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Glenn Beck Slams Secession Petitioners
Glenn Beck Radio Show ^ | 11/13/12 | Glenn Beck

Posted on 11/13/2012 9:30:14 AM PST by central_va

Well freedom fans, Glenn thinks the hundreds of thousands who e-signed the various peaceful secession petitions are crazy.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: beck; clown; joke; secession; secessionpetitions
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To: chromdome35

Another way to put what you’re saying is, WHY THE HELL SHOULD WE LEAVE OUR OWN COUNTRY??! If anyone needs to be going, it’s the libtard socialists and communists and those attempting to make us into a quasi european-rwanda-south african hellhole.

I’m not freaking leaving. If anyone is leaving it’ll be them.


101 posted on 11/13/2012 10:37:13 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: central_va

It’s over, all that’s left is the enevitable decline to irrelavance, like England and Western Europe generally.
I believe that this god’s plan to take America’s stabalizing influence off the table so that he may carry out his plan for Israel and the end of the age! But who knows for sure!


102 posted on 11/13/2012 10:38:29 AM PST by qman (The communist usurper must go!)
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To: chromdome35

As always some will do their duty and some will stand around and bitch.

Judge Andrew Napolitano: Revolution is Duty of the People

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af5KJ2aD8F0


103 posted on 11/13/2012 10:39:36 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: central_va
Me too...all we are doing is taking up the leftist tactics..throw so much shiite against the wall that its hard to figure out what's going on.

The people who say that it will never happen, just might be wrong. NOBODY thought that the Soviet Union would fall, but it did, almost over night.

In this political climate with absolute lunatics in charge, anything can happen....

...and when it does, it will be so quick that it will catch most people off guard...

104 posted on 11/13/2012 10:40:59 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance.....)
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To: central_va

WILL A CONSERVATIVE LEADER STAND UP AND RALLY THOSE TO THE CAUSE OF SECESSION? I think it’s only a matter of time that someone comes out of the shadows to take up the cause.


105 posted on 11/13/2012 10:42:18 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: central_va

I had a quick look at Beck’s web site. I didn’t see anything about possible voter fraud which helped to start the secession movement.

On the other hand, I don’t see secession as a remedy for problems concerning the election.


106 posted on 11/13/2012 10:42:32 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: central_va

By the time anything even happened with this, we’ll have a new president.


107 posted on 11/13/2012 10:44:16 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: central_va
It might have been helpful to the discussion if you included why he thinks it's a bad idea.

He believes it will lead to violence and civil war.

108 posted on 11/13/2012 10:44:34 AM PST by Drill Thrawl (We have crossed the line from independence & liberty to dependency & servitude. We are doomed)
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To: catfish1957
A state can instantly give value to their currency by defining their own minimum wage (I've been suggesting for a while that as long as there's a minimum wage there's no need to back a currency with precious metals).

So, if the states were just ready to act quickly, with "currency" pre-staged for initial disbursal, then great human suffering could be avoided, and, in fact, greater prosperity might even be achieved in the absence of the great Federal Parasite.

109 posted on 11/13/2012 10:45:21 AM PST by The Duke
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To: central_va

I wouldn’t be surprised if the White House were behind the petition. There’s no way I would sign that petition. It’s an invitation to have the FBI investigate you.


110 posted on 11/13/2012 10:46:08 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: central_va

If no one said anything, how would they know we are not going along with the republicans after the election? They now, at least, know there is anger and dissatisfaction around. I don’t pick and choose, I hate everything about what is going to happen from here on. They don’t mean to be nice and they don’t mean to spare any of us. We do not yet know the scope of what the left has planned. They think they have the right to do whatever they so choose, and they think NO ONE will stop them.


111 posted on 11/13/2012 10:47:04 AM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: central_va

I turned off the radio when Beck started going off on these people for signing the petition. He was calling names and everything.

Sure, maybe nothing will happen but if some people feel this is what they want to do, why shouldn’t they. It reminds me of the Arab women on Facebook taking off the hijabs and they were shut down for that. Imagine.

