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How Free Trade Is Killing Middle America
The American Conservative ^ | Jan. 24, 2014 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 01/24/2014 6:36:50 AM PST by 1rudeboy

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To: Usagi_yo
Outsourced industry is a result of hostile business conditions that have systematically forced American Manufacturing to foreign (more importantly, less regulated and taxed) sources.

Correct.

Chief among them are onerous EPA regulations, onerous Labor relations, high taxation and high cost of serviceable infrastructure. Mostly political reasons as higher government spending and associated costs just force higher and higher taxation.

Guess who funded the lawsuits to "force" those regulations? It was tax-exempt "charitable" foundations belonging to the investors seeking to profit from moving production overseas, cloaking themselves in "reducing global poverty" while making an artificially inflated profit.

Other reasons are now coming into play as our education system continues to dumb down the work force

Guess who has funded the destruction of the next generation? It was Rockefeller who funded Kinsey and Carnegie and Ford who funded "educational reform."

21 posted on 01/24/2014 7:27:13 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Shwarzenkaiser: fasionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Pietro
There is a new economy coming, not based so much on mass production, but rather mass information.

Please explain . . . if you can.

22 posted on 01/24/2014 7:28:10 AM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason

I not saying that ending Free Trade would be a panacea but with jobs and money coming in we would have the means to solve those other problems. With jobs and money we could afford those higher prices. Without jobs and wealth creation we are dead in the water.


23 posted on 01/24/2014 7:28:23 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: cripplecreek
If we want to bring manufacturing back to America we can only do it through regulatory and tax reform.

Exactly, perfectly correct.

24 posted on 01/24/2014 7:28:30 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether a majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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To: Age of Reason

>> There is a new economy coming, not based so much on mass production, but rather mass information.
>
> Please explain . . . if you can.

With the advent of cheap 3D printing there’s a huge increase of ‘producers’.
Because of Supply & Demand, this means that much production will become cheap — the thing that will go up in demand are people who understand and can use information, already a valuable commodity, which will create a demand for readily accessible information.


25 posted on 01/24/2014 7:32:34 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Iow, *IT’S OUR FAULT*.

Laughable if not so darn sad on so many levels (as comments show).


26 posted on 01/24/2014 7:33:18 AM PST by cyn (Benghazi.)
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To: cyn
It is our fault. We elect these bozos, and they go to DC and tell us we can't use wood-burning stoves (and spend $1.40 for every $1.00 we give them).

I read somewhere that Sweden now has stronger protection of private property than the U.S.

27 posted on 01/24/2014 7:36:35 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Pietro
There is a new economy coming, not based so much on mass production, but rather mass information.

I've been hearing that same garbage for over twenty years. It Hope-y and Change-y nonsense.

28 posted on 01/24/2014 7:39:09 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Vendome
Well, one aspect of Free Trade is that while “Fruit of the Loom” left Oklahoma and other parts of the south, underwear is still very affordable.

So are you one of those economic idiots that think if we made underwear in the USA they would cost $10.00 a pair? What poppy cock; how much labor do think goes into a pair of skivies?

29 posted on 01/24/2014 7:53:06 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

You missed my point.

I wasn’t defending some need to continue free trade.

Rather, I was proposing a reason the disaster of free trade was foisted on us and continues to be foisted on us.


30 posted on 01/24/2014 7:53:21 AM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
The purpose of 'Free Trade' has always been to destroy the American Middle-class.

Just read what Karl Marx said about free trade.

31 posted on 01/24/2014 7:53:56 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Hardastarboard

I also think its time to start cutting taxes at the bottom. Things like payroll and income taxes. The insane way we tax manufacturing has got to go as well.

I think it would be a winner with the people across the board. After all, how can idiots protesting for a higher minimum wage oppose taking less out of their paychecks?


32 posted on 01/24/2014 7:54:43 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: central_va

Marx said that free trade would destroy the middle class. Good to see Marxists on this thread.


33 posted on 01/24/2014 7:56:29 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: OneWingedShark

So what do you do with the bottom 50% who can’t adapt?

You either provide jobs or welfare to them. It’s much better to find work for them to do.


34 posted on 01/24/2014 7:57:41 AM PST by crusher2013
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To: Usagi_yo
onerous Labor relations,

I'd like to check you knowledge in this area:

What is the percentage of manufacturing workers in the USA are in a union?

  1. 10%
  2. 50%
  3. 70%
  4. almost all

35 posted on 01/24/2014 7:58:11 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Maybe this is a better way to say it:

They push free trade on us so they can print money with abandon and not cause inflation.


36 posted on 01/24/2014 7:58:29 AM PST by Age of Reason
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To: 1rudeboy

” The tombstones of countless dead towns across America should read: Killed by Free Trade.”

Killed by unions and automation.


37 posted on 01/24/2014 7:58:51 AM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are Affirmative Action for Slackers! .)
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To: Age of Reason
If everything were made in America again, no one using today’s dollars could afford to buy anything made in America.

That is ABSOLUTLRY NOT TRUE. Labor is just one component in manufacturing, one of the smallest too.

38 posted on 01/24/2014 7:59:29 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Marx said that free trade would destroy the middle class. Good to see Marxists on this thread.

I studied Soviet Naval tactics extensively when I was in the US Navy so does that make me a Communist? Know your enemy is my motto.

39 posted on 01/24/2014 8:02:14 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 1rudeboy
What amazes me about these threads is that eventually everyone admits what is hurting manufacturing jobs in the USA is government intervention in the markets (EPA, Taxes, OSHA, etc.) But then the Unionistas cry that the only way to fix the problem is:

wait for it...

wait for it...

wait for it...

MORE government intervention in the markets!

40 posted on 01/24/2014 8:03:36 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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