President Joker: "The American people deserve democracy, and they deserve to get it good and hard."
Posted on 11/21/2013 7:38:13 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike
Market based alternatives need to be floated when the next showdown is due in January.
This will help us understand what will play to Jane and Joe Sixpack when the tipping point finally comes. I'm betting that expansion of the Flexible Savings Account would be one such alternative; even a baby step like moving the limit back to $2600 from the current $2500 per year.
Letting it burn is too passive IMHO. GOP needs to pour gasoline on it and fan the flames!
I’m deeply troubled by this notion that the Republicans should just stand by and let our country be destroyed further. Absolutely we should not try to “fix” or “improve” this atrocity, but to not be offering a clear unified solution (i.e. true free market reform) is the equivalent of watching your neighborhood get looted and just laughing and pointing instead of doing everything possible to stop it.
Beyond any moral argument is the fact that every minute the ACA is allowed to continue, more Free-Government-Sh*t voters are created through massive Medicare enrollments and subsidies. It won’t matter if we have 15 million enraged voters who have lost coverage if the Democrats have 16 million voters who have just hopped on the Big-Government-Gravy-Train.
The best way for Republicans to fight for repeal is to prepare a far better alternative then SELL IT. There are some Republican plans out there but few know about them.
President Joker: "The American people deserve democracy, and they deserve to get it good and hard."
I meant Medicaid there, sorry.
BIG INSURANCE was in on this game. The people that were kicked off their current policies, and if they don’t qualify for Medicaid, will get offered a new policy through the exchanges. I am sure that UHC has policies on the exchanges.
I heard all that before except the shutdown didnt defund Obama-care as it was exempt from shutdowns.
So after that easy to predict failure then the House GOP sent separate funding bills to Senate that had zero to do with defunding Obama and talked about those instead of Obamacare, all while Obamacare rollout was failing but not in news.
And a shutdown did NOT make Reid and Obama blink and pass a Senate bill that defunds Obama, they were never going to do that even if the shutdown lasted a year.
Sheer genius, I tells ya.
AT 2800 pages of legislation, I don’t think the Democrats can do a fix to this. This bill has to be so complicated that any change would affect 100’s of other provisions. But I do agree the Democrats could turn the tide on the wait-and-see Republicans if they can make it look like they are trying to improve the unpopular aspects of the law. The result would be the Democrats are able to weather the storm, and we get stuck with this mess.
Unfortunately, the precedent has been set that Obama can unilaterally change the law by fiat. So, he will just delay the employer mandate for another six months to get past the 2014 elections.
” It established in the minds of the American public that the GOP is firmly on the side of Obamacare Repeal.”
Are you kidding?!?!
No less than the 2008 Presidential Candidate has excoriated Cruz - have you forgotten he called Cruz a “whacko bird”??
One after another chicken-shite GOP partisan lined up to apply similar descriptions to the defund-repeal effort, and the media was more than happy to deliver that message (”GOP in disarray...” to the masses.
No, it’s not the GOP that will be remembered as firmly on the side of Obamacare repeal...it’s Ted Cruz and the Conservative minority. The ones who had the guts to stand up and say it before it was fashionable to do so.
Failure of obamacare by itself might not be enough to repeal it. “What comes next”, a far better alternative will be the spoon full of sugar that helps the medicine go down.
That is EXACTLY what I am worried about. ANY (ALL CAPS...YELLING) attempt on the part of the GOP to "fix" this mess will only lead to the charge of "well, you helped create this." Repeal is the ONLY fight since any fix is also doomed to failure. The GOP needs to be very careful they don't try to fix something that can't be fixed...and thus share in the blame for its failure.
I agree-why not overwhelm the Dems for a change?
And why are Rs required to come up with a healthcare plan?
We didn’t start the whole “healthcare for all” debacle because what was in place, needed fixing— not lit on fire, kicked into a hole and buried under cement.
The healthcare system needed tweaking, not twerking....
Helping???Who said helping???? I was more referring to poking at it..
The Democrats are the ones inflicting harm.
Their supporters will not learn if they are shielded from the consequences of their choices. We’ve been trying to reason with them for decades and have gotten nowhere. In fact we have lost ground. It’s time for them to face the consequences.
They must suffer of they will continue their infantile existence and rot the country from the inside out.
First of all, love the graphic.
Secondly, I don’t agree with the “let it burn” tactic because Democrats aren’t just sitting back watching the fire. They’re plotting and planning and if Republicans let them get out in front of the issue, they’ll lose.
I’m no political guru but I say start the repeal mantra, let the Tea Party get some protests back in the Capitol, in their faces. Don’t argue about any part of Obama, just state the obvious reasons and scream repeal. That will get the argument out in front of the people. Run ads with how many lost, what their options were, and how many are going to lose. And if most people want repeal, what’s the Dem’s excuse for refusing?
Of course it might help if GOP got with non-exchange insurance companies and set up to offer alternatives to those who recently lost their insurance. Getting back into the free market is our only hope but the longer they “let it burn”, the more entrenched it will be.
In fact, put that in ads as well, that the clock is ticking and if Obamacare isn’t stopped, the people will lose their ability to stop it. At that point, the gov’t will be able to charge whatever they want and pick and choose what they want to cover.
IMHO
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