It does do something, it proves that stupid website Obama set up is a big bunch of nothing. All show. So why can’t the citizens put on a show pointing out how pathetic and useless that website is? The world will see that.

Having their names out there is a problem? Heck, with google, face book and the Patriot Act (talk about 1984-act of a patriot my foot!), does anyone think they stay off a list if they don’t sign? It doesn’t matter if somebody signs or doesn’t sign. They know what food you like and if you wipe from the front to back or otherwise.

I do think it shows how far we are gone— we are frightened of our government.

What does all Beck’s Restore this, that and the other do? What does his E 4 or whatever do? What does his little 1861 thing do? What did his being George Washington do? Line his pockets, that is what.

If we are worried that the right will look like fools for signing that petition, that doesn’t matter either. The left thinks we look like fools for listening to Beck, FOX, Rush, defending Chic Filet or whatever. Their opinion is decided already.


112 posted on 11/13/2012 10:47:11 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: humblegunner

I hear ya


113 posted on 11/13/2012 10:48:36 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Irenic

I turned Beck off when he trashed Newt.


114 posted on 11/13/2012 10:48:48 AM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: Strategerist

I agree with your take on it.

In addition I would state that we need to take the whole nation back, not just parts of it.

Folks, Obama may not even make it through this next four years. As more information comes out regarding Benghazi and the Petraeus scandal, we may be amazed how history plays out.

Senator Feinstein is angry the Petraeus investigation was kept from her for months.


115 posted on 11/13/2012 10:50:23 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: dforest
To: MarkeyD

Which is exactly why I haven’t signed anything.

80 posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2012 12:17:30 PM by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big.)
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To: MarkeyD

That is the reason I won’t sign one of these petitions.

95 posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2012 12:32:40 PM by dforest
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I understand. While I don't want to secede, and I'm certainly not an enemy of the State, I would sign that petition in a heartbeat if the Obozo regime considered me as an enemy of "their" state.

116 posted on 11/13/2012 10:50:56 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd; My Favorite Headache

Meant to ping you also to post 116.


117 posted on 11/13/2012 10:52:35 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: ilgipper

You are right, in that online petitions are a joke. If there was a real secessionist movement, it would consist of real signatures, rallies, etc. in the states in question. I have yet to hear of such a thing. I also think that secession is unrealistic, barring some kind of economic collapse.

But having said that, I don’t agree that this is similar to FDR. This country has passed a tipping point. We are now sliding down towards European socialism, and the combination of immigration (taking in large numbers of unskilled, 3rd world people) and “education” (little more than kids being trained for 16 years in terms of who to hate) makes any kind of political change very unlikely.

Anecdotally, I have been shocked at how many times I have heard people who I didn’t even know were political, refer to secession, collapse, and how America is now finished. I am talking about secretaries, professionals, clerks, and small business owners. The feeling that this country has changed is palpable. I don’t think it will lead anywhere, but I am less sure of that than I once was.

Our control of the House, which you cite, is irrelevant. America’s internal enemies now know that they can do whatever they want, without repercussions. Any notion that the GOP will stop them is as unrealistic as any online petition.


118 posted on 11/13/2012 10:52:35 AM PST by jjsheridan5
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To: central_va

Though I TOTALLY agree with the petitioners, what they are doing is just STUPID/useless!

If someone REALLY wants their state to succeed, they need to be lobbying their state legislators/governor. When the state intends to succeed, they can then notify the White House and .gov of their decision, and then carry it out.

This is nothing but a big side show/temper tantrum.


119 posted on 11/13/2012 10:54:55 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Secret Agent Man

The states interested are in flyover country. Flyover is coming to dislike that the large population zones are really the ones running things. The original articles of confederation of the United States of America recognized the power of the more populated areas and the loss of sovereignty that would result from a more binding federal union.

It’s fairly evident that the compromise of two senators was either ruined by the 17th amendment or was insufficient in any case.

In the presidential contest it amounts to a mere 2 additional electoral votes per state.


