Over 100 Measles Vaccine Deaths, Zero Measles Deaths, Since ’04

The New American ^ | 2/16/2015 | Alex Newman

[HomerBohn]

How's that Ebola catastrophe thing coming along, Barry?

The vaccines are today's scam of the month.

Dr. Zuelzer's "Pediatrician and the Species," an American socialist amongst Margaret Sanger's Progressive cult, addressed the Brits on how to weed out the weak, nip them in the bud and murder them in the crib - to save money for society and purify the race, of course, all in the name of love and compassion.

[Ingtar]

Ignores a truth: without the vaccinations, how many more cases and deaths would there have been? History suggests, the 100 deaths would pale before the count.

[jocon307]

I don’t see how this can be discussed without accounting for the people who did not die of measles precisely because they were vaccinated against it.

[fooman]

Bump. Vaccine research data needs to be disclosed by the CDC.

[Wolfie]

Some of these people should be very careful at crosswalks...not sure they have the mental firepower to work with that logic either.

[Diogenesis]

History will record that EV-D68 and measles
and worse were “GIVEN” to the American people
by the undocumented Tyrant and his rear-licking,
self-EXEMPT, 113th Congress.

[Politically Correct]

Don't lump all vaccines together just because one doesn't perform as advertised.
I'm old enough to remember polio and old enough to have a friend that caught it.
And glad that small pox is just a historical note in the textbooks.

[traderrob6]

This rational is too ridiculous to even be characterized as specious.

[corkoman]

How dare you inject reason and insight into the discussion.

[tiki]

How many children actually had measles in the last 10 years?

This is the kind of reasoning/fear-mongering worthy of a liberal.

Until 2000 measles were considered eradicated from the U.S., so there should have been zero deaths a year from measles.

[FirstFlaBn]

was sold for $1 dollar

Anyone with sub-3rd Grade writing skills should not be allowed near the internet. Attention to detail matters when lecturing others.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

I don’t see how this can be discussed without accounting for the people who did not die of measles precisely because they were vaccinated against it.

Nor do I.

It’s probably not directly analogous, but what pops into my mind is Thomas Sowell’s point about Russian Roulette. He points out that you can “prove" that Russian Roulette is not harmful, by interviewing everyone who has played it. You won’t get a single response from anyone it hurt.

[where's_the_Outrage?]

OK, what is the response to Snopes?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/mmrdeaths.asp

[Bogey78O]

And during times of peace, more soldiers are killed in training accidents than by enemy action.

That’s why anyone who considers themselves a patriot should demand the abolition of the US military. Right?

The vaccine is still preferable to the alternative rill measles is eradicated the same as smallpox. If you want to stop the deaths, work to eliminate the disease rather than dragging heel and prolonging it.

[so_real]

Ignores a truth: without the vaccinations, how many more cases and deaths would there have been? History suggests, the 100 deaths would pale before the count.



Actually, "the truth" is that measles deaths were reduced to less than 2 per 100,000 cases more than a decade before the measles vaccine was even created. I'm on board with vaccinations for truly life threatening diseases given at more appropriate ages that haven shown to be effective. But I am entirely unconvinced that current measles, mumps, and flu vaccines fall into that category.

[samiam1972]

My dad had polio when he was a kid. They said he would never walk again but he is a very determined man. However, he does have a seriously mangled leg that probably won’t support him much longer. He is in his 70’s now. I understand why some families don’t want to vaccinate their children. There are religious purposes/aborted fetal cell issues in some. I don’t care. After seeing/hearing what my father went through, I’ll definitely do most vaccinations for my kids! Skipping the Gardisil for the girls.

[Rodamala]

Ultimately, natural order (some would say God's Will) would allow those that survived a bacterial or viral infection to pass on some form of immunity to these contagions. Science has fiddled with that, and we are now breeding Democrats that, by rights, should have died off in the winter freeze because they refused to chop and stack firewood all summer long.

Not sure if that analogy is a very good one, but maybe you catch my drift.

[Bogey78O]

OK, so the true number is 4 dead in the ten year timespan.

The article sorta got a big part of its argument wrong.

[SumProVita]

Alex Newman needs to do better research. The headline statement of the article is not accurate: http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/mmrdeaths.asp

There is an accurate report on how the vaccine has been so successful against measles here: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/meas.html I know people are reticent to accept government related information these days, but this report covering the history of the achievement of practically wiping out measles is well done and based on good, solid information.

On the other hand, what seems to be missing in discussing this is the FACT that most measles (and several other) vaccines these days are produced using the aborted baby cell line. You don’t hear that much at all about this disgusting situation. Measles and other vaccines can easily be made in a more ethical manner and have been but the influence of our government (and others) has had them opt for the aborted cell line. Merck is one of the most egregious companies in doing this. If the demand to provide more ethical vaccines was strong enough, they would do so. It’s past time for a LOT more people to speak up about this!

Merck used to make ethical and non-ethical cell lines...but now use only the aborted cell line. Personally, I refuse to use their vaccine for Shingles because of this. They are the only company who makes Shingles vaccine.

Overall, there needs to be a great deal more attention paid to how vaccines are tested and used. There has not been sufficient research done in this area....particularly in recent years. Vaccines have saved many lives, but there have also been some problems associated with some vaccines or with the way they have been administered. It is not liberal v conservative issue at all. It’s simply a matter of common sense and wisdom with regard to the best ways to safeguard human beings.

[Bogey78O]

So at current population and past trend, there would be a “small” 700-800 dead per year... and of course an insignificant number of miscarriages, deafened, and brain damaged. While with the vaccine we see an incredibly large 100 dead!

So either a trifling 800 or a sizable 100! Hmmmm... Which would I rather, indeed.