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Senate Vote on Keystone 59-41
US Senate ^ | 11/18/14 | US Senate

Posted on 11/18/2014 4:39:51 PM PST by Titus-Maximus

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To: oblomov

These three Dems might be in a pickle in January:

“Matt Fuller @MEPFuller
Three Democrats flipped between March 2013 budget resolution amdt on Keystone (62-37-1) and vote tonight (59-41): Coons, Johnson, Nelson.”

They thought they had good reasons to support it in March 2013.


81 posted on 11/18/2014 7:23:46 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Titus-Maximus

Casey D-PA voted Yea


82 posted on 11/18/2014 7:36:22 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: NonValueAdded; ROCKLOBSTER

Angus King had better keep his shabby arse in DC for the holidays. That SOB is going to be taken for a long walk on a short dock.


83 posted on 11/18/2014 11:19:08 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Aßkloünz)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Did we lose because of Mary Landerieu? What happened? Can it come back to vote soon?

King is a rich elitist who wants to turn us into slaves.


84 posted on 11/19/2014 6:28:49 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: ExCTCitizen; Impy; darkangel82; Clemenza; AuH2ORepublican; randita; hockeyfan44; BillyBoy

The consensus seems to be that Jeff Atwater is the successor to Rick Scott for Governor. Adam Putnam might be the better bet for Senator, and he also the Congressional experience in addition to his now two statewide wins. My worry is that the GOP will put up a flake like Atty Gen Pam Bondi. The only other statewide candidate left would be Lt Gov. Carlos Lopez-Cantera, but I don’t know enough about him to rate him.

Of course, Rick Scott himself might feel emboldened to try, since it’s at the end of his second term, but given that he won by the skin of his teeth thanks to a pro-GOP national climate against an unpopular twit, that would probably be unwise (unless his popularity goes through the roof over the next 4 years).


85 posted on 11/19/2014 7:51:40 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Impy

Atwater would have won the gubernatorial race comfortably in both 2010 and 2014, with none of the drama that we got with Scott, and he’s a solid conservative as well. I would think that the governorship would be his for the taking in 2018 (not that the Democrats would roll over and die).

As for Nelson’s Senate seat (which I think will be open in 2018, as Nelson is acting like someone who either will run for governor or retire from politics altogether), yeah, Putnam would be a great candidate, with a fine record in Congress and two statewide wins under his belt. But I don’t think that Bondi is as bad as you depict her, and four more years as AG should give her more gravitas. As for Lopez-Cantera, I don’t know enough about him, either, but he might make a good replacement for Ileana Ros-Lehtinen when she finally retires from Congress (or maybe we’ll need him to run in the FL-26 in 2018 if RINO Curbelo coughs up the district in 2016).


86 posted on 11/19/2014 7:58:56 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I should consider Nelson might retire in 2018, as he will be 76 (and will have been in office continuously, except for a 4 year gap in the early ‘90s, for 46 years). Of course, being that age hasn’t stopped the bipartisan geriatric caucus in the Senate. I’m embarrassed we’ll have a nearly 81-year old Lamar! still parked in the Senate in early 2021, unless we can get President Cruz to offer him an Ambassadorship to Tanzania.


87 posted on 11/19/2014 8:09:29 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; hockeyfan44; Clintonfatigued; SoFloFreeper; darkangel82

Nelson for Governor? Yuck. Senators seem to have had a lot of luck moving to Governor. Frank Murkowski did it. That scum Dayton did it in a good GOP year 2 years after quitting the Senate because he was a joke. Manchin and Nelson need to be kept out.

As for the pipeline, as 4 “no” rats are being replaced by Republicans I guess it will pass 63-37 next year.


88 posted on 11/19/2014 8:56:20 AM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Titus-Maximus

This is just another example of the two critical ways we need to look at anything liberals are involved in:

1. Cui Bono, or who benefits, when bs surrounds and covers up or shrouds their overt or covert actions with any activity with libs in control of where money and power can be gained.

2. Follow the money after #1.

The answer to who benefits when the Keystone pipeline is killed/stalled is simple.

Warren Buffets owns/controls most of the railroad old tank cars and the railroad which bring the oil from Canada to US refineries.

How many of the Rat $inators get a lot of money now and in IOUs from Buffet to keep Keystone dead?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3228704/posts

Warren Buffett’s Massive Railroad Lobby
Muckety ^ | May 5, 2014 | Laurie Bennett
Posted on 11/19/2014, 8:07:04 AM by upbeat5

What do train whistles and Warren Buffett have in common?

If you answered old-fashioned charm, you’re wrong.