120 posted on 11/13/2012 10:55:38 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: central_va

Beck said Romney would win in a landslide too. Not always right - I’m just sayin’


121 posted on 11/13/2012 10:56:40 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: EEGator

Well it looks like its creating conversation. :)


122 posted on 11/13/2012 10:56:40 AM PST by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: EEGator

It is far smarter to travel under the radar. No use wearing your heart on your sleeve right now.

It makes you more vulnerable. Not to mention without state government support, it will get no mention.


123 posted on 11/13/2012 10:57:02 AM PST by dforest
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To: central_va

In fact, after thinking about this... the very point of this thread is an outright lie, misquotes Beck and spins the iintention 180 degrees. I can’t say what the motive might be, but this entire thread should be pulled by the moderators as an intentional untruth posted for the purpose of causing willful damage and knowingly false.


124 posted on 11/13/2012 10:58:28 AM PST by Lloyd227 (Class of 1998 (let's all help the Team McCain spider monkeys decide how to moderate))
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To: Secret Agent Man
I’d be more apt to think FEMA would help us die rather than actually save us.

Asbury Park Press article about FEMA's “Camp Freedom”:

“Camp Freedom”

125 posted on 11/13/2012 10:59:17 AM PST by folkquest (Nothing is fool-proof because fools are so ingenious!)
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To: Strategerist

I’m concerned that the idea of seceeding actually might make conservatives “feel good”.

But otherwise I agree with you, the secession stuff just shows that the left doesn’t have a monopoly of the lunacy market.


126 posted on 11/13/2012 11:00:54 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Responsibility2nd; MarkeyD; dforest
That is the reason I won’t sign one of these petitions.

...and you think that being a FReeper doesn't already have you on one of their "lists". I'd guess you wouldn't support your brothers in arms, if it comes to that!

Dream on!

I have proudly signed four including WV, NC, MS, and LA... and would be happy to sign them all. If the Obozos wish to follow up, the most they can do is imprison me or make me dead! Either way, I will try not make it too easy!

WV has gained 1241 signators since I signed three hours ago!


127 posted on 11/13/2012 11:01:11 AM PST by WVKayaker ("Mitt Romney couldn't keep up with lies and spin of Barack Obama" - Sarah Palin 10/24)
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To: Paleo Conservative

There’s no way I would sign that petition. It’s an invitation to have the FBI investigate you.

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Petition / Shemition.

Soon, all it will take for the FBI to investigate you is to declare yourself a conservative. Or to vote for one. Or to declare yourself to be a Christian opposing abortion. Or a believer in the Constitution. Or a thousand other things the Kenyan Regime can and will use to put you on their Enemies List.

I see a whole host of FReepers here stating they won’t sign this petition if it meant being put on a watch list. And I am almost tempted to call them cowards.

The Secession Petition will go nowhere. But if it means someone can make a stand against an un-American, un-Constitutional presidency?

Then sign the damn thing.


128 posted on 11/13/2012 11:03:06 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: central_va

Beck can kiss my ass.


129 posted on 11/13/2012 11:03:10 AM PST by sport
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To: Solson

Haha, you have me there. :)


130 posted on 11/13/2012 11:04:24 AM PST by EEGator
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To: central_va

So glad I don’t listen to/watch this guy anymore. It’s a toss up to see who is more annoying Beck or BORe.


131 posted on 11/13/2012 11:05:30 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: dforest

We’re in agreement.


132 posted on 11/13/2012 11:05:41 AM PST by EEGator
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To: WVKayaker

I am aware of that. I still would not sign one of these petitions unless it was a formal petition from my state.

Who said I wouldn’t support my brothers in arms? YOU?

Big mouthed over emotional BS’ers get people killed.


133 posted on 11/13/2012 11:06:01 AM PST by dforest
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To: CatherineofAragon

I’m pretty certain God could give two flips about the rise and fall of nations.

The Catholic church proves this in spades, throughout its history, many empires, states, alliances have come and gone, but yet it still stands.

It is a relatively strong manifestation of Gods care for the greatness of individual nations.

There is but one true Kingdom, the Kingdom of God.


