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AK-47-Wielding Gunman Fires 37 Times at Shocked Cops During Routine Traffic Stop
The Blaze ^ | May 4, 2013 | Dave Urbanski

Posted on 05/04/2013 6:56:42 PM PDT by driftdiver

Terrifying dash-cam footage captures the moment a crazed motorist opened fire with an AK-47 rifle at police officers who had just pulled him over for a minor traffic violation in Middlefield, Ohio.

James Gilkerson, 42, exited his parked car and then fired 37 shots at the officers and their patrol car, the Cleveland Plain Dealer reported. Officers Erin Thomas and Brandon Savage returned fire, killing Gilkerson.

(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ak47; banglist; guncontrol; middlefield; ohio; secondamendment
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To: ClearCase_guy
It's the meds everyone is taking. We have stress and worry so we take pills to get happy - but, its the stress and worry that keeps us from doing the crazy things we are thinking. The pills remove our governor.
51 posted on 05/04/2013 8:18:40 PM PDT by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: ctdonath2

I don’t know where that theory comes from, but I can tell you from close personal experience that people who either mix alcohol and/or dope with SSRI’s and/or suddenly stop taking their SSRI’s are BONKERS.


52 posted on 05/04/2013 8:30:57 PM PDT by Yehuda
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To: driftdiver

See the importance of training and accuracy in contrast with the importance of type of weapon?


53 posted on 05/04/2013 8:32:43 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I am thinking “disturbed loner with no future”. His library is pretty impressive:

“Backyard Rocketry: Converting Model Rockets Into Explosive Missiles”
“Advanced Close-range Gun Fighting”
“Homemade Detonators: How To Make Them”
“The Poor Man’s Ray Gun (Deadly Rays)”
“Fighting Rifle, by Tactical Response”
“Ragnar’s Big Book of Homemade Weapons”
“Improvised Munitions Black Book, Vol. 1”
“Resistance to Tyranny”
“How to Build Military Grade Suppressors .22 through .50 BMG”
“Be Your Own Undertaker - How To Dispose of a Dead Body”
“The Ultimate Do It Yourself Primer Cookbook”


54 posted on 05/04/2013 8:38:33 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: JRandomFreeper
"Some women don't.

Best not to paint with a broad brush."

Rrriight, then.

55 posted on 05/04/2013 8:40:10 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Westbrook

“She’d had a part of an index finger shot off in the first exchange of fire.”

Yeah, makes it hard to pull the trigger.


56 posted on 05/04/2013 8:44:47 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: driftdiver

If you listened to the video, she told her partner to cover while she called backup. And she lost a finger in the exchange, Jerk, so she might not have been able to handle her firearm effectively.


57 posted on 05/04/2013 8:48:11 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.cafepress.com/westernwis)
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To: driftdiver

“they guy was still up and still had the gun in his hand. no reason to stop firing.”

Once on his knees, the perp kept looking back and forth between his gun and the cops. Looks to me like he was trying to clear a jam or change mags. Which is why the cop kept shooting him until he stopped doing that.


58 posted on 05/04/2013 8:50:44 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Crazy loose nut job.


59 posted on 05/04/2013 8:52:08 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: rabidralph
I was required to qualify with my off hand as well as my primary hand.

If you can't do in the field what you were trained to do back at the schoolhouse, perhaps you should stay on the porch.

/johnny

60 posted on 05/04/2013 8:52:26 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: driftdiver

Notwithstanding her scream, the lady stood her ground in a damn tough situation that few of us typists tonight have experienced. If I were her father I would be damn proud of her.

Before anyone jumps me for taking the lady’s side be aware of two points:

1. I think EXPERTS reviewing the tape will likely conclude he gets an A and she gets a b- overall for this shoot out.

2. I think it is ludicrous to, in the name of PC, to put women in these situations.


61 posted on 05/04/2013 8:53:15 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: KrisKrinkle
I'm allowed to be politically incorrect. Is my raison de etre.

If I haven't offended someone accidently, it's because they don't know me very well.

/johnny

62 posted on 05/04/2013 8:54:03 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“3 ex mother-in-laws. You would have thought I would have gotten 1 good one at least.”

I’m a mother-in-law. I assume it would be quite interesting to know their opinion of you.

.


63 posted on 05/04/2013 8:54:52 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Cen-Tejas
I think it is ludicrous to, in the name of PC, to put women in these situations.

AMEN! Preach it brother!

In a rational world, women and children are protected, not put in the line of fire.

There's a reason men know how to kill spiders.

/johnny

64 posted on 05/04/2013 8:55:52 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Enterprise; ansel12

Works well as a you’re-falling-asleep-at-the-wheel alarm too. I’m not sayin how I know that.


65 posted on 05/04/2013 8:57:19 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: basil

Ping to myself to read tomorrow....


