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THE ZIMMERMAN PROSECUTION HAS A GIANT PROBLEM (see red text below) George Zimmerman....
Greta Wire ^ | 6/29/13 | Greta Van Susteren

Posted on 06/29/2013 11:06:42 AM PDT by blueyon

"THE ZIMMERMAN PROSECUTION HAS A GIANT PROBLEM (see red text below) George Zimmerman re-enactment video with the police BEFORE he had a lawyer and right after the shooting": [I WILL BE IN FLORIDA on MONDAY in COURTROOM. OTR at 10pm will air live from Florida Monday night.]

First, as it stands now, (and ONLY my guess and it is early and much can change) do not expect George Zimmerman to take the witness stand (although he has a Constitutional right to do so if he wants to do so.)

This re-enactment video will help you understand the scene of the shooting according to George Zimmerman and is in his words. It is also a horrible video for the prosecution.

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To: Ecliptic
TM robbed houses in the neighborhood?

I think he very well may have, but the po po (as you put it) wouldn't investigate with that possibility in mind, so we'll never know. But your assertion St. Skittles is innocent because nobody ever proved it is pretty obtuse.

161 posted on 06/29/2013 2:29:56 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Ecliptic
How many of YOU fellow freepers think you have the right to stop stop someone in your neighborhood just because you do not know who they are and they are of another race?

I do, and I don't care what "race" they are.

162 posted on 06/29/2013 2:30:12 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: Ecliptic
And look what the outcome for GZ has been to date: for not waiting on the cops to show up

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Please tell me you're not a man.

163 posted on 06/29/2013 2:32:28 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: hoosiermama

Yes, MOM has all of those text messages. Yes, he can use them on direct examination of Rachael, when she is a defense witness instead of a prosecution witness.


164 posted on 06/29/2013 2:32:46 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: palmer; cynwoody
That might explain why Zimmerman has gained so much weight.

Since this Florida case has only six jurors, maybe Zimmerman would "rather be judged by six than carried by twelve".

165 posted on 06/29/2013 2:32:50 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Ecliptic
You keep making the assertion that Zimmerman confronted Martin. There is no evidence to support this. What we know is that Zimmerman exited his vehicle to see where Martin was headed, then Martin started running and Zimmerman lost track of him. When the Dispatcher told Zimmerman "we don't you to (follow him)," Zimmerman says, "Okay." That's all undisputed fact.

From there, based upon what has been reported in the media and so far at trial, we can infer the following: If Martin were running, that means he's running home. So if Zimmerman followed Martin, that means he's heading towards Martin's residence. But from what we know, based upon Zimmerman's statements and trial testimony, is that the confrontation between them took place near Zimmerman's vehicle, not towards Martin's residence. That lends credence to Zimmerman's statements that as he's walking back to his vehicle, Martin jumped out of the shadows and asked why he was following him, meaning Martin confronted him.

I am interested in knowing what evidence/logic informs you that something other than this happened.

I will agree with you that it is unfortunate that Zimmerman left his vehicle. But as the trainer for the Neighborhood Watch program stated, they train people to follow suspects, not confront them. It appears that Zimmerman did not get out of his vehicle because he was looking for a confrontation, but because he was trying to see where Martin was running so he could tell the police. Again, it appears that he lost sight of him, then was confronted by Martin as he walked back to his vehicle. If these facts bear out (and as stated before, I'm interested in knowing why you think the facts would not bear this out) then I can see no wrongdoing from Zimmerman.

166 posted on 06/29/2013 2:33:39 PM PDT by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, Son of Jor-el!)
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To: Ecliptic
Just because he had a sorted poss does not mean at every waking hour he would be up to no good.

What??? What is that, Ebonics? Sure would explain your posts on this thread.

167 posted on 06/29/2013 2:33:44 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Cyber Liberty; Ecliptic
I think you are just talking out of your ass.

His tagline fits him perfectly.

168 posted on 06/29/2013 2:36:06 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: Ecliptic

“The dispatcher told him not to get out of the car.”
Not true. The dispatcher told GZ not to follow him. According to the Zimmerman reenactment video, he was walking and upon being told this, he replied “OK” and turned around and walked back to his vehicle. He then came upon Martin.