134 posted on 11/13/2012 11:06:53 AM PST by Individual Rights in NJ (Want to join my new country in Greenland? Like the Danes will stop us; pft!)
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To: chromdome35

Very well spoken.

Ditto.


135 posted on 11/13/2012 11:08:31 AM PST by 2dogjoe (Have a Blessed Day)
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To: central_va

Beck is irrelevant and has dug his hole of insignificance deeper.

Thought little of him before and less now.

He is a hyper, bi-polar, self-promoting, drunk. Not a leader.

Recall how slow he was to endorse the tea party activities in the spring of 2009. Not until he could organize a grandstanding activity did he get on board.

What is in it for Glenn is how every plan the man has starts.


136 posted on 11/13/2012 11:09:03 AM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: frnewsjunkie

I did for a while. We canceled GBTV but we had paid for the year. I had gifted it to a couple in my family, I stopped that, too.

I am weak, I started listening again and tuned in to GBTV on occasion but this is the third strike for me.

First was when he went off on the birthers—I am not a birther but I sure think there are plenty of questions about why Obama pays so much to hide his records. There was no reason to trash the birthers.

The second strike was Gingrich. He made my blood boil over that. (Mike Church pizzed me off in the primaries, too—Church had been my favorite)

Third is this. There is no reason to call people who sign that petition names.

I’m sure I will probably hear Beck again because that’s my morning routine— feed the dogs, make my coffee and turn on the radio. So, I imagine I may hear him on occasion, until January, that is when my Sirius subscription runs out.

I think Levin is the only one I will be listening to after January. I will miss Wilkow but he seems to be changing since going over to GBTV...ah well.


137 posted on 11/13/2012 11:11:12 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: chromdome35

“As much as I don’t like the outcome of the election, I’m not ready to give up on America yet.

Anyone who wants states to leave our nation had better take a long look in the mirror. How dare you disrespect the sacrifices of our fallen veterans who gave their lives for America. And you call yourselves Patriots...I would use a different term...Quitters.

If you want to leave America, then I suggest you follow in the footsteps of the forefathers you constantly use as an example and go find your own island, move there, and start your own nation. Leave America for the American’s. We may be a flawed nation, but I’d rather live in America than anywhere else in the world...including your new nation.”

I would agree these people should not be doing this because it is up to their soverign states to handle this. From that standpoint, they should be petitioning their state legislatures, not the federall gov.

It is also too soon.

Where I disagree with you is in your perspective about them being unpatriotic. Your assertions sound like sanctimonious platitudes that would fly 10 years ago but not now.

I’m not shouting at you but need to capitalize this for emphasis.

THE UNITED STATES FOR WHICH YOU AND I LONG NO LONGER EXISTS. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SECEEDED FROM THE CONSTITUTION.

THE ELECTORATE HAS CHANGED. THE DEGRENERATE CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN OF THE BOOMERS -SHOW UP ON ELECTION DAY!!!

DELUSIONAL ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS ARE IN DENIAL.

THE “BLUE DOG” DEMOCRATS ARE DEAD.

OVER THE NEXT 2 YEARS YOU ARE GOING TO SEE AN OUTPOURING OF EVIL THAT WILL DEMAND CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE UNLESS YOU ARE EVIL YOURSELF.

THEN - STATE LEGISLATURES (RED) WILL HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE (LIKE OUR FOUNDING FATHERS, THE WAY THEY EXHAUSTED EVERY POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVE BEFORE THE DECLARATION).

I LIKE BECK - BUT HE IS IGNORANT ON THIS BECAUSE HE IS UNDERESTIMATING THE GRAVITY OF THE SITUATION.

MARK MY WORDS, A YEAR OR TWO FROM NOW HE WILL BE TELLING US HOW HE PREDICTED SECESSION EARLY ON.

iT IS INEVITABLE - BUT NOT NOW AND NOT BY PEOPLE WHOSE JOB IS NOT TO DO THE WORK OF THEIR ELECTED STATE LEGISLATORS.


138 posted on 11/13/2012 11:19:46 AM PST by publius321
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To: EEGator

“The media will use it against us to paint our side as whack jobs.’

