Posted on 07/10/2015 1:02:09 AM PDT by dangus
My wife is in the hospital because of herbal tea. (Prayers are welcome, thank you.) I consider this news because hopefully the events of the evening will lead to a nation-wide recall, and if not, they should.
Please allow me to reiterate for everyone's health and safety: "All-natural remedies" are NOT safer than "Big Pharma" (a.k.a. medicine).
Here's what a drug is:
Someone identifies an herbal remedy. They identify the effective ingredient and purify it from any other ingredients which may cause side effects or be unhealthy or even toxic or simply reduce effectiveness. They may discover and include slight chemical changes to the ingredient which increase effectiveness or reduce side effects. They then rigorously test the substance for side effects, toxicity, addictiveness, or any other negative effects. Then they have to prove its effectiveness and safety to the government to a scientific certainty. Then they determine if it might interact with any conceivable other medications or medical conditions. Finally, by offering it as a recommended substance to patients, they assume liability for any harm it might do to a patient because they failed to test it enough.
"All natural remedies" don't have to be purified, proven safe or effective, and no-one assumes liability for anything, and no-one tests it for interactions, toxicity or the like.
Had this been a drug, there might be some six-figure settlement involved eventually. As it stands, I'm not optimistic because people who shell natural remedies... no scratch that: untested drugs in the raw... assume much less legal responsibility.
You would want a professional engineer, not some hippy day-dreamer, to design your airplane. Likewise, you should want a pharmaceutical professional, not some hippy day-dreamer to design your medicine.
It was a detox tea, supposedly simply for helping flush toxins out of your system. It said nothing about this primarily being because it’s a powerful diuretic, but the exposure to the summer heat despite such loss of body fluids probably at least exacerbated the toxic effects.
No, if it were, I would certainly name the tea, wouldn’t I?
My brother was downwind of a bunch of burning poison sumac as a youth. Damn near killed him, naturally.
What do you mean “epidemic?” The CDC is certainly warning people that it is a dangerous, common, and growing danger. I hope you find a effective treatment. The process to find a treatment and determine its efficacy and safety is certainly a long one, and obviously, if none of the treatments passed through it entirely, well, yes, then it makes sense to move on to one which hasn’t. (Several treatments HAVE been found for Lyme’s disease, but they are less effective if the disease went undiagnosed for a long time.) But please understand the warning about “natural” remedies not having to have their efficacy or safety demonstrated! Be careful! Do NOT take colloidal silver!
Most drugs are in fact not subjected to the tests we think the they are, some drugs are actually barely tested or not tested at all.
Sorry for the problems.
Three years ago after 5 years of eating fast food I had the required HA. Triple by-pass, doctorhad me on 5-6 different meds.
I read Dr. Youngs book The Ph Mircle and tried drinking wheat grass every day. In four months my bp was 115/67, hr 65. The doctor took me off ALL meds.
My vitals remain in that same area.
I was going to say...I don’t understand how ingesting a metal could be beneficial in any kind of way.
” Silver is a heavy metal - stay away. “
Silver nitrate, though, which btw contains silver, has several medically accepted uses:
https://www.google.com/search?q=silver+nitrate+medications&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Also, life as we know it couldn’t exist without several heavy metals, including cobalt, copper, zinc, chromium, selenium, and iron.
Just FYI...the whole detox fad is useless at best and often dangersous, according to most doctors. The body is well-equipped to get rid of toxins on its own via the liver and kidneys.
BTW, I sent up a prayer for your ex-wife.
Try cutting all the iron out of your diet for a while.
Wonder if it’s that Dieters Tea. I’ve heard some people got real sick and other died from taking it.
Actually, I d have colloidal silver, but it can turn you a permanent shade of gray/blue if overdosed. And it must be used with other detoxifiers.
No thanks, as a woman I need it. My body wasn’t made to ingest heavy metals.
It might not need them, but there is no escaping the fact that you live in an environment where they exist and can find their way into the food we eat. Our bodies have to be made to deal with at least as much as we'd normally encounter or we wouldn't survive.
Insect parts might find their way into my body somehow, too, but I’m not going to go out and chow down on them.
And that is and should be your choice to make.
The danger is in the unintended consequences of putting "if it isn't good for you, you shouldn't have it" into a political context.
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Aspirin and ibuprofen can send my child to the hospital. No recall on it. Just touching it can cause a reaction. I know others with the same condition. But it is relatively rare for that to happen.
One of our children has a bad reaction to drinking certain herbal teas and taking medicine at the same time. Any tea with bergamot orange in it will do this. And plain grapefruit or grapefruit juice causes the same problems. For some reason, grapefruit juice and/or bergamot orange cause your body to absorb some medicines at a rate 4 times (not sure exact number) what it would normally. This could cause a person to have a toxic dose whereas if the same med taken with water is no problem.
“Political context?” Want to show me where I did that?
Ingesting colloidal silver produces buildup in the brain, kidneys, and nervous system. The damage is irreversible and can lead to organ failure. It’s a toxic substance.
Attempting to equate it to dietary iron doesn’t work.
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