169 posted on 06/29/2013 2:38:14 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Lancey Howard
Robitussin with codeine

I'm having a bit of trouble with this whole "lean" issue. I was under the impression OTC cough syrup hasn't had codeine since the early '60's. I've read about the ingredients of "lean," but where's the readily available codeine cough syrup? That stuff's been a controlled substance for as long as I can remember.

170 posted on 06/29/2013 2:39:37 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: JoeProBono
This one is the "rolex".


171 posted on 06/29/2013 2:40:07 PM PDT by maggief
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

If the trial jury acquits him the feds will retry him on a civil rights violation that they will get a conviction on and send him up for 5 years in the federal pen. A political federal trial will get a conviction. Juries can be made to understand that their future welfare and that of their families can depend on a correct decision.


172 posted on 06/29/2013 2:40:50 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economiws In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: Ecliptic
"The dispatcher told him not to get out of the car."

That is simply not true. The 911 tape clearly shows that Zimmerman says, "He's running," and you then hear him exiting the vehicle. After a few seconds where you can hear the wind, indicating Zimmerman walking fast or running, you hear the Dispatcher asked Zimmerman if he was following him (Martin). Zimmermans says he is, and the Dispatcher then says, "Okay. We don't need you do that." Zimmerman then says, "Okay." (Zimmerman later stated that at this point he starts walking back to his vehicle where he's confronted by Martin along the way) At trial, the Dispatcher stated that his words were only a suggestion, not a command, as they are not allowed to order people what to do for liability purposes.

You're starting to make me think that you're not letting the facts get in the way of your bias. Please prove me wrong.

173 posted on 06/29/2013 2:41:30 PM PDT by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, Son of Jor-el!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

They will try him for violating TM’s civil rights in federal court. Different charge than murder. Gives the government two bites of the apple.


174 posted on 06/29/2013 2:44:02 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: GreatOne

I’ve decided we’re talking to a troll. Spewing the MSNBC talking points. Doesn’t have a clue what a “sordid past” is. LOL!


175 posted on 06/29/2013 2:45:45 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: bigbob

Whether or not it was self defense might just be the least important part of this trial. An evil(the whole idea of neighborhood watches is despicable to the left because it obviously targets black people) white man shot a 12 year old cute negro boy. Those are the relevant “facts” of the case.


176 posted on 06/29/2013 2:47:02 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economiws In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

(Snicker) I admit I had to scroll up to see that. Suddenly the tag makes all sorts of sense. Must be a guy because I don’t know many chicks with butts that narrow.


177 posted on 06/29/2013 2:48:05 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: morphing libertarian

If Eric Holder does try and charge him should he be acquitted, can members of congress do anything to stop him? If not, I would hope there’s at least some outrage expressed.


178 posted on 06/29/2013 2:49:26 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Ronald_Magnus

I think this has been done before in some cases in the south.

Don’t know what can stop holder other than impeachment or massive demonstrations.

How many hispanic groups have spoken for Zimmerman. I know of none.

He’s out there on his own without support.


179 posted on 06/29/2013 2:52:21 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: blueyon

Some of the Things I learned by following the Zimmerman trial on Tweeter.

Posted on June 29, 2013 by Miguel

If somebody is White/Hispanic then he is a member of the KKK.
Travon was 4 years old when killed.
Travon was shot three times.
911 operators give orders that must be followed.
Cursive is a foreign language.
A Defense Attorney cannot have ice cream with family or be disbarred and the client found guilty.
You cannot defend yourself unless brains are coming out of your skull.
If you carry a gun, you are guilty of premeditated homicide.
If you care about your neighborhood and keep an eye on things, you must give up your right to Self Defense.
“They always get away” is racist. “Creepy-ass Cracker” is not.
You are not allowed a day in court or a proper defense because a mob says so.
You can blame anybody of anything if they are on trial. Truth need not to apply.
Cops give the best legal advice.
Zimmerman’s injuries were done after the shooting to cover up the crime.
OK, seriously, WTH is “Black English”?
If the defendant’s account and the witness account are similar, it means automatically they are involved in a conspiracy.

It is fascinating what people think is legal or not. I have the feeling most of their “training” comes from watching re-runs of Law & Order and CSI: Miami. And to think that they are part of the jury pool is downright scary.

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180 posted on 06/29/2013 2:54:36 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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