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Support for Dorner is Troubling
Townhall.com ^ | February 12, 2013 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 02/12/2013 11:04:32 AM PST by Kaslin

Just when you thought you've seen it all with the Sandy Hook murders of a classroom full of children, America experiences another new low: A man named Christopher Dorner murders (as of this writing) three innocent people in order to air personal grievances. And his grievances are given serious attention by the national media, not to mention left-wing websites.

To better understand this, imagine the outcry if, let us say, a white student who was certain that he was denied admission to a prestigious university because of affirmative action, murdered a university official and the daughter of the dean of admissions and her fiance.

Imagine further that this man had posted a lengthy manifesto delineating how unfairly he had been treated by that university, and that he would continue to murder admissions department officials until the university admitted he was wrongfully rejected.

And imagine if the murderer had listed Fox News and conservative talk show hosts as media personalities he admired, as Dorner listed Chris Matthews, Tavis Smiley and Soledad O'Brien, among others, nearly all on the left.

Finally, imagine how the media, and perhaps the president himself, would have reacted.

A tsunami of vilification of conservatives and of conservative media would have ensued. We would be told 24/7 that talk radio is hate radio and that Fox News should be ostracized from civilized company. We would be told how right-wing hate had produced such a murderous man.

Moreover the murderer would be labeled exactly what he was, a murderer, and would not be regarded by any conservatives as in any way heroic. Conservative commentators would, rightly, outdo one another in condemnation of the murderer.

This has not been the case with Christopher Dorner. He is widely depicted as a man with legitimate grievances that caused him to "snap." His "manifesto" is widely read and often praised, a Facebook page has been set up to defend him, and thousands of commentators on left-wing sites concentrate their fury on the Los Angeles Police Department, while portraying Dorner sympathetically.

It is important to remember that Dorner murdered a young woman and her fiance simply because she was the daughter of a cop -- the man who acted as Dorner's defense advocate in the LAPD proceedings against him. But as one comment on a left-wing site noted, that was a good idea because if the cop had been murdered, he wouldn't have suffered, but if his daughter and her fianc? are murdered, then the cop would experience real pain until he died.

Any public figure, especially any member of the clergy, who does not unambiguously condemn Dorner as a psychopathic murderer, is failing in his or her duty. This is not the time to discuss allegations of racism in the Los Angeles Police Department. For one thing, being wrongfully dismissed from a job -- if, indeed, that is what happened to Dorner -- inhabits a different moral universe than murder. For another, the more the public pays attention to this murderer's "manifesto," the more murders-for-attention will take place.

How could any number of self-pitying angry individuals who see themselves as victims not get the idea that murdering people is a great way to get people to take you and your grievances seriously?

Constance Rice, a prominent Los Angeles civil rights attorney, a black woman called by NPR last year the "Conscience Of The City [Los Angeles]," wrote in a Los Angeles Times op-ed column about "the disturbing support for Dorner's manifesto from the black community on the Internet and on black radio."

And Rice, who has said that she woke up every day for years wondering how she could sue the Los Angeles Police Department for alleged abuses, went on to write, "Dorner is absolutely wrong when he states in the manifesto that 'the department has not changed since the Rampart and Rodney King days'. ... The good guys are now in charge of LAPD culture."

But that apparently does not matter to the many black Americans who have so much anger and so clearly define themselves as victims that they will, in too many cases, support black murderers -- from OJ Simpson to Christopher Dorner.

What we have here is another proof that nothing leads to murder and other evils more than a sense of victimization. This is true for nations, just as it is for individuals. The German sense of victimization led to World War II. Dorner believes himself to be a victim and consequently feels entitled to murder.

But the real victims are decomposing in their graves.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: arguingwithlibs; christopherdorner; dorner; liberals
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To: Kaslin

Even the MAD TRAPPER Albert Johnson created quite a following back in 1932.

So did Dillinger, Bonnie and Clyde along with others.

It reminds me of an old Playboy cartoon from the 1960s.

Two cops are beating a hippie on the ground. As a couple passes the young man says to the girl, “I wish I’d said that!”

Some people are getting a vicarious thrill out of this as it is something they would like to do but won’t.


61 posted on 02/12/2013 1:25:12 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Too old to cut the mustard any more.)
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To: Rage cat

His “going over the edge” proves that the LAPD was right to fire him. He proved to be unstable and dangerous. If anything, he proved that the LAPD does a poor job of hiring people because they hired him.


62 posted on 02/12/2013 1:27:24 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: MeganC
Personally I tend not to believe people who advocate gun control and are in favor of disinformation specialists like Anderson Cooper, Piers Morgan, etc.

But, of course, who you choose to believe is up to you.

63 posted on 02/12/2013 1:27:35 PM PST by what's up
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To: RinaseaofDs

The LAPD is a gang, and they screwed the wrong gang member, and now he’s doing what any screwed killer is wont to do - kill members of his former gang, and their family members.

