Posted on 08/29/2015 9:18:10 AM PDT by cuban leaf
Though this is a vanity, I have linked to the foundational source of my point.
I REALLY like what the Trump is saying. I like his attitude, I lake his effectively destroying PC and his takedown of the MSM. I like seeing all the liberal and GOPe heads exploding. I especially like him running a screen for Cruz.
But I would be very concerned about a Trump presidency. If you look at his stances in the past and some that are current and couple that with is personality, attitude and MO, and imagine him as the "strong man" in the article in the link, you will see where I am coming from.
I use understatement in a very real sense.
Cruz has a wimpy public side that is the reason he isn’t pulling out of the single percentage dust.
But he also has a wise selfless side that is advising Trump right NOW.
Trump, as it were, may be Cruz’s “trumpet.”
Will i can’t say i am not nervous about Trump. I am nervous about whoever the next President will be.
Again, the lesson of the “strong man” in the link in the OP is really the core point of the creation of this thread. Trump’s rise just made it more poignant to me as of late. It is a real risk in every country, and in every generation. It’s a bigger risk now because of the times in which we live, just as the Germans put their confidence in a “strong man” in the early 30’s because of the times in which they lived and their country’s needs. Eventually he grew beyond their control. And who even knows what HIS motives were at first?
We must always beware the strong man and, more importantly, CREATING one ourselves. All men are fallible. Trump may be GREAT! But we need to keep our heads. We don’t want to be like the young man that marries the really hot “bit**” because, well, she’s just so HOT and it will be great.
Except it isn’t.
Constantly electing weak sycophants isn’t really the answer....
His second term in office and we still have not seen his college records?
Those who don’t learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. BTW, Godwin himself has argued that some analogies to Germany are legit. See the following from Wikipedia:
Godwin’s law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent’s argument as hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually appropriate.[9] Similar criticisms of the “law” (or “at least the distorted version which purports to prohibit all comparisons to German crimes”) have been made by Glenn Greenwald.[10]
In 2014, Australian journalist Jenna Price[11] compared the Australian Government to the Nazi Party for its treatment of asylum seekers. Mike Godwin himself commented on Twitter that these comparisons were justified.[12]
“With Trump you get some important turn around action on executive orders and stuff done.”
I am probably going to get flamed for saying this. I am trying to say this in a general tone and not personally.
Maybe it’s just me, but I find rule by executive orders very scary.
Rule by executive orders is generally not constitutional, and is really indicative of a dictatorship and tyranny. I don’t want anyone doing it, republican or democrat. If we (constitutional conservatives) find managing this country acceptable by the use of executive orders, then we have no right to complain when Obama does it, or Hillary does it.
It ultimately is a God question.
What are the people doing with God.
On a personal level, we could (again this is understatement) do worse than America, but on a political, official level it really stinks here.
Rednecks who believe in God, to put it very broadly, may prove to be the key here. To be the energy that both gives a Trump power and keeps him honest.
This is why I say I will not vote for another lizard.
http://www.writingsonthewall.net/the-wrong-lizard
So you have to reach to Australia for your justification hmm
Is Trump a lizard. Or is he a bullfrog?
Lemme guess, you voted for those lib ninnies McCain and Romney.
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency.
"It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to an electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
"The Republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."
- Translated into English from an article appearing in the Czech Republic as published in the Prager Zeitung of 28 April 2010.
I'm not sold on either one at this point. JMHO
As far as the others in the race, maybe Walker or even Carson. Other then that, meh.
Spot on LucyT!!
I don’t see him as a lizard. It’s part of the attraction.
My argument is that he’s different enough that he may (or may not) be a copperhead. But I’m not a democrat. I’m not going to just “hope” he’s not. Too much is at stake.
True, that’s ambiguous. Trump himself has said little or nothing about that.
I’d think one good use would be a corrective use. Back out the Obama garbage that never should have been there in the first place.
Will Trump respect the constitutional lines at least better than Barack Obama has. I do believe Trump, even the Trump of today, has less of a counter-constitutional ideology to grind here than the folks who put the Obama turtle up on its post to do their bidding.
A better analogy might be Andrew Jackson. He abused the system with the Trail of Tears fiasco. But overall he was well accepted.
Reagan evolved into a conservative in the late forties and through the fifties fighting the communists in Hollywood as head of the SAG, and working for GE (then a bastion of corporate America) as a spokesman. In 1964 he delivered the televised speech which remains the best exposition of Conservative reasoning ever put on film. Then he cut his political teeth as a two term governor of the nation’s largest and most diverse State. A twenty year gap between being a Democrat and the even conceiving the idea of running for president as a Republican, and another eight years till he tried, with a solid thirty years as a Conservative Republican spokesman and then icon before winning the nomination, and some people want to compare Trump to him?
Cruz has brains; Trump, brawn.
Surely nobody has missed that the two have been intensively conferring?
I have not missed that and that is a very good sign to me! I am still watching closely.
- Translated into English from an article appearing in the Czech Republic as published in the Prager Zeitung of 28 April 2010.
I believe it is worse now.
The bible does not say merely hope. It says pray.
A common folly here is the assumption that past must dictate future. If it really always does, then we might as well hang it up, partay like there is no tomorrow because there won’t be one, we will all perish quickly.
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