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Ted Cruz: ‘Abolish the IRS’
Washington Post ^ | june 3 | By Rachel Weiner

Posted on 06/20/2013 9:35:57 AM PDT by celmak

Hours before the House Appropriations Committee held a hearing on political targeting at the Internal Revenue Service, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) had a simple solution to the agency’s problems — get rid of it altogether.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cruz; irs; oldnews; teaparty; tparty
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To: little jeremiah

Yeah, I see your argument carried the day for Obama.


21 posted on 06/20/2013 9:57:32 AM PDT by Obadiah (Inside of every Liberal beats the heart of a fascist yearning to reveal their true nature.)
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To: OriginalChristian

See my just posted comment.

He was born in Canada, spent his first 4 years there, and his father was a Cuban national at the time, and for many years after.

Rules are rules.


22 posted on 06/20/2013 9:57:46 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: SeekAndFind

Tariffs.

And of course, resduce the size of the fedgov to what is mandated in the Constitution, they won’t need anywhere near as much money.


23 posted on 06/20/2013 9:58:37 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: SeekAndFind
So, put your thinking caps on and PROPOSE a system that de-fangs the IRS, making it IMPOSSIBLE to harass ordinary citizens, yet, allow revenue collection.

How 'bout a simple form with just 2 questions:

That would be a 23% flat tax which seems reasonable.

In the legislation establishing this, there should be a provision that the percent of tax rate cannot be raised without 70% concurrence in the House and Senate.

No longer would Warren Buffet pay a lower rate than his secretary. Everybody pays the same rate. Period.

24 posted on 06/20/2013 9:58:38 AM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: SeekAndFind; ForAmerica

That’s what I find myself shouting whenever I hear Levin harping on eliminating the IRS.

A flat tax is one idea. I don’t know though what people like Levin, I.e., people with the ability to effect change, are suggesting as a replacement. Which gets me angry. Because its nothing more than empty slogans. Designed to get ratings (or votes).

Call me cynical. This is what I get though unless someone starts talking alternatives and not just feel good platitudes (that everyone agrees with, at least every conservative) like “we should return to our constitutional roots!”

I mean we have to have an alternative suggestion if we want to be serious about eliminating the IRS.


25 posted on 06/20/2013 9:59:22 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: celmak

Can I get a big HELL YES!!!


26 posted on 06/20/2013 10:00:04 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Obadiah

The Constitution is more important that a good guy. He can be a Congressman or Senator, maybe TX governor.

But he’s not eligible.


27 posted on 06/20/2013 10:00:05 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: upchuck

No deductions?

So, a family making $30,000 a year now pays $6,900 in taxes as opposed to ZERO now?

You’d get opposition from 47% of the country.


28 posted on 06/20/2013 10:00:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

We spend trillions of dollars on accountants and tax preparing. Why not a simple tax system based on sales tax. Or a flat tax. I don’t care.... Set it at 20% and that’s it.


29 posted on 06/20/2013 10:02:51 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: celmak
www.Fair Tax.org

Abolish the 16th Amendment!!!!

:-)

30 posted on 06/20/2013 10:03:43 AM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: nikos1121

This sounds like a good plan to me:

http://www.fairtax.org


31 posted on 06/20/2013 10:05:10 AM PDT by sneakers
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To: EXCH54FE

Ha! You beat me by less than a minute!


32 posted on 06/20/2013 10:05:40 AM PDT by sneakers
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To: upchuck

I’m with you, as long as we use 0.23 instead of 1.23. ;-)


33 posted on 06/20/2013 10:06:30 AM PDT by Jotmo (Whoever said, "The pen is mightier than the sword." has clearly never been stabbed to death.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Nice to hear that but let’s think for a moment... WE STILL NEED A REVENUE COLLECTING AGENCY.

Here's a solution: A sales tax to be paid by consumers, not by businesses or any other organization, and collected by the states. The states would electronically transfer the collected sales taxes to the Treasury. This has some interesting consequences if federal government doesn't respect the 10th Amendment.

I do not think the IRS is involved in collecting excise taxes, other agencies collect and deposit into the Treasury. Check out Fair Tax. I do not advocate the Fair Tax because of the 'prebate', which is another form of wealth distribution. But there are a lot of good ideas in the Fair Tax.

34 posted on 06/20/2013 10:06:39 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: FourtySeven; upchuck; ForAmerica; little jeremiah

OK, let’s first discuss what we ALL agree with :

If conservative cultural and political activity is to continue unmolested in this country, the IRS must be eliminated. It is too disdainful of American mores, and it is too powerful. Neither of those things will change with a new commissioner and whatever is the final disposition of Lois Lerner.

But I do agree with what Greg Richards of The American Thinker proposed as an INTERIM solution while we work out the overhaul of the tax code ( which is the root of all IRS evil ).

While we’re working on the Fair, Flat or Tariffs (whatever), the nation must have a revenue collection agency.

So.... AS A FIRST CUT, let’s RE-STRUCTURE the IRS....

Perhaps the new agency would have six regional and independent divisions. They would be located in offices around the country, and there would be no single IRS commissioner in Washington.

The six agency heads would report to Congress every six months on the activities of their agencies on penalty of perjury. There would be new offices of ombudsman for each regional agency. The ombudsmen would testify to Congress along with the agency heads every six months as to the number and type of complaints they had received and what had been the disposition of those complaints.

All salaries in the new six agencies would start at 10% below the equivalent levels in the current IRS. There would be no union in the six agencies, because the agencies must represent the interests of the country and that alone.

Something like that.


35 posted on 06/20/2013 10:06:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: celmak

36 posted on 06/20/2013 10:07:22 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: little jeremiah
He’s not eligible. We are a nation of laws, not of men. Or should be.

While I agree with you, it certainly didn't stop the Kenyan.

37 posted on 06/20/2013 10:08:15 AM PDT by Marathoner (Impeach Obama, Holder, Big Sis, and throw in IL Gov Quinn for good measure)
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To: little jeremiah

“maybe TX governor”

NOT! I like Ted where he is.


38 posted on 06/20/2013 10:09:08 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (dont worry about Mexico, put the fence around kalifornia.)
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To: celmak

39 posted on 06/20/2013 10:09:15 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: upchuck

>>2. What is 1.23 times the amount from question #1?

Make a check for that amount payable to “US Treasury” and mail to...

That would be a 23% flat tax which seems reasonable.<<

You didn’t push the “math check” button...


40 posted on 06/20/2013 10:09:45 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (To attempt to have intercourse with a hornet's nest is a very bad idea)
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