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Dorner is dumb....he has a family, too. His mama must be afraid for her life now.


64 posted on 02/12/2013 1:32:50 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: Terry Mross

“I’m not saying people are rooting FOR Dorner. I’m saying they’re rooting AGAINST the cops.”

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In this particular situation if you are against the cops you are rooting for Dorner.

The enemy(Dorner) of my enemy {LAPD) is my friend.

He’s a plain old fashioned murderer IMHO.

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65 posted on 02/12/2013 1:37:56 PM PST by Mears
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To: CodeToad
plus the cops went and shot up two vehicles of innocents over this

Two? I hadn't heard that. What was the second one?

66 posted on 02/12/2013 1:38:15 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: what's up

“Dorner is no victim.”

One has no correlation over the other. Being a murderer,
and a victim are not mutually exclusive. To say so is to try and dehumanize someone. A murderer can be a victim of a robbery as much as anyone else. Him being a murderer does not mean in any way that he can not be a victim of that robbery, and it doesn’t make that robbery any less wrong.

He was a victim of the system, and he is a murderer. Both are true at the same time.

Just because he murdered someone, doesn’t make the original injustice any less unacceptable.


67 posted on 02/12/2013 1:43:04 PM PST by Rage cat
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To: Kaslin
The very same folks who cheered OJ’s “not guilty” verdict and who threw roses at Michael Jackson until the day he died are the same ones cheering this Marxist psychopath.
68 posted on 02/12/2013 1:46:56 PM PST by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: Mears

“In this particular situation if you are against the cops you are rooting for Dorner.”

Then you are supporting the “gang” atmosphere that is in the LAPD. That gang atmosphere “us against them” is what has caused this whole mess in the first place.


69 posted on 02/12/2013 1:49:00 PM PST by Rage cat
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To: Ramius

70 posted on 02/12/2013 1:52:11 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

From my experience I would wager that there are plenty of sick puppies on this very forum who feel that way.

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Yeppers. As one who has read hundreds if not thousands of replies over the years on ‘cop shoots dog’ or ‘SWAT team raids wrong house’ threads; its easy to see FReepers who state in open forum they would shoot a cop if....


71 posted on 02/12/2013 1:54:57 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: toolman1401

His manifesto, the uncensored version, is interesting reading. The names he provided should be investigated by an independent agency
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That’s what pushed him to this point , knowing that justice is impossible as investigations are all handled by people with an agenda to not find any wrongdoing no matter what the facts are. He was at one time a “true believer” in the “system” ,, worked for the system his whole life... As an ex-cop he had the two things essential to pulling this off ,, a ridiculously high salary that gives him plenty of flexibility in his actions , and inside knowledge of procedures.


72 posted on 02/12/2013 2:17:06 PM PST by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I'm just amused.)
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To: Iscool

Looks like the COPS did their job and now have the guy cornered. If in fact Dorner is a real person... I mean He could be made up. Right, Iskool?


73 posted on 02/12/2013 2:37:19 PM PST by justice14 ("Christ is Victorious" / @rjustice21)
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To: Cyber Liberty
I think he just didn’t like the way you spell “kop.”

HaHa...Maybe I've offended a kop...

74 posted on 02/12/2013 4:20:22 PM PST by Iscool (I love animals...barbequed, fried, grilled, stewed,,,,)
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To: Cyber Liberty
I think he just didn’t like the way you spell “kop.”

HaHa...Maybe I've offended a kop...

75 posted on 02/12/2013 4:20:35 PM PST by Iscool (I love animals...barbequed, fried, grilled, stewed,,,,)
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To: CodeToad

And out of 60 some shots, they only hit the truck 17 times...The rest of the bullets went into other cars and housed at the end of the street...

Must have been like Elmer Fudd shooting at Daffy Duck or Bugs Bunny (you have to be there)...


76 posted on 02/12/2013 4:28:28 PM PST by Iscool (I love animals...barbequed, fried, grilled, stewed,,,,)
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To: justice14
Looks like the COPS did their job and now have the guy cornered. If in fact Dorner is a real person... I mean He could be made up. Right, Iskool?

I'm sure he's a real person...I'm also sure he'll be dead before he gets a chance to defend his version of the events...

77 posted on 02/12/2013 4:32:32 PM PST by Iscool (I love animals...barbequed, fried, grilled, stewed,,,,)
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To: Noamie

One could argue that the beginning of ignoring the law en masse was Carter’s 55 mph speed limit. Few drove under the speed limit making nearly everyone a casual law breaker without a second thought. It made breaking the law common place and normal.


78 posted on 02/13/2013 2:42:43 AM PST by DB
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To: Little Ray

You would be incorrect. Just go to the Facebook page created for him... He’s practically a hero...


79 posted on 02/13/2013 2:44:15 AM PST by DB
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To: Kaslin

All the more reason to stock up on weapons and ammo.


80 posted on 02/13/2013 2:52:23 AM PST by windsorknot
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