will be slow burning but will build into a confligration that will bring down the martinettes ruling us. Take a deep breath, friends. There will be a purging such as we have never seen.
“As Rove and others have made clear, the results as reported are impossible.”
I like your sentiment as it is just. But Officially it will go nowhere. Those are the times we live in.
It is not like the fraud has not been discovered before. It has. It was during the 2000 election. And what did congress do. They forced states to switch to voting systems that are way more problematic, and way more easy to cheat. They did nothing to ensure that the elections were fairly monitored or that ineligible people could not vote or even vote as many times as they wanted. I have to admit that I was shocked when even the UN admitted that something was horribly wrong with all that. But experience says it is only going to get worse. Even the republican congress will not take up that fight.
Ok, you have established that you are a person of principal.
What if, in advance of the election, you had known that there was a strong liklihood that Obama, in his 2nd term, would find a way with his Dem cohorts to seize an additional 2 more terms after this one, and rule for 12 more years?
OR,that the Dems would so consolidate their power that the Repubs would not be able to regain the presidency for 12 more years?
Would you STILL have not voted for Romney?
Please don’t avoid the question by saying it’s not possible.
I am a Christian conservative, and I think anyone who thinks a vote is some kind of soul searching journey into their Biblical beliefs is arrogant and a navel gazing narcissist hiding behind phony self righteousness. I am not an official member of the GOP in any way, shape or form other than voter registration.
This has nothing to do with wooing your arrogant self to anything. You made a horrible decision. Period. You threw away every precept of the wisdom of Proverbs for some kind of charismatic witchcraft. Be gone.
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I think anyone who calls themselves a Christian, and then thinks they can compartmentalize their faith and compromise with agendas promoting sin as some kind of virtue - are CINO’s.
Or to quote Jesus “This people honors Me with their lips, but their hearts are far, far from Me”. - Matthew 15:8
Be comforted in your wrath against Christians who will not sell out their faith or principles to vote for your party’s liberals - we will no longer be a part of your party or ever vote for anyone in it.
Enjoy the consequences. You earned them.
Your Bible quote is not relevant to this discussion, and I could pull a 100 out to make you look foolish, but I won’t use the Word that way.
And you are dumber than I think if you think helping Obama win is less evil than voting for Mitt. That’s retarded, and I don’t mean to insult the mentally handicapped.
A vote is NOT ABOUT the voter, I repeat, it is NOT about the voter -
And it’s not about a profession of faith: It’s not about that at all, you judgmental arrogant ass. I worked hard, much harder than you, to prevent Mitt from being the nominee. My conscience is totally clear. What did you do? Where were you then?
Thus I was left with a choice this week. At the time of that choice, my only Christian response is to make the best, or in this case, the least damaging, choice. There are seasons for everything.
And this is the end of our season together. You are too ignorant/arrogant and I’m done with you.
Absolutely, I would have voted for Romney if I believed that a strong liklihood that Obama would somehow overturn free elections and the constitutional amendments limiting his terms.
In that case, it would no longer be a contest between two liberals that are both horrible on social values and on economic policies. One of the candidates would at that point be a clear threat to our democracy, and I would vote for the lesser evil.
I know people have tried to make that case for Obama as it is, but I don't see it.
It is concerning to me that the rule of law is not being followed with regard to Obama's citizenship and eligibility. But as I mentioned, the GOP has had control of the House and could have investigated. They share equal responsibility for that conspiracy and can no longer use it as an argument that I should vote for the GOP candidate.
"OR,that the Dems would so consolidate their power that the Repubs would not be able to regain the presidency for 12 more years?"
Well that depends on what you mean by "consolidate their power". If you mean sway voters, that's just the free election process. I don't see how they could do that unless they do a wonderful job for the next 4 years. Or the GOP gets even more stupid then they already are.
I don't believe the democrats are trying to make us all dependent. We are not as Romney said 47% dependent now. But even if we were, that's not a model that is sustainable, I don't think they could continue that for 4 years and be viewed favorable, much less 12 years. It's pretty clear neither candidate understands what has happened to our economy and neither knows how to fix it.
Of course, with failure to fix the economy, we may become more dependent on the government, and we may very well test how sustainable it is. And if the GOP's response continues to be to cut safety nets with no plan to fix the economy, that approach could very well keep democrats in power for some time.
It is simply because no authority will take up the cause of justice that existing authority must be brought down. The mechanics for this are not yet in place but millions of citizens are on a unified quest for the means to do so. The ballot box has failed. The consequences are dire.
Even as I voted for Romney, I had a sick feeling that he was going to disappoint me, as a conservative. I just knew that he was going to give in to the Dems and Bohner and McConnell would be as spineless as usual.
Well, I feel sure they will still cave on demand.
If 113,098 others in CO are like you, that explains the loss of the state.
Lost NM by 76,400. Thanks.
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