Posted on 10/12/2013 11:52:16 AM PDT by Libloather
Guy already delivered the pathetic news of only 51,000 people signing up for Obamacare so far, but to make things worse, young people are still dodging the exchanges like the plague. Cathy Reisenwitz explains why in Forbes:
Experts say that young, healthy people must enroll in ObamaCare’s health exchanges to cover the cost of insuring sicker, older people. It’s a simple math equation: Charge everyone roughly the same rate for access to basically the same product. The people who use it less will subsidize the people who use it more.
The problem with this plan is that it hoses young, relatively poor people like me right when we least need high bills for services they’re not using. And it helps older, relatively rich people who should be able to afford the care they need. If America’s downtrodden and struggling young people are smart, they’ll opt out. Then it’ll be up to the federal government to fine them enough to make up for the shortfall.
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There may be an even bigger issue. According to our younger relatives in their mid 30's to mid 40's, the age group below them is often a cash only society.
If they work, they want cash. They pay by cash or the cash cards available at stores.
The last thing these people want is to turn into IRS their real incomes.
So when it comes to getting on the site and registering with their SSN's, it "ain't" going to happen.
Yes, but the odds of you having a major claim have also risen substantially.
“In all fairness, “freeloading” is the only profession available to most young people today.”
That is BS! Any able-bodied young person could make a pretty good living cutting and selling firewood.
A beat-up old pickup, a chainsaw, and a splitting maul is all that’s required. $200 a day easy, and that would be a short day!
I hear there’s a “smoking” surcharge in Obamacare. Is there a Gay Sex surcharge ???
That has several underlying assumptions. .
1. They have woods available where they are allowed to fell trees, etc.
2. They have a market for firewood. Not too many places in the inner cities have fireplaces anymore, and. . .
3. The EPA or state ALLOWS people to burn wood. (See California for the obvious example of this. . .)
> That is BS! Any able-bodied young person could make a pretty good living cutting and selling firewood.
A few of them could, but they can’t all do that. The math is pretty clear - there just aren’t any jobs for the next generation to take.
Other than Hi,Ca,Fl plenty of people buy firewood, even in cities.
Most farmers would let you cut down-wood and fence-rows.
So who did you and your buddies vote for, Katie Pavlich.?
And assumes USFS is allowing access to its forests and issuing permits for tree harvesting (which they aren't at the moment).
It would be a damn-site more than a few, but there other similar things they can do. There is no excuse for anyone able-bodied to sit on their ass and whine about not having a job.
Actually they moved the deadline to the middle of February because so few people are showing much interest in the program and fewer still have actually been able to sign up. To get the results they need to prove Obamacare is a success they quietly moved up the deadline.
That is totally true in an environment where people can live off the land if they need to.
Today, the federal government owns all that land and will shoot you if you go there without their OK. So that’s a pretty good excuse.
As far as getting a job within the existing economy, there are literally thousands of jobs for tens of millions of young people. Regardless of what happens in any individual case, the math is unavoidable - there simply aren’t jobs for a majority of them.
Try to do something off the grid, get a herd of TLA agents on your butt. Even if you’re 5 and your entrepreneurialism consists of a lemonade stand, there will be cops in your face.
So there is a perfectly good excuse for many of them, which is that their own government is blocking off all their avenues of opportunity, and actively preventing new ones from being created. Government crushing the economy isn’t an abstract thing, it’s very real, with guns and victims and a trail of unemployed and malinvested resources.
Thanks for your keen insight Katie. Is there anything else F-ed up socialism can help you with?
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I’ve always felt this was the real reason for Hillarycare and Obamacare.
We must treat Obamacare like the Catastrophic Health Care fiasco of the late 1980s and early 1990s, and strangle it in it’s cradle.
Good for you! Under the new system you wouldn't have to pay a fine and you might even get a gold star. However the sacrifice you made may not be as great as what young people currently will be asked to shoulder. Just since 1980 the cost of health insurance in comparison to available disposable income for middle income people has increase approximately 5 times.
I also always had car insurance, but personally I never had health insurance until I was 28 years old and it was provided by my employer. Before that I worked in a small family business and we barely scraped by. The only times I went to the doctor was to get small chunks of metal pulled from my eye on a couple of occasions and I paid for that out of my own pocket.
Since I have had insurance the only time I have gone to the doctor is for my employer and also physicals for the FAA and my commercial drivers license which I still have to pay for out of my own pocket. I also had to have my appendix removed which cost $10,000... which is less than a single year's premiums according to my pay check.
Despite irresponsible folks such as myself who had no health insurance when they were young... the system has been working since the country was founded without requiring people to buy health insurance. Some would argue that even with the burden of those who have not always paid when they got sick our system was still one of the best in the world. Somehow doctors, nurses and other health care providers still managed to make a good living. How can that be when so many of us didn't buy health insurance? How did our health care system survive without the government setting priorities and telling everyone what to do?
What a mystery! How can we survive without the government telling all of us what we need?
Really, though, neither big government nor big insurance is your friend. In the old days you didn't have to deal with either of those. Now it is a facistic situation where the boundary between government and the big insurance companies is becoming blurred, as the two entities work arm in arm. The companies basically architected sections of Obamacare and happily implement them when they become law. If people do sign up in large numbers (not looking likely at this point) the large insurance companies will profit handsomely. If people don't sign up, well you will still see the same ex insurance company executives actors being appointed to government boards under HHS when single payer is implemented.
Government health programs like medicare have always been about wealth re-distribution from younger, poorer people that are raising families to older, wealthier people.
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