Posted on 01/29/2016 12:17:36 PM PST by TBP
Thanks. I forgot that one.
An anchor baby is a baby born in the US to two illegal alien parents, so in other words.......huh?
Talk about the issues, you GD circus clown.
Ted Cruz was NOT naturalized, he was born a US citizen by law, end of story.
Not true. Birth tourism, parents here legally with the expressed purpose of having a child on US soil.
Rubio might be. Cruz is not. Cruz is a citizen, just not the natural born variety.
It will be very unfortunate if this Trump sleazebag stuff works in this primary.
In the first time in many years I find myself agreeing with Mark Levin about this.
He points out that everyone who TRump sees as a possible threat he points the finger at it to his cultists and they say:”Lets go get them. Lets put them out of business, FNC, National Review,...”
And that 90% of the country could give a crap about this petty Trump crap, meanwhile Trump keeps any real debate from being broadcast in most cases.
BTW Early estimates say the Trumpless debate had 13M viewers , MSNBC who had a few 100K viewers in the same two hours keeps reporting that that 13M was FNC being put out of business by Trump
Tourists aren’t residents and I agree their children should not be given citizenship and are anchor babies, you’re right there.
Children of LEGAL RESIDENT aliens like Rubio and Jindal are not “anchor babies” and are perfectly entitled to citizenship at birth.
Doesn’t pertain to Cruz.
As to CRUZ If you are born a citizen as he was by virtue of his mother being a US Citizen over the age of 21, the place of his birth and nationality of his father BEING COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT under the citizenship law at the time, you are NATURAL BORN. Natural born and naturalized, two categories of citizen, that is all. All these other stupid theories were made up on the Internet recently and have no basis in the text of the constitution or reality but only in a desire to disqualify someone they don’t want to win even those he oozes Americanism in contrasts to the original birther target, B Obama, to whom this garbage should have been confined.
If you don’t agree then your quarrel is with LOGIC and the dictionary.
Enough of this GD NONSENSE.
Maybe that is your end of the story. I have not said Cruz was not a citizen at birth. But he will never be a ‘natural born’ citizen... Reality can be really hard to accept for some.
Once again ‘natural born’ citizenship comes from two citizens of the US, birth of child on US soil. Canada has never been US soil, and Cruz’s father did not become a US citizen until 2005.
Cruz knows full he is not natural born. Have you heard him say it.. I am a natural born citizen. Let alone explain, how being born in Canada gives him natural born citizenship.
So much for the claim that conservatives follow the ‘original intent’ of the Constitution!
Once again, no it doesn't. It means born a citizen, that's all. The intent was to keep the Arnold Swartzeggers from being President.
Your claims at the supposed "original intent" of the Constitution are agenda driven (you want Trump), not based on reality, logic, or the Constitution.
You and Trump should focus on the issues of the campaign not shameful horsefeces attacks meant to trick the ignorant.
As I say, Rubio might be. I don’t know the particulars related to his parents. They weren’t citizens until 4 years after his birth. There were policy’s in place for expedited status for Cubans. I haven’t seen anything indicating they availed themselves to the program, or if they even had intentions of staying. Not sure about his father, his mother returned to Cuba often.
Take Trump off the ballot.... since you have deceived yourself that is my agenda.
In what is now called middle school, it was required to take a test on the US Constitution. In preparation of taking that test, requirements to hold the office of president were discussed. I was born in Germany, to two citizen parents.. my father first served in the Korean War and then was stationed in Germany. Germany was never considered US soil. I learned that I was NOT natural born. Only my parents could pass that standing on to me. This was before Cruz was ever birthed in Canada.
Cruz was touted as following 'original intent' of the Constitution.. It was Cruz NOT Trump that claimed that Rubio, Jindal, I think he even threw Santorum in the mix as having eligibility questions when asked by the debate moderator. Trump kindly recommended he get it cleared up, did not want to take a risk, since liberals were already planning to file suit.
Then the smartest guy in America snarled that even Trump's eligibility could be questioned because of Trump's mother. Those words were a flat out lie, and it was then and there I knew Cruz knew that he is NOT eligible.
Presently, I have NO clue who will be on the Missouri ballot, so I do not know who I will vote for or against.
Sounds like you received your holy voter guide and Trump is not holy enough..
So you say. But he is on the ballot, isn't he? And you are for him as far as I can tell, and I can't take him off (or I would and then 90% of the site would be for Cruz over the rest of the pack and birthers would get zotted). So I'm afraid I can't give you the benefit of the doubt.
It's certainly HIS agenda, he clearly doesn't give a rat's behind about the constitution, he cares about using any means necessary to beat Cruz. In the same breath he (until recently) suggested Cruz should be his VP, an office with same requirements as President. Slimey, four-flushing, and disgusting.
I don't know what you "learned in school" from your presumably long dead middle school teachers. I "learned" from my teacher that if you were cut in outer space your blood would be blue, needless to say that isn't true as unoxygenated human blood is not blue, ignorant people only assume it is cause the veins appear blue. I also learned that Columbus had a tough time finding sponsors for his voyage cause (educated) people still thought the Earth was flat, a falsehood.