66 posted on 05/04/2013 8:57:20 PM PDT by basil (basil --Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: JRandomFreeper

How very nice for you. I am not aware of what police are taught for off-hand shooting but her partner was able and she chose to call for back-up. I have no problem with their actions except that they are both terrible shots, as have many police been in recent high-profile shootouts.


67 posted on 05/04/2013 8:57:40 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.cafepress.com/westernwis)
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To: Mears
They shared it freely. I provided a good income so my wife (whichever one) didn't have to work, but yet... I just NEVER did anything right.

My first ex-wife is a better mother-in-law to our son-in-law than her mom was to me.

/johnny

68 posted on 05/04/2013 8:58:23 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: rabidralph
Then they should stay on the porch.

I, too, have noticed the poor shooting going on.

It's unacceptable.

I don't say that as a keyboard warrior. I say that as a taxpayer that wants better vetting of those entrusted with that responsibility.

If the dishwasher can't handle lunch rush, we need to call Jose's cousin.

Do the job right, or go.

/johnny

69 posted on 05/04/2013 9:02:32 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: driftdiver

Agreed!


70 posted on 05/04/2013 9:04:42 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Springfield Reformer

As a man, it made me stop undressing with the lights on.


71 posted on 05/04/2013 9:05:04 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: driftdiver

Do we have to excerpt the blaze?


72 posted on 05/04/2013 9:13:11 PM PDT by mirkwood
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To: driftdiver

“Musta been a 9mm. I prefer a .45acp...”

Probably one of thise 9 mm Glocks...too bad the cops don’t go for real guns... :)


73 posted on 05/04/2013 9:16:47 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: ansel12
I snorted soda onto the keyboard.

/johnny

74 posted on 05/04/2013 9:19:16 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

If you look carefully, genius, the perp goes down because someone put one or two 9mm boolits in his bladder region. If you don’t know what that means then keep your smarmy mouth shut. The perp was also hit more than a dozen times, which a genius like you could not do with a .45 and five mags, I’m willing to bet!


75 posted on 05/04/2013 9:38:49 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: ansel12

“and the females still scream, “

Screaming has, unfortunately , replaced polite applause at just about every venue with an audience. I just mute the volume at the end of a performance because I know what’s coming;)


76 posted on 05/04/2013 9:50:22 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: JRandomFreeper

I have two living mothers in law. So far I broke even. But trust me, there won’t be a third.


77 posted on 05/04/2013 10:21:44 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: rabidralph

It seemed to me that she did fine, her behavior seemed well within the range of normal competence, you can hear some stress but she did all the actions and performances that she was supposed to and seemed clear headed enough. That finger may have been a huge distraction for her, we don’t know what level of pain and shock it was dealing her.


78 posted on 05/04/2013 10:36:54 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
He might have had all the books. Can't tell if he read them or practice the skills in them his tactics/and shooting skills are piss poor.

As for the officers Can't tell if the cover officer was out of their vehicle before the shooter got out. They had about 50 seconds to prepare for something.

They survived the attacker did not could things have been done better or different yes. But then things could have been a lot worse also.

There are lessons to be learn form the actions of both parties.

79 posted on 05/04/2013 10:44:41 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: driftdiver

Thank God that the a##hole was such a poor shot. Don’t know why the female is taking grief here. Sounds like she kept her cool, relatively speaking. The white car in the oncoming lane took a few seconds but then backed way the ****up in a hurry and in a controlled manner


80 posted on 05/05/2013 2:16:13 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: driftdiver

Chaos in the big cities will be the first to prompt the real hope & change...


81 posted on 05/05/2013 3:09:53 AM PDT by Enduro Guy
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To: cripplecreek

It’s all according to how much ballast you are carrying. Jesus makes for a “pretty even keel”.


82 posted on 05/05/2013 3:31:48 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: MHGinTN

But of course, with a .45, you don’t have to hit him multiple times to knock him off his feet.


83 posted on 05/05/2013 3:53:48 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cen-Tejas

She did ok but I think she’s in the wrong career.


84 posted on 05/05/2013 4:21:36 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: rabidralph

excuses are not very effective at stopping someone shooting atyou


85 posted on 05/05/2013 4:26:18 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: MHGinTN

If you can’t hit what you are shooting at perhaps in the wrong job.

I’m not a huge guy and don’t have any problem with a .45


86 posted on 05/05/2013 4:38:23 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

What? No Anarchist Cook Book?

Disturbed? Yes. Totally.


87 posted on 05/05/2013 4:48:19 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Lurker

I only had 1.

My wife and I have been married 42 years.

We lost my mother-in-law in March 2012. She lived with us for 1-1/2 years before she died. She did not walk for her last 3 years.

She was married 2 times and did not particularly trust men. In her 2nd marriage she got a real winner.

I never had an argument with my mother-in-law. She was always my friend.

