Posted on 07/01/2013 5:17:35 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
Today, July 1st, is DAY #16 (of 4th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.
Last week the prosecution feebly presented the first series of witnesses against George Zimmerman. However, as most observers would note, the witnesses called by the state have so far been more beneficial for the Zimmerman Self-Defense position.
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I don’t know the train of thought between back & forth comments, Fawn, but is your comment related to concern over lack of expert ability to identify the screamer. ie, the “unreliable” and “waste of time” quotes??
Then you seemed concerned that State would bring that up in closing argument?
If I have this wrong, please clarify.
Because, in a trial where proof of guilt beyond reasonable doubt is the standard, if the State can’t do any better than having an expert say it’s a waste of time and unreliable to try identifying the screamer, that is a GOOD thing for the defense.
All that would help the State’s “case” is if they could establish that it was Trayvonn screaming (of course we know it wasn’t, but just sayin’...). Anything less is a huge defense win.
I think the judge has a crush on Bernie. Every time he talks to her, she’s got a great big smile on her face.
like what???
Good morning ICHING. How’s your mom ?
As I explained last night, there was very good reason for JeanS and Humblegunner to do what they did.
There are so many blog pimps that attack FR, and we don’t have a fence on our border, so someone has to defend it. IChing’s pulled thread had all the attributes of ‘blog pimping’.
IChing’s sign up date made it look like he only signed up to post a link to that blog.
That was not what IChing intended to do, but that is what it looked like. Now we know better, and the problem is being resolved. What more could you want? Should we just let Blog Pimps run rampant on FR ? F.R. would get (deservedly) a bad reputation as just a Redirector for Blog Pimps. We might as well then put ADS on F.R. and let them pay the bills (meaning the advertisers get to call the shots). Is that really what we want ?
Gee, I got banned once, and it wasn’t even my fault. It got straightened out. I have had my threads pulled, for various reasons. I’ve even requested many of my own ‘comments’ pulled. Those of us who have been here a long time have developed a bit of tolerance and understanding, and seen the constant attacks that have to be dealt with.
You have no idea how difficult it is to keep F.R. safe for it’s readership. Besides, I’ve noticed that there are posters who call someone a troll (been called that several times by others, over the years, and called myself a troll, once) and EVERYONE seems to be HAPPY about jumping on the BANDWAGON and RUNNING OFF an innocent poster.
IF you want to blame JeanS and Humblegunner, blame me and everyone else on F.R.
Usually , Humblegunner and JeanS are correct about their complaint. I noticed no complaints when they were right.
But let them make one mistake, and you would think the world is ending.
Besides, IIRC, the ‘thread’ ICHING is talking about contains information from a source that is questionable (not the BLOG, but where the BLOG got the info).
Is this not correct, IChing ?
The parents are the sympathy card.
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Doris Singleton — SPD investigator
that’s really odd. How could he possibly have known of Zimmerman’s lineage?
She’s extremely prejudice...I’m not sure what drives it...
I am just commenting on things I think the State will ‘use’ to their advantage....
Who was the chick in the OJ trial?? Marcia something??
remember the original judge recused because she was married to a CNN commentator. Judges socialize with judges it is probable she had met the comentator and probably others.
For what it’s worth, I did a little Google research and found no instances of West arguing a case before Nelson.
Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen but I didn’t find one.
My personal opinion is that the entire FL criminal “justice” system prides itself on being pro-”law and order” — so there is built-in predjudice against ANY criminal defense team.
That concept has given me heartburn lately. I always considered myself somewhat pro-”law and order”. It’s a scary eye-opener to see how problematic that way of thinking can be as we swing more and more to a police state enforcing social justice rather than fighting crime.
I can start to appreciate how Joe and Mary Upstanding Citizen could look the other way as a totalitarian government established and tightened its grip.
When T discovered that Z was on the phone, I'm betting he assumed (or knew) it was to the police and that he also ran, at that point, just in case Z might attempt to snag a photo of T's face for ID purposes. At any rate, I believe T was really pissed that he was being reported to the police (again)... especially considering his 'recent' run-in with said police (his third suspension from school).
It was a general comment Treyvon uses for most people —is the way I took it.
They should be able to think logically with help from the defense. This is a fabulous point. The evidence of the eye and ear witness most definitely lines up with the defense contention that it had to be Zimmerman screaming. They can nail this so hard in closing argument, and if the jury can’t get that, they wouldn’t get anything else, either.
Marcia Clark
I did not know that! Hmmmm.....
Not just yelling, but yelling in fear of his life. The screams show his state of mind, scientifically. The expert testified the screamer could not be faking fear...
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