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1 posted on 02/02/2015 8:26:07 AM PST by Reverend Saltine
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I guess Jews are liberal for the same reason blacks vote Democrat: Stockholm syndrome.


2 posted on 02/02/2015 8:34:36 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Obama: 8 acts of blatant treason and counting.)
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The problem is trying to do the benefits of the kingdom of God, but without a God. It happens in the nominal circles of both Judaism and Christianity.


3 posted on 02/02/2015 8:34:40 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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I wonder if there is not a “conservation of good” principle operating there.

Jews have given the world much in the areas of intellect, science, and music. But they have taken perhaps much more from the world due to their inexplicable dedication to the idiocy of liberalism.

There appears to be a similar sub theme associated with African Americans and music ...they have given us Scott Joplin, Jazz, Gospel music, and more, but have more than negated it with rapp (the “c” is missing) and associated drivel oozing from no-talent felons.


4 posted on 02/02/2015 8:34:43 AM PST by Da Coyote
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5 posted on 02/02/2015 8:34:44 AM PST by Reverend Saltine (Saltines are dry and make you thirsty. And then you want more and you get thirsty-er....)
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Abortion, AKA self-inflicted genocide.


6 posted on 02/02/2015 8:34:53 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the fascists.)
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Pretty simple really - rejection of Christianity.


7 posted on 02/02/2015 8:35:39 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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After thousands of years of persecution, Jews just want to be liked.


9 posted on 02/02/2015 8:37:31 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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I think Jewish devotion to radical Left politics originated in Europe as a response to anti-Semitism, especially in Eastern Europe. In Russia, under the czars, and in other parts of Europe, Jews were often prohibited from owning land and were herded into ghettoes and were the target of state sponsored pogroms. Of course many were downtrodden and impoverished. This environment may have caused many to embrace Marxism, Bolshevism, and Socialism and this radical politics was brought with them when they immigrated to America.


10 posted on 02/02/2015 8:37:48 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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The title should be 'WHY ARE AMERICAN JEWS LIBERAL?'

American Jewry hasn't had to put up with what real Jews living in Israel have had to suffer , but let's advance a bit of understanding to our American Jews.

They are like many of us: born with silver spoon in their mouth and were coddled and babied through a pleasant childhood. Most all Jewish families were savers and are high achievers in the workplace. They pay taxes and rarely complain because they're LIBERALS. They want to spread other peoples' money around in the hope that it will solve problems inherent in American society.

Many have lost their religion, but still hang on to a few battered tenets of it.

Perhaps if someone like Chuckie Schumer had a rocket launcher shot up his ass he'd have a different outlook on what liberalism has wrought. Jews assimilate. Muslims never will.

11 posted on 02/02/2015 8:38:37 AM PST by HomerBohn (God is just, but his justice cannot sleep forever!)
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...liberalism has become more than a political outlook. It has for all practical purposes superseded Judaism and become a religion in its own right. And to the dogmas and commandments of this religion they give the kind of steadfast devotion their forefathers gave to the religion of the Hebrew Bible. For many, moving to the right is invested with much the same horror their forefathers felt about conversion to Christianity.


I believe God had a phrase for it: Stiff necked people.

Liberalism is their new Golden Calf.


13 posted on 02/02/2015 8:39:21 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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Socialism isn’t about helping the masses, it’s a psychological method to get the masses to accept the totalitarian control of those who consider themselves “masters.”

Jews generally consider themselves the “chosen” and are not known for their insecurity. In fact, overall they think pretty highly of themselves.

So it is not a surprise that people who call themselves the “chosen” would be attracted to a method of totalitarian political control which requires “masters” to run it.


16 posted on 02/02/2015 8:45:17 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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They’re liberal in many cases because if you’ve got three JEWS, they’ve got four opinions ... LOL ...


18 posted on 02/02/2015 8:46:31 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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It goes back to the days of the Gospels. They’ve been choosing Caesar over God ever since.


19 posted on 02/02/2015 8:47:25 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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Wow! Talk about painting a group of people with a broad brush!

I don’t recall my ballot asking my race, or religion, did yours?

I don’t recall answering any of those types of questions when I registered to vote, did you?

So how does the author derive a figure of 57% of Jewish voters as voting for Obama without noting that 43% did not?

