The truth will come out.
You're correct on that presumption of what happened , it would explain the seven (7) head shots that po-lice report stated .
This is an hypothesis I have, which explains and joins most of the various versions of events, including PD and non-PD witnesses. Of course, these are all rumors at this point. But this theory does tie up most versions in one plausible explanation.
It’s a given that ATF and Waco SWAT were already on scene, around the Twin Peaks, both in uniform and undercover, or concealed in vehicles.
It’s been stated in numerous accounts that a first scuffle broke out in the bathroom. Some allege that an undercover cop was wearing “false colors” into the Twin Peaks and was called out over it in the bathroom. IOW, the u/c false biker’s cover was blown. In the bathroom, it became heated, and the u/c cop pulled out his pistol, “badged up,” and tried to get out of the restaurant. Angry pushing ensues, possibly involving other brandished knives/pistols.
On the Waco PD tactical radio channel, all of the SWAT officers outside are hearing, “Officer in peril! Officer is being assaulted! Officer in trouble! Officer has weapons pointed at him! Officer needs help!”
As the little crowd (u/c cop with blown cover, surrounded by angry bikers) emerges from the Twin Peaks onto the parking lot, the already-present SWAT snipers have drawn beads on the Cossacks around the u/c false biker cop. The SWAT guys know who the officer is by a “telltale” such as a unique bandanna etc. They see knives and or guns being pointed at the u/c officer as he tries to flee the scene, his cover utterly blown.
One of the SWAT snipers perceives that the u/c cop is in immediate danger, and shoots one of the Cossacks who is holding a weapon, dropping him. After the first shot is made, it’s a case of “sympathetic shooting.” This was first discussed after the NYPD shooting of the unarmed Amadou Diallo in 1999. Basically, once ANYBODY fires a shot, all the cops will empty a magazine. “Shooting is shooting,” the brain just perceives a battle, not a one-way massacre.
So each of the SWAT snipers, firing scoped semi-auto carbines or scoped bolt guns, “takes out” one or more of the Cossacks around the “officer in danger.”
In the aftermath, the Waco PD has to cook up an alternative “gang war” story to cover their own disastrous actions, from sending in an u/c biker whose cover could be blown, to having a SWAT team on a hair trigger waiting outside, to the ensuing “sympathetic shooting” sniper massacre.
In this case, ballistics and blood trails will tell the tale. Even if the Waco PD tried to sanitize the scene, CSI-wise. Even if the Waco DA tries to strong-arm all 170 arrested bikers into signing “no lawsuit” gag agreements under threat of prison and financial ruin.
The above is just a theory I’m positing, a theory that to my mind explains all the known facts.
The truth will come out.
OK, sounds pretty credible to me.
Guess we shall see.
Thanks.
I say You are SPOT ON Sir!
You're correct on that presumption of what happened , it would explain the seven (7) head shots that po-lice report stated .
A most astute analysis, noted for future.
Probably very close to what really happened. Thus the need for official obfuscation, illegal detainment, and unreasonable bail. Afterall, the ATF was on-scene, and that fact right there should indicate to everyone what they need to know. Keystone cops anyone?
1) Your story is plausible.
2) It would make a great beginning for a series of dystopian SHTF novels. Not that you would have any interest in writing dystopian SHTF novels.
Thanks Travis for pulling this information together. As you say, ballistics and blood trails will tell the tale.
In looking at the time-line again, I came across the following, and would like your take on how it fits into your hypothesis. Cochran does not appear on the list of those arrested.
***Steve Cochran, a national bikers’ rights advocate from Waco who witnessed the melee, blamed the incident entirely on the Cossacks. Cochran, who is a founder of the Waco chapter of the Sons of the South, is an official with the U.S. Defenders Task Force, a legislative group affiliated with the Texas Confederacy of Clubs and Independents.
He arrived at Twin Peaks on Sunday to set up a sound system for the COC&I meeting, only to find that the violence already had started.
Bandidos members were to be part of the meeting, which was to focus on legislative issues common to all bikers, Cochran said. He said police gave no indication to him or other COC&I members that their lives might be in danger.
“These meetings have gone on for 20 years, and we’ve gone all these years without a single incident until Sunday,” he said.
Cochran said the Cossacks have never been part of the COC&I organization but about 60 showed up on their bikes.
“They rode en masse to that meeting for the sole purpose of creating some kind of trouble,” he said. “Their intentions were not saintly. . . . If they had not showed up there, we wouldn’t be discussing this now.”
Cochran said in the past nine months or so, Cossacks have been harassing other motorcycle clubs. *** etc. Taken from conservativetreehouse.
“The truth will come out.”
You’re an optimist.
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Travis, you quote: **On the Waco PD tactical radio channel, all of the SWAT officers outside are hearing, “Officer in peril! Officer is being assaulted! Officer in trouble! Officer has weapons pointed at him! Officer needs help!”**
I have been unable to find this anywhere. The audio I did find is at http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/05/21/listen-to-police-radio-traffic-from-waco-twin-peaks-biker-shooting/
This piece starts shortly after the shooting started. [According to the restaurant video reviewed by AP, the shooting started at 12:24.]
I would welcome anyone who could transcribe the entire thing should they so desire. I didn’t hear anything corresponding to your quote, nor anything to indicate an LE operation gone wrong.
The above audio is between the scene and the dispatcher. They are calling for back up units, anyone who can respond, telling back up not to report to Twin Peaks because it is still hot. Telling ambulance to stage because is still hot. etc.
It starts with “shots fired”
[later] subject down
[later] 2 down
guns firing from the ground
back off! get everyone out of Twin Peaks
crawling on the ground, has a gun
Scott come back with us! you are down range
[they are] on the ground, firing at us
. . .
later there is a discussion of traffic control, and report of another group of bikers 30-50 gathering at the Flying J, maybe grouping for another go-around? maybe Cossacks?
There is going to be payback if this does not resolve soon. Somebody is going to get pissed off and get tired of waiting for the Legal system to get off it’s butt. After that it is going to be open season down there on everybody.
Interesting theory. Sounds reasonable to me. We shall see.
It has been claimed that there were a number of C’s in B colors thinking they had been invited by the B gang. But with all the he said she said going around and propaganda meisters like the Gator pushing their story tirelessly wherever they can, maybe that wasn’t true.
In which case the only double cross... was the gummit.
That is a plausible hypothesis.
Your theory in post #32 sounds plausible. But if it is, then why do you conclude with “The truth will come out”?
Maybe the truth won’t come out.