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DOT Proposes Mandating Cars Broadcast Location, Direction and Speed
CNS News ^ | 8-27-2014 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 08/27/2014 6:34:34 AM PDT by blam

August 27, 2014
By Terence P. Jeffrey

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, part of the Department of Transportation, published last week an "advanced notice of proposed rulemaking" on "vehicle-to-vehicle communications."

What NHTSA is proposing could begin a transformation in the American transportation system that makes our lives better and freer — or gives government more power over where we go and when.

In announcing its proposed rulemaking, NHTSA is stressing its intention to protect the "privacy" of American drivers.

"This document initiates rulemaking that would propose to create a new Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard, FMVSS No. 150, to require vehicle-to-vehicle communication capability for light vehicles," says NHTSA's dryly-worded notice.

What do vehicle-to-vehicle communications entail?

NHTSA has crafted a nice phrase to describe the information cars would broadcast. It is the "Basic Safety Message."

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(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


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KEYWORDS: cars; dot; government; tracking
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To: blam

Cars already transmit this information via sound, infrared, and visible electromagnetic radiation which is how we avoid collisions now. It’s up to the receiver to process the gigabytes of data already out there. Industry should develop what is useful, not some Fedzilla central planner.


41 posted on 08/27/2014 7:00:07 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Drango
I think all government employees should wear a GPS ankle monitor.

This is a good point. Next time a postal employee goes postal, we can insist that it's for everyone's safety.

42 posted on 08/27/2014 7:00:29 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

“If it saves the life of even one child...”

;’)


43 posted on 08/27/2014 7:05:17 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: dfwgator
At least On-Star is optional, now.

You don't have to buy a GM car. If you do buy a GM car, paying for it so YOU can use it is optional. But, they can always turn it on if THEY feel like it, so unless you disable it (unplug the transmitter, remove the antenna cable, etc.) it's ready to help you, or to "help" you by monitoring you.

44 posted on 08/27/2014 7:05:17 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Steely Tom
"Hey, driving’s a privilege not a right, right? Garbage in, garbage out."

That's one of my favorites! I've been arguing this since I first heard it in grade school.

Driving is no more a privilege than walking on your own two feet. It's absolutely one of our basic natural and Constitutional rights.

45 posted on 08/27/2014 7:08:21 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: blam

46 posted on 08/27/2014 7:10:42 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: blam
"It's for your safety...."

Mileage taxes
Moving violation revenues
Insurance companies cash cow
Big Brother Stare
Vehicle kill switch
Control of steering/ braking/acceleration

Welcome to your mobile gulag, citizen.

47 posted on 08/27/2014 7:11:52 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: blam

The system will not collect or store any data identifying individuals or individual vehicles, nor will it enable the government to do so.”

“There is no data in the safety messages exchanged by vehicles or collected by the V2V system that could be used by law enforcement or private entities to personally identify a speeding or erratic driver,” the report said. “The system — operated by private entities — will not enable tracking through space and time of vehicles linked to specific owners or drivers.”

Then what the hell is the data for?


48 posted on 08/27/2014 7:11:55 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: rktman

use a Tom Tom if I go somewhere when I don’t know where it is which is very rare.
When it’s not being used I take it out of the vehicle and turn it off in the box


49 posted on 08/27/2014 7:12:06 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: blam
At the outset, readers should understand some very important points about the V2V system cell phone system and internet as currently contemplated. The system will not collect or store any data identifying individuals, nor will it enable the government and the NSA to record and keep all conversations.
50 posted on 08/27/2014 7:12:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Resolute Conservative; manc
"Better turn your cell phone off or leave it at home then."

I thought I'd read that 'they' cab still access your phone even when it's off.

Put it in a faraday cage like box?

51 posted on 08/27/2014 7:16:23 AM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: reg45

?? That’s what eyeballs are for.


52 posted on 08/27/2014 7:16:48 AM PDT by SwankyC (Democrats and Republicans agree, govt coercion is OK if it fits your idea of whats OK)
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To: blam

I guess poor people can just walk from now on. $$

:)


53 posted on 08/27/2014 7:18:45 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: blam
Ha, Ha.

My car knows where I am but it won't tell me.

54 posted on 08/27/2014 7:18:47 AM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: Lazamataz

LOL


55 posted on 08/27/2014 7:21:55 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: moovova

More like TCAS.


56 posted on 08/27/2014 7:24:17 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: blam

put those in cars... and within 2 years you’ll start receiving tickets.


57 posted on 08/27/2014 7:36:09 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Steely Tom

“Hey, driving’s a privilege not a right, right?

That’s what they say, however when “privileges” are passed out by the government via laws, wouldn’t the equal protection clause be applicable?

I think one could make the argument that it is...


58 posted on 08/27/2014 7:40:13 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: blam

“Put it in a faraday cage like box? “

I’ve read reports that powered-down smart phones can still be accessed remotely and their microphones and cameras can be activated without this being detectable.

There are a number of shielding pockets and cases on the market, unfortunately we don’t have any way to test them unless we have a buddy in the NSA.


59 posted on 08/27/2014 7:41:34 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: blam; null and void

“We want to pull a Michael Hastings on anyone, anywhere, at any time, for any reason. Make it happen, people!”


60 posted on 08/27/2014 7:42:19 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee! First one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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