Why doesn’t he cite figures for Jewish registered voters who didn’t vote at all?

The fact of the matter is, he has NO way of knowing any of the information he spouts off.

Furthermore, if the article’s author had even an inkling of Jewish history, he’d be able to answer his own question of why some Jews are liberals, but he’d also ask why some Blacks and Hispanics, Asians, Indians, Irish, French, German etc. are conservative.

What I see is a poorly written hit piece, devoid of truth.


21 posted on 02/02/2015 8:48:43 AM PST by PrairieLady2
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At this point in time, Jews who are liberal are just choosing to assimilate and disappear as Jews more slowly than those who just convert out. Liberalism to Jews is little more than a fashion statement. Everyone wants to be one of the cool kids.

Religious Jews are seldom liberal.


27 posted on 02/02/2015 8:57:46 AM PST by hlmencken3 (“I paid for an argument, but you’re just contradicting!”)
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Hasn’t Norman wrote on this before?

Personally after 57 years watching what I failed to notice till I was around 25

It’s partly Jewish lack of Messiah and path to afterlife which leads to Utopian quests for earthly life and to leave earth better place than when one lived here

Hence really dovetails with change and progress since status quo is not ever good enough

Jews tend to be clustered in urban life.....that lends oneself to government need for order and services

An irrational fear of Christianity and tradition borne originally of not so irrational genesis but this is America not Germany 1930s

Jews tend to create or walk into the same trap for themselves over and over aside from just being likely targets

Trust me the black and brown waves streaming into USA will one day turn on Jews as 1%ers even though the Left has engineered this demographic winter for old America

Many if not most American Jews are agnostic or atheist and keep Judaism as a cultural tradition for holidays and who they tend to marry to keep said tradition alive and parents happy

Not to say all not believers are liberals but the incidence of conservatism higher in believers....of western religion

Nor are most Religious Jews conservative politically....in fact...they are not but most freepers wishfully think otherwise after several posted here for years

But the most common reason is who the bulk today are. They are Eastern European Ashkenazim who brought collectivism and anti pluralism to our shores with them....the early Pre Revolution and Antebellum Jews were no different than Gentiles and they came from different parts of Europe

It’s just how it is....providential

It’s a pity....given their media and Hollywood influence if they turned it would change America

More Sarnoffs and less Weinsteins and Katzenbergs


28 posted on 02/02/2015 8:57:59 AM PST by wardaddy (glenn beck is a nauseous politically correct conservative on LSD)
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its really simple....... DEMOCRAT POLITCIANS ARE CHEAPER TO BUY THAN REPUBLICANS... ONLY GENTILES PAY retail
and there you have it...also there is the STUPIDITY FACTOR....
grandpop and grandmom voted dem... daddy and mommy voted dem.... i must keep up the STUPID TRADITION....
I am sure all the JEWS are estatic over Obama’s treatment of israel.... and yet STUPIDITY overrides REASON.... and they voted for him twice... double stupid.
CAPITALISM has raised more people from poverty to middle and upper classes than any other ISM....
Another factor is the intellectual appeal of the unicorn and fairy dust and nirvana..... despite the fact that communism hasn’t nd wont work on the face of this earth and communism has kiile hundreds of millions of people.... REJECTION OF FACTS AND REALITY OF HUMAN NATURE...


29 posted on 02/02/2015 8:59:30 AM PST by zzwhale
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Michael Medved in his autobiography Right Turns asked that very question to his parents. He wrote that it was because Jews identified themselves with the Democratic Party for so long that they couldn't think of an alternative.
31 posted on 02/02/2015 9:04:46 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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The “Progressive” movement is a conspiracy of ideas to forge a Global Culture in direct opposition to the G-d of Israel and His Law. -FReeper Torahman

I love quoting other FReepers. It makes me feel so...important.

38 posted on 02/02/2015 9:23:13 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (American Jobs for American Workers)
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BOL: As the late Jewish scholar Milton Himmelfarb said in the 1950s: "Jews earn like Episcopalians"—then the most prosperous minority group in America—"and vote like Puerto Ricans," who were then the poorest.
40 posted on 02/02/2015 9:23:35 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Will French, German & Belgians make anti-terror raids on our White House, AG Dept and Homeland Sec.?)
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