Posted on 10/25/2014 11:05:25 PM PDT by Nachum
Here is an exclusive and detailed account of the UCLA Hammer Museum event featuring hokey stick inventor Michael Mann.
This event was notable even before this report for:
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Report on Octber 23, 2014 UCLA Hammer Museum Event “Tackling Climate Change Nationally and Globally”
By Michael Greer (@thetalentscout)
October 24, 2014
Last night I went to the Hammer Museum to hear Michael Mann of Penn State and Brenda Ekwurzel of the Union of Concerned Scientists speak about global warming.
I arrived early and was given a seat in the front row. Some ushers came around and passed out index cards to write questions for Q&A. I was disappointed as I intended to ask Mr. Mann why he fraudulently claimed he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. We were also told there were no pictures of videos allowed to be taken.
The theater filled, interestingly, with an abundance of what I’d call hippies — a lot of Birkenstocks, beards, long hair, leather vests over t-shirts. A tall, wild haired man in tennis shoes, shorts and baseball t-shirt sat in the seat next to me. He greeted me warmly, holding out his hand for me to shake and said his name was Mark, and asked my name. I told him my name as he slouched down in the seat, folding his hands on his chest and stretching his feet out in front of him. He asked what brought me there. I told him I came to hear Michael Mann. He asked what my interest in him was. I told him I would probably disagree with everything he had to say. With that he sat straight up and turned his back to me to talk to the people on the other side of him. When the program started he got out a clip board to take notes. It had sign up sheets on it that said, “Citizens Climate Lobby”.
The moderator, Ian Masters, gave a rather long speech saying there was no doubt that there was global warming (he didn’t use “climate change”) and that man was causing it with use of fossil fuels. He spoke about the insanity of the deniers. He said how Australia had been the pioneer nation that had embraced the reduction of CO2 but recently a “thuggish” PM Tony Abbott reversed their cap-and-trade laws. I had to put my hands on either side of my face to keep my head from exploding.
Michael Mann is a pudgy, bald man in a rumpled suit, but his vanity is revealed by the fact his shoes had two inch heals and lifts. His power point presentation began with these words, “The science is straightforward”.
He said that last year atmospheric CO2 passed the 400 parts per million level (to which I wanted to shout out, “the more CO2 the greener the planet”). He said we are warming and will continue warming. He said we have warmed a little less than one degree Celsius but if we don’t change course we will warm 4 or 5 degrees Celsius in the near future. He said the ocean was warming, the poles were melting and the sea levels were rising.
A picture of a polar bear appeared on the screen and he said they picked the polar bear to be the poster child of global warming to garner sympathy, and that the melting poles would eliminate their habitat. He showed a picture of flooding in Florida. He said their seasonal high tides have caused flooding in the past but the rising seas will cause it to be a permanent problem. To his credit he said hurricane Sandy was not caused by global warming, but that it was made worse by it.
Michael Mann showed graphs and charts we’ve all seen before. He said he was thrust into the center of this debate because of his hockey stick chart. He claimed dozens of studies have supported his theory. He showed a picture of one Republican Congressman who agreed with him.
The next slide said, “Why No Action.” The first slide after, “Why No Action” was a picture of Senator James Inhofe. Mr. Mann thinks the Senator is standing in the way of green energy and the solutions to this global problem. This is the portion I thought was revealing. Mr. Mann said there has been no action because Big Oil, the Republican party (lead by Senator Inhofe) and the evil Koch brothers have poured lots of money in opposing the solutions (translation: don’t vote Republican). He must have mentioned the Koch brothers five or six times during his talk.
Next to speak was Brenda Ekwurzel, Ph.D. with the Union of Concerned Scientists, whose stated purpose is education aimed at increasing support for strong climate legislation (again, don’t vote Republican). She started by saying there has been an unprecedented increase in CO2 not seen in 800,000 years. She spoke of being at the artic in 2011 and there was open water for miles due to the melting poles. She said the ice at the poles has decreased 52%. She spoke of how forest fires are worse because the warming is causing them to dry out (she fails to mention the Federal government not allowing forests to be logged, maintained or cleaned out). She showed pictures of dead crops in the San Joaquin valley as a sign of draught being caused by global warming (again failing to mention the Federal government turning off the water to the valley).
Ian Masters then took over the Q&A portion of the program. He started by saying “scientists don’t make things up”. Michael Mann elaborated by saying he couldn’t make things up because other scientists would challenge him. “We hold each other accountable”, was his answer. But then he calls those who hold him accountable, “deniers”. He said deniers say he is paid by the government to support their policies. He said yes, they get government grants but that money doesn’t go into their pockets, it’s for their research.
Even though I couldn’t ask my question out loud, I did write it on an index card and passed it to the usher. I had put a star on the back of the card so I could tell when Mr. Masters read my card. He made a face as if he ate something sour and put my card on the table. Someone asked why we didn’t just have all cars run on batteries. The reply was “limited funding”. Another question was why we didn’t burn CO2 as fuel. Ms. Ekwurzel said it was too expensive to capture once in the atmosphere. She said CO2 would remain in the atmosphere for centuries. Neither of the speakers mentioned the effect of cloud cover and movement or the Sun on climate.
Someone had pointed out the empirical evidence showed 18 years of no warming and asked how they explained that. Ms. Ekwurzel said some of the techniques they used to collect the data were flawed and when corrected show that wasn’t true. Mr. Mann said many environmentalists think nuclear is a good alternative to fossil fuels but, although he admitted nuclear energy was not his area of expertise, he didn’t think it was a viable choice.