Cruz was born in 1970, under the law at the time he was a citizen at birth though his mother who met all the necessary qualifications, he was not and did not need to be naturalized and therefore was a NATURAL BORN citizen.
About Cruz's comments re Trump's mother, on this very website I've read birther theories that to be "natural born" both parents need to be natural born too, you see the stupid theories about the "real meaning" of "natural born" are MADE UP and thus NOT CONSISTENT. Under that extreme stupid birther theory, Trump would be out. Cruz only mentioned it because Trump started in with the stupid birther nonsense and he was perfectly justified in doing so. It illustrates how stupid this nonsense is.
As for my feelings about Trump, which I can tell you are not informed by religion since I'm not very religious, it's no secret, I'm against him. He's about my 9th choice for the nomination. I don't believe that he would govern as a conservative, or that he is a strong GE candidate. His ridiculous campaigning, especially this birther bilge (and also his repeating of debunked democrat lies about Scott Walker) has only decreased my already low opinion of him. I believe he will literally say anything to win, I expect a lot of left of center noises aimed at union voters if he wins the nomination.
Presently only state candidates are listed on the ballot.... NO presidential candidates are listed. So again I have NO clue who will end up on the ballot. I do not need you to give me anything. I am NOT the one seeking entitlements!!!!!!
It's certainly HIS agenda, he clearly doesn't give a rat's behind about the constitution, he cares about using any means necessary to beat Cruz. In the same breath he (until recently) suggested Cruz should be his VP, an office with same requirements as President. Slimey, four-flushing, and disgusting.
Well, now it is Trumps agenda after the smartest guy in America lied. Maybe you are a different type, but usually trashing a man's mother generally is expected to draw a response.... Too bad the smartest guy in America did NOT think out that far ahead. Trump did NOT start the eligibility questions.... Washington Post asked.. A lib in Florida was threatening suit... Obviously Trump started investigating... I read a comment put out by Larry Tribe, the liberals go to Constitutional lawyer... And while Tribe personally and professionally does not adhere to the 'original intent', he call Cruz a hypocrite for now attempting to exempt himself from 'original intent'. Push comes to shove in a legal fight whose side do you think Tribe is going to take... Why he will come out for 'original intent', just because the smartest guy in American gained his claim to fame for following the 'original intent' of the Constitution, and now seeks to get himself exempted.
I don't know what you "learned in school" from your presumably long dead middle school teachers. I "learned" from my teacher that if you were cut in outer space your blood would be blue, needless to say that isn't true as unoxygenated human blood is not blue, ignorant people only assume it is cause the veins appear blue. I also learned that Columbus had a tough time finding sponsors for his voyage cause (educated) people still thought the Earth was flat, a falsehood.
I can guess you went to a church school where 'original intent' was NOT their priority.
Cruz was born in 1970, under the law at the time he was a citizen at birth though his mother who met all the necessary qualifications, he was not and did not need to be naturalized and therefore was a NATURAL BORN citizen.
And my Constitution still reads the requirement to hold the office of president one must be natural born. There is NO revise and extend, or reference to any Congressional ACT, or court citation changing the meaning of 'original intent'. Nobody has messed with changing that requirement yet. Cruz is trying to get himself exempted as well as Rubio, an anchor baby.
About Cruz's comments re Trump's mother, on this very website I've read birther theories that to be "natural born" both parents need to be natural born too, you see the stupid theories about the "real meaning" of "natural born" are MADE UP and thus NOT CONSISTENT. Under that extreme stupid birther theory, Trump would be out. Cruz only mentioned it because Trump started in with the stupid birther nonsense and he was perfectly justified in doing so. It illustrates how stupid this nonsense is.
Trump's mother was a US citizen before Trump was born.
As for my feelings about Trump, which I can tell you are not informed by religion since I'm not very religious, it's no secret, I'm against him. He's about my 9th choice for the nomination. I don't believe that he would govern as a conservative, or that he is a strong GE candidate. His ridiculous campaigning, especially this birther bilge (and also his repeating of debunked democrat lies about Scott Walker) has only decreased my already low opinion of him. I believe he will literally say anything to win, I expect a lot of left of center noises aimed at union voters if he wins the nomination.
Scot Walker was my first choice. I have relatives that live in WI and I have heard for years what the libs tried to do to him and did successfully cause a living hell for people using their John Doe law. But Walker was low on cash and dropped out. Now recently I came across this http://laurenstephens.com and became disgusted with them all.
Not that if think I have to justify what I know, do NOT be surprised when the liberals get 'original intent' religion, should Cruz win the nomination.
Sen Cruz has stated he’s never had a Canadian passport. So he meets all the requirements to be eligible for US presidency.
Next liberal arguement
How did Ted Cruz obtain a US passport if he doesn’t have to prove he’s a US citizen?
Sen Cruz has stated he’s only had a US passport and so meets the requirements to run for US president.
Next liberal arguement
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