Posted on 01/04/2015 4:27:55 AM PST by Seattle Conservative
Rep Louie Gohmert was just on Fox and Friends and has thrown his hat in the ring to be Speaker. Whoo Hoo!
Will post link to article when one comes up
Louie’s announcement coming back up on FNC soon.
Great! Go Louie!
“even if this goes NO further than it is now - boehner is irreparably damaged. Good.”
That is correct. His mask is finally removed. Finally. Took too dang long IMHO.
But a House member was on Hannity last Friday who explained the House rules. You need a full majority to be Speaker. Ticket splitting only delays the inevitable. Even a small but determined group of outraged congress members can topple Speaker [Bleep!].
Dems can/will vote for boehner. Such votes can and will give boehner the absolute majority - If 46 repubs vote nonBoehner [and they may] then Nancy gets 18 Ds to vote for boehner and voila - boehner is speaker due to Dem votes.
That may more damaging to boehner than resigning. What a horrible thing to have written about you - elected by the opposition b/c your own party didn’t want you enough to elect you....
And although i don’t know the rules - I’d be willing to bet that such an occurrence would spur the Rs to unseat him and elect someone else.
...need a House rules person in here...
From Wikipedia:
“It is expected that members of the House vote for their party’s candidate. If they do not, they usually vote for someone else in their party or vote “present”. Those who vote for the other party’s candidate often face serious consequences, up to and including the loss of seniority. The last instance where a representative voted for the other party’s candidate was in 2000, when Democrat Jim Traficant of Ohio voted for Republican Dennis Hastert. In response, the Democrats stripped him of his seniority and he lost all of his committee posts.”
Regardless of the above, as others have noted, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if Pelosi and Boehner have made a deal and Pelosi has “allowed” just enough crossover votes by the Dims with no harm coming to them wrt seniority, committee assignments, etc.
From Georgetown law: http://gai.georgetown.edu/can-boehner-be-removed-from-office/
Article 1, Section 2 of the Constitution establishes the position, and states that “The House of Representatives shall choose their Speaker and other officers; and shall have the sole power of impeachment.” Neither the Constitution nor the rules of the 113th Congress state anything specific about removing the Speaker.
The Jefferson Manual, written by Thomas Jefferson when he was Vice President, and used by the House as a supplement to its standing rules, in Section 9 states that “A Speaker may be removed at the will of the House and a Speaker pro tempore appointed.” But even that clause may not necessarily apply to removing a Speaker, as it follows examples of Speakers being replaced due to illness, and the appointing of Speakers pro tempore in those instances.
Nevertheless, it’s generally believed that a Speaker can be removed, which would be executed by a Member offering a resolution declaring the Office of the Speaker vacant. Such a resolution would be considered a question of constitutional privilege, and therefore a privileged motion, although again, it’s never been done. So the answer is there is no explicit procedure for removing a Speaker either in the Constitution or in the Rules of the House of Representatives for the 113th Congress.
> “What a horrible thing to have written about you - elected by the opposition b/c your own party didn’t want you enough to elect you....”
Yes, Thad Cochran in the Senate and his puppet-master McConnell would know how to handle that scenario....
> “And although i don’t know the rules - I’d be willing to bet that such an occurrence would spur the Rs to unseat him and elect someone else.”
Yes, very good insight as ‘spur’ is the operative word here.
If the rules allowed a point of order to force the democrats to vote first, then Conservatives who are sitting on the fence should surely be ‘spurred’ to vote for someone else other than Boehner.
ICYMI: Just announced on @ffweekend that I am offering my name as a candidate for Speaker of the House http://t.co/7gH3f1PGwI— Louie Gohmert (@replouiegohmert) January 4, 2015
Thanks! :-)
Please contact your Reps and tell them to vote against Boehner!
http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/
I normally listen to the last hour of Hannity’s radio show on the drive home from work. I got super jazzed the other day when I turned on the radio and heard Louie subbing for Sean as host.
"We need to step the bi[o]tch down." Fixed it for me. ;)
It's our party, not his or anybody else on the Hill. We elect them, we pay them and pay for them, they will dance to our tune or be out. ALL the way out. No exceptions. This ain't the usual tiddlywink go along to get along game BS. This is the end game, toe the line or blow. EOM
Man, are we the unfortunate name club or what?
We have a Yahoo, a Boner, and a Gomer running for speaker. Just saying.
All Representatives vote for the Speaker of the House.
And, Boehner doesn't need a single Democrat vote to win. All he needs is enough Democrats to abstain or vote "present". The Speaker is elected with a majority of the votes for an individual, and abstentions aren't included in the total.
This is similar to how a leftist Republican has been elected Speaker of the Texas House of Representatives for the past few legislative sessions. He has put together a coalition of the remaining Democrats and a handful of Republicans.
As I posted above, Democrats don't even have to vote "for" Boehner. All they have to do is abstain or vote "present".
The Speaker is elected with a majority of the total votes for an individual. Abstentions subtract from the total.
“If the rules allowed a point of order to force the democrats to vote first, then Conservatives who are sitting on the fence should surely be ‘spurred’ to vote for someone else other than Boehner.”
I don’t know the rules, but I really like this idea.
“If the rules allowed a point of order to force the democrats to vote first, then Conservatives who are sitting on the fence should surely be ‘spurred’ to vote for someone else other than Boehner.”
I don’t know the rules, but I really like this idea.
No one would challenge Boehner.
Then, yesterday, Yoho announces that he is.
Now, Gohmert announces.
Doesn’t that defeat the purpose of the rebellion by having multiples now? Why could the rebels not unite behind one guy to show unity and support and cohesion?
Yeah it’s something isn’t it - that there will have to be a deal between the leader of the R party with the leader of the D party to deliver the speakership?
Wow.
...it will be just as easy to deliver 18 boehner votes as 35 abstentions... imo it will be a combination that gives boehner the speakership... there’s a good math problem in there somewhere ;)
Where I’m spending my time this morning is thinking about what will happen after boehner is elected via a deal with pelosi.
outrage for sure - but what CAN happen? A sitting speaker has never been removed but experts agree that it is possible...
good times...
Thanks for that information.
Do you know if a point of order can be raised to have the democrats vote first?
That way GOP members can know ahead of time how many of their votes are needed to oust Boehner.
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