The Sightline Institute, a Seattle-based think tank, calls the avuncular billionaire “the man behind the exploding trains.”

Buffett’s company, Berkshire Hathaway, owns Union Tank Car Company, North America’s largest leaser of tank cars. Berkshire also owns BNSF Railway Company, which moves many of those cars.

Again the rat’s MSM has hidden this important fact from us.


89 posted on 11/19/2014 9:55:40 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

WFLA Tampa Bay AM is always saying when Adam is on that he’s the next governor. Both of them (Atwood or Putnam) would be great as Senator or Governor. Bondi is okay.


90 posted on 11/19/2014 11:14:37 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Naturally; it might compete with his precious cash cow peasant subsidised (at the point of the IRS gun) windmills.

With communists and racketeers (I count AK as both regardless of which ideologically camouflaged tarpaulin he tries to hide under) we must always follow the money.

Cha-ching, cha-ching.. $$$


91 posted on 11/20/2014 4:48:36 AM PST by George Varnum (Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light...)
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To: Nowhere Man

Try it, and the regime would call in an air strike on the construction site, and unlike the show bombing of ISIL it would actually kill people. Then the States would face military invasion and martial law occupation (to include civil disarmament and rounding up dissidents), and be ruled by a military despot hand picked by the Caliph, sort of like how Ben Butler ruled LA for the latter part of the ACW - only less compassionate.

The Caliph I suspect is itching for any excuse to do something like that to any State that didn’t vote his way in the last election.
They will be made an example of in order to teach recalcitrant subjects ‘a lesson’.

That’s the Islamofascist / communist / Chicago Mob way.


92 posted on 11/20/2014 5:01:20 AM PST by George Varnum (Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light...)
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To: deport; ROCKLOBSTER

Are there any “I”s in the Senate who don’t vote with the Dems?

One would think some of the sheeple who are paying attention might start seeing through their charade.

Apparently they don’t dare run as what they really are - Socialists at best, and more probably communists.

We still have a few people around old enough to remember, and still harbor negative associations with those labels.

Can’t have that now, can we?


93 posted on 11/20/2014 5:10:53 AM PST by George Varnum (Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light...)
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To: George Varnum
Are there any “I”s in the Senate who don’t vote with the Dems?

No, it's just another word for communist.

94 posted on 11/20/2014 5:27:34 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Nowhere Man; ROCKLOBSTER

Re your question: “I wonder what would happen if the industry and States would just start building the thing? “

Already addressed this in a previous comment.

They would send lots of men with big guns to make you stop, and if you didn’t they would start blowing things up and killing people.

Try sending in the militia like Patriots did at the Bundy showdown and you’ll probably find out what almost happened to them.

The regime, IMHO, is not the least bit afraid of a “civil war”; I think they want one so bad they can taste it.
It would give them an excuse to do what they have longed to do to what’s left of our Republic for years now.

That may actually be what Ferguson is all about.
Stay tuned on that deal.


95 posted on 11/20/2014 5:30:31 AM PST by George Varnum (Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light...)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Re. your #83: Don’t forget it’s still hunting season up in the County.

Accidents have been known to happen.


96 posted on 11/20/2014 5:33:35 AM PST by George Varnum (Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light...)
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To: George Varnum
Try it, and the regime would call in an air strike on the construction site, and unlike the show bombing of ISIL it would actually kill people. Then the States would face military invasion and martial law occupation (to include civil disarmament and rounding up dissidents), and be ruled by a military despot hand picked by the Caliph, sort of like how Ben Butler ruled LA for the latter part of the ACW - only less compassionate.

Hopefully most of the military will not do that and turn on the Feds. Even so, if we accept your premise as a given, hopefully the National Guard and State Police/Highway Patrol (in the case of Texas, the Texas Rangers) would come in to stop or fight the invasion.
97 posted on 11/21/2014 9:14:22 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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To: Nowhere Man; ROCKLOBSTER

Who is saying that the military forces attacking and occupying dissident - non compliant States would be American?

There are plenty of UN (mostly Muslim) and Mexican troops who would be delighted to have their way with us Gringo Kafir for a couple of years.

After that there would not be much left.

Good luck holding off an organized government sponsored military force with your ARs and AKs for very long.

Probably better to die fighting than endure what they will do to us if they take us alive - but what about your family? Are you going to Masada them to keep them out of the clutches of a rapicious occupying force?

I think most Governors know what the odds are and after making obligatory noises of protest will fold like a cheap Wal Mart picnic umbrella.


98 posted on 11/22/2014 11:04:20 AM PST by George Varnum (Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light...)
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