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The rush to humiliate the poor (Milbank upset about EBT reform)
washingtonpost.com ^ | 4/7/15 | Dana Milbank

Posted on 04/08/2015 5:53:55 AM PDT by cotton1706

Rick Brattin, a young Republican state representative in Missouri, has come up with an innovative new way to humiliate the poor in his state. Call it the surf-and-turf law.

Brattin has introduced House Bill 813, making it illegal for food-stamp recipients to use their benefits “to purchase cookies, chips, energy drinks, soft drinks, seafood, or steak.”

“I have seen people purchasing filet mignons and crab legs” with electronic benefit transfer (EBT) cards, the legislator explained, according to The Post’s Roberto A. Ferdman. “When I can’t afford it on my pay, I don’t want people on the taxpayer’s dime to afford those kinds of foods either.”

Never mind that few can afford filet mignon on a less-than-$7/day food-stamp allotment; they’re more likely to be buying chuck steak or canned tuna. This is less about public policy than about demeaning public-benefit recipients.

The surf-and-turf bill is one of a flurry of new legislative proposals at the state and local level to dehumanize and even criminalize the poor as the country deals with the high-poverty hangover of the Great Recession.

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To: Dusty Road

Actually, we need gov to get out of the charity business.

It doesn’t take a government to hand someone a sandwich.


21 posted on 04/08/2015 6:15:35 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: Qiviut

People can’t buy pet food, personal necessities and medicine on EBT.

Hello - it only funds food. But now you have Scrooges who think even a food program is demeaning.


22 posted on 04/08/2015 6:16:34 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard; a fool in paradise

merge all welfare into a monthly cash dole and fire 90% of the bureaucrats (without actually cutting benefits) and see how the leftist media whines. Most welfare cost is bureaucracy I hear.


23 posted on 04/08/2015 6:17:13 AM PDT by GeronL (CLEARLY CRUZ 2016)
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To: cotton1706

So, Dana, tell me why “the poor”

SHOULD

be able to buy luxury foods that those who are
actually paying for them can’t afford.

Go ahead. Drop the emotional BS and tell me why this is OK.


24 posted on 04/08/2015 6:17:41 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: goldstategop

Don’t want to have someone telling you what you can and cannot buy to eat? Then pay for it with your money NOT mine.


25 posted on 04/08/2015 6:17:45 AM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: goldstategop

Seems like someone straightened you out on this point yesterday. Do you remember?


26 posted on 04/08/2015 6:17:55 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: cotton1706

27 posted on 04/08/2015 6:18:09 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: cotton1706

You can’t humiliate those without shame.


28 posted on 04/08/2015 6:19:16 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: goldstategop
People confuse EBT with welfare

I guess then that it is actually a gift card, since I see people buying $8.99 6 packs of microbrew with cash and their food with EBT.

29 posted on 04/08/2015 6:19:32 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: goldstategop

If I am forced to Pay for what people eat, It is my business.


30 posted on 04/08/2015 6:19:35 AM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: cotton1706
Never mind that few can afford filet mignon on a less-than-$7/day food-stamp allotment; they’re more likely to be buying chuck steak or canned tuna. This is less about public policy than about demeaning public-benefit recipients.

Then the bill will have no effect, if this is true. So what is the problem?

The fact that there are anecdotes all over the place from people who witnessed such purchases proves the lie.

31 posted on 04/08/2015 6:19:47 AM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: goldstategop

No, sometimes there are obvious cases of abuse.

Exercise discernment and confront the fraud where you see it.

I’m against Gubbermint telling you how to live your life just as much as you are, but I also see (daily) a lot of sloth and abuse. I don’t live in the best neighborhood. Lots of able bodied people not even attempting to go look for work. People on public assistance for 10+ years. Quite a few homeless. A lot of these people choose (through their life choices) to live this way.

I work 12+ hour days most days. It’s disheartening to see what I see almost every day.


32 posted on 04/08/2015 6:20:04 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: fruser1

Eggs, cabbage, carrots, potatoes and rice are fine too.


33 posted on 04/08/2015 6:20:21 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Boogieman

Its human nature to judge others.

There is welfare for the well-off who don’t need it.

No one is eager to abolish it.

Why? Because of PACs and K Street lobbyists on hand to protect it.

The poor have no such advocate.


34 posted on 04/08/2015 6:20:21 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Travis McGee

bump


35 posted on 04/08/2015 6:20:56 AM PDT by GeronL (CLEARLY CRUZ 2016)
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To: goldstategop

“There is fraud but Republicans have no business playing food police.”

Okay, who else is going to police the fraud?

“If Battin wants to keep junk food off people’s tables, let him set the example for his own family.”

It’s not about “junk food”, it’s about fraud. If people are buying “junk food” with these benefits, they obviously don’t need the benefits.

“And keep his nose out of other people’s shopping decisions. I hate fascist bullies, whether they’re on the Left or on the Right.”

When people applied for public assistance in this area, they made their shopping decisions the public’s business. This is not “fascism”, this is our elected representatives trying to be good stewards of the public purse that they are entrusted with.

“I don’t like government managing my personal life for me.”

Then rely on yourself and don’t come begging at the government’s doorstep.


36 posted on 04/08/2015 6:20:59 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Right Brother

Sorry but you can’t purchase alcohol with EBT.


37 posted on 04/08/2015 6:21:15 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Is that the best argument you’ve got? A logical fallacy?


38 posted on 04/08/2015 6:22:16 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: cotton1706

4 charged in alleged food stamp, child care benefits scheme

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3276841/posts


39 posted on 04/08/2015 6:22:19 AM PDT by digger48
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Usually involves an obese obviously poor person and a full basket of various steaks. I’d estimate 50+ pounds.

At my local store, 50+ pounds of steak is $500+ dollars. How much food stamp money do you think people get?

40 posted on 04/08/2015 6:22:35 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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