I cared for both of my wife’s parents and have no regrets about any of that.

Lost my mother last August. Still have my father. He is 87 and pretty tough, but loss of my mom was an awful blow. They were married 66 years.


88 posted on 05/05/2013 5:04:29 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: MHGinTN

The words on your home page are well said and I do not disagree with your hermeneutics. However, your reply to my post is empty and void of any discerning value. Meanwhile, crawl back under the rock with the other copperheads that live there.

As for the Glocks, I would not own one, though it is choice of many LEO’s. That said, I know many who do not carry glocks because they do not like them. Or maybe it was the reference to ‘45’ vs ‘9mm’ you found offensive.

So be it, and anytime you want to put your SA mouth to the test, let me know. Just squirt your butt up I65/I71 or I75/I71 anytime your heart starts pumpin’ your adrenaline again. We can use a local LEO range (Sheriff’s)...I will be there with one half-empty mag and beat your butt. :)


89 posted on 05/05/2013 5:53:24 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Texas Fossil

Some years ago, I got some interesting trivia about the Anarchist Cookbook, author unknown.

The first edition is very different from subsequent editions, of which there are several. The main difference is that, without explanation, many of the chemical names used in the book were replaced with the slightly differently spelled German names of those chemicals.

The reason being that if someone shows up at a chemical wholesaler or retailer, and asks for certain chemicals with their German names, they immediately notify the FBI.


90 posted on 05/05/2013 6:46:42 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

That is interesting. Thanks


91 posted on 05/05/2013 6:51:40 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Cen-Tejas
I think it is ludicrous to, in the name of PC, to put women in these situations.

Agreed.

92 posted on 05/05/2013 6:54:18 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: driftdiver

Unless you hear a woman screaming, then you are entitled to screw up all you want.


93 posted on 05/05/2013 7:22:39 AM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.cafepress.com/westernwis)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
"However, your reply to my post is empty and void of any discerning value." In other words, you haven't a clue other than putting holes in nice still paper targets, and you've trained yourself to 'shoot for center mass'. Good for you. Now run along.

This is not a caliber issue, it is an accuracy under stress issue, capacity issue. But your mental rut caught you in a claiber/gun model smarminess preventing you from discerning what the heck this IS about.

BTW, I have beavertail grips and multiple caliber barrels for both of my Glocks. The 1911 grip alignment suits my shooting better. When I'm merely putting holes in paper, I enjoy my 1911s, but when I'm practicing rapid firing in fast reaction I prefer to only have a trigger to pull, regardless of double or single action. That's why I will alternately carry a CZ82, or a Bersa 9mm UC Pro, or a Glock 19 or a Glock 22. And I always have one or two extra mags along. I also varey the ammo I load with, according to the weather (cold weather I carry more ball ammo, less hollow point) and location interaction anticipated. As to your silly 'challenge': Have Nice Day

94 posted on 05/05/2013 7:39:58 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: rabidralph

I see she’s not the only drama queen.


95 posted on 05/05/2013 9:38:50 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

The homosexual misogyny on FR is getting pretty old. You all should just stop it.


96 posted on 05/05/2013 9:45:24 AM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.cafepress.com/westernwis)
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To: rabidralph

You really are raabid, they do have shots for that ya know.


97 posted on 05/05/2013 9:49:15 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: MHGinTN

“Have Nice Day”

You wouldn’t know a nice day if it bit you in your @ZZ.


98 posted on 05/05/2013 6:24:52 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy; Travis McGee
"I am thinking “disturbed loner with no future”. His library is pretty impressive:

'Backyard Rocketry: Converting Model Rockets Into Explosive 'Missiles'
'Advanced Close-range Gun Fighting'
'Homemade Detonators: How To Make Them'
'The Poor Man’s Ray Gun (Deadly Rays)'
'Fighting Rifle, by Tactical Response'
'Ragnar’s Big Book of Homemade Weapons'
'Improvised Munitions Black Book, Vol. 1'
'Resistance to Tyranny'
'How to Build Military Grade Suppressors .22 through .50 BMG'
'Be Your Own Undertaker - How To Dispose of a Dead Body'
'The Ultimate Do It Yourself Primer Cookbook'
"

Thank you for bringing that up. Very interesting.

From "Middlefield police still wondering what caused gunman to target officers in March shooting (video, slideshow)" by Michael Sangiacomo in The Plain Dealer, "Stanko said he did not know if Gilkerson kept his weapons, ammunition and the books in his car all the time or if he had piled them all in that day."

Odd, though. Very odd that he had all of those publications in his car instead of at his home, and that he took them with him to do the crime and get himself killed.


99 posted on 05/05/2013 7:36:27 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

Suicide by cop. If he had wanted to, he would have put 30 rounds right into the cops. He didn’t. He was firing around them to elicit his own death.


100 posted on 05/06/2013 5:38:07 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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