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The voter rebellion is on! Who should lead: Cruz or Trump? Both?
February 3, 2016 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 02/03/2016 1:57:45 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Q: Why are the voters rebelling?

A: The leftist progressives have been treading on our constitution and our liberty for at least the last 100 years and consequently we've suffered a long train of abuses