Several people asked about a revenue neutral carbon tax. One asked, “How can Capitalism be destroyed to save the environment”. About ten people applauded enthusiastically. To her credit, Ms. Ekwurzel didn’t think that was necessary but some combination of free markets and regulations was the solution. But she emphasized how critical the situation was. She said we are seeing the artic sheets disappearing even faster than we believed.
Mr. Mann again slammed the Republicans. He said the House Science Committee denies global warming. He said we don’t presently have a carbon tax because the evil Exxon Oil Company was funding disinformation. He said Grover Norquist even supported a carbon tax for a minute until “the brothers from Kansas” got to him.
After the program Mr. Mann signed his book in the lobby. I stood in line with his book. When I reached him I didn’t hand him the book to sign. I opened it and pointed to where it states he won the Nobel Peace Prize and asked him why he made that fraudulent claim. He looked as if I had hit him. A woman standing near said I was rude. I put the book back on the table and left.
I thought the most important and revealing statement made by Mr. Mann was the closing statement he made in response to what “people” could do. He said because this threat has been so politicized the citizens around the world needed to band together “under one flag” to solve the problem globally.
No smoking hot spot1. The greenhouse signature is missing. We have been looking and measuring for years, and cannot find it.
Each possible cause of global warming has a different pattern of where in the planet the warming occurs first and the most. The signature of an increased greenhouse effect is a hot spot about 10km up in the atmosphere over the tropics. We have been measuring the atmosphere for decades using radiosondes: weather balloons with thermometers that radio back the temperature as the balloon ascends through the atmosphere. They show no hot spot. Whatsoever.
If there is no hot spot then an increased greenhouse effect is not the cause of global warming. So we know for sure that carbon emissions are not a significant cause of the global warming. If we had found the greenhouse signature then I would be an alarmist again.
Hmmm...did he sound just like George Jefferson's English neighbor? Any mention of doing research for a lawsuit? How can he dangle that name in front of us and then never come back to it?
bump for later
The guy is a semi-fraud. He might accidentally be right on five-percent of what he says. Beyond that, he’s just an intellectual who lost his way on science.
One of the amazing things about this whole “gimmick” is that they absolutely don’t want you debating them or arguing against their “science”. My usual comeback is....what science exists today, which forbids debate or peer review? There is simply not a single science where talk is forbidden. This alone, leads me to believe that it cannot be a science, and thus is something of a political nature.
I’m waiting for some comedian to invent a science of their very own....forbid anyone from challenging him...and talk of the sky falling almost daily.
UCS climate scientist tells litany of lies denying the 'pause' in global warming satellite data
Thanks. Just put it up on Twitter.
Everything about socialism is sham and affectation. - 23.11 Ch23 Evil; Economic Harmonies; Frederic Bastiat
Pretty sure everyone else in that audience was a mark...
Close enough: Mann isn't a comedian, because he isn't funny. But he is a clown, and all of the rest applies.
Bullshit is the coin of the realm in every facet of American public life. It pains me to start my reply with vulgarity but sometimes there is no substitute. The Communist have assimilated into every environmental organization with the sole purpose of destroying whats left of our industry and innovation.
Special operators have to look over their shoulders because they can’t trust their leaders exemplified by the shoot down of Extortion 17.
We are now under a sustained bio weapon attack because the guy with the pen and the phone won’t use them to stop flights coming in from Ebola hot spots.The Repubs offer lip service and do nothing.In my book they are just as responsible with their feckless,cowardly protestations.
I don’t understand what these criminals expect from good men but I think we are about to find out.We must capture the Senate and purge every stinking RINO out of the party to save the Judaeo-Christian nation established by our Founding Fathers
I think he was pretty clear what his goals were and it had nothing to do with science it had only to do with creating a one world strong-arm government. Gee, I think I have read somewhere how that one ends.
Climate change and global warming are two things that seem to be on the tip of everyone’s tongue. But John Purchase, a retired physicist and engineer, said not many people know what they’re talking about.
"Purchase is currently the president of a program called ScienceConnections, which helps fourth through 12th grade teachers implement the new learning requirements of Common Core.
“The science is very simple and very basic,” Purchase said. “But it is never explained.”
Sheesh. A "retired physicist" using global warming and fear to market his Common Core product. Although he got a physics degree over 50 years ago, he worked primarily as an electronics engineer in the satellite industry. He currently makes a living as a handyman and guitar amp repairman, and is trying to build a business on getting kids excited about science. Through unsubstantiated fear, apparently.
Michael Mann, the guy with the grip on his hockey stick that shoots and never scores...
You are way to kind to this zealot. He is an ideologue with a political axe to grind and he used puffed up, colluded scholarship to do it. There is no other explanation if one reads the frequent email communiques between NASA's Hansen, Mann, and Phil Jones of EA CRU. A bona fide eco-cabal.
Besides cherry picking, omission and outright faking of data that didn't fit the narrative, they conspired between themselves and others so that detractors attempting to credibly "peer review" their work NOT be allowed to voice their objections.
He did this because of ideology and government grants from sympathetic administrations, and he his still doing it.
> I was disappointed as I intended to ask Mr. Mann why he fraudulently claimed he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. We were also told there were no pictures of videos allowed to be taken.
There is simply not a single science where talk is forbidden.
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I assume you mean other than the Global Warming Climate Change Scam, the Settled Science.
But there is another that receives much less attention and is noticed by far too few. That is the HIV Equals AIDS Scam. That phony science has been declared “Settled” as well.
But nevertheless, your point is valid.
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