So you’re worried about what the commie media will think of you. Here’s a news flash for you: The media hates your guts, and nothing you do will please these Goebbel’s liars.


139 posted on 11/13/2012 11:24:20 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: dforest
Big mouthed over emotional BS’ers get people killed.

I didn't think Boy Scouter's would get people killed. Be prepared is the Scout Motto.

Your state is yours... and YOU are the gum't... or do feel otherwise?

I remember a little of my history, and don't think the Founders were Gum't types. They were largely farmers, physicians, lawyers, preachers and plain old business folk... and told the king to 'shove it'!


click pic for list of signers of the DOI!

140 posted on 11/13/2012 11:26:16 AM PST by WVKayaker ("Mitt Romney couldn't keep up with lies and spin of Barack Obama" - Sarah Palin 10/24)
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To: sergeantdave

I don’t care what they think about me. I care about potential voters being chased away.


141 posted on 11/13/2012 11:26:54 AM PST by EEGator
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To: WVKayaker

Post #138. I agree with that.


142 posted on 11/13/2012 11:29:44 AM PST by dforest
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To: ilgipper

By “We” I expect you mean the cowardly Republicans? Boner who has already declared Obamacare to be the law of the land? Is that the “We” that will control our fate? Good luck with that!


143 posted on 11/13/2012 11:30:40 AM PST by Scarlet Pimpernel (And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?)
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To: chromdome35

Well said. “quitters”, iindeed.


144 posted on 11/13/2012 11:31:56 AM PST by deener
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To: whattajoke

Ok - sell the food to the (old) USA, use the money to buy whatever you want.

What percentage to the world’s food is produced in the heartland of North America?

What would happen if there was a small export tariff from the Central States?


145 posted on 11/13/2012 11:41:23 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: publius321

Very well stated. The frustration felt by so many is that they see the gravity of the situation, and also have come to realize that there is no path to reverse our slide into the abyss. Those that mock secession movements never seem to put forward practical solutions. Changing the GOP’s image, becoming more conservative, becoming less conservative, embracing amnesty ... all of these kinds of ideas are merely rearranging chairs on the Titanic. The time for listening to people like Beck (or most of Fox news punditry) is over. They don’t have the solutions, and are clueless about what is actually going on in this country. I don’t know what will happen, but I am quite certain that Beck doesn’t either.


146 posted on 11/13/2012 11:42:47 AM PST by jjsheridan5
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To: central_va

secession - States rights- this is what the Conservative Element was deciding with the Election in 2012. i was surprised to see Michigan on the list.

Oddly enough the UP of Michigan has been wanting to separate from Lower Michigan for many years to make Superiorland the 51st State. Secessionist views are considered Nuts by many others.

But look at the whole picture - the states can secede if they chose because the states do not want the higher unemployment that will come with the full implementation of ObamaCare in 2014. If you think unemployment is bad now, in 2014 it will well above 35%. Insurance providers will be closing their doors and more people will be put onto the government and more people will mean rationing and so forth.

here in the UP, we have more physicians retiring and leaving, the few physicians that we have are already cutting back on patient loads because of electronic charts. and many elderly are being informed to go to Wisconsin for their medical care. I know this firsthand because I take care of my mother whom is elderly and has alzheimers. I moved her to the UP of Michigan, so I could have a life of my own, but I have to take her back to Wisconsin for medical appointments.


147 posted on 11/13/2012 11:48:39 AM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: central_va
Being on that list may make you an enemy of the FedGov™ but not the enemy of (your) state. This is a republic, get it?

I understand your point, but he was using "state" as defined say, by Albert Jay Nock in, Our Enemy, the State"

148 posted on 11/13/2012 11:54:24 AM PST by sand88
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To: chromdome35

I’d rather see America secede from the northeastern and west coast states.


149 posted on 11/13/2012 12:02:00 PM PST by milemark (Wait 'till they get a load of my binders...)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Didn’t you say that you are bumping your move to Belize up by 6 months?


150 posted on 11/13/2012 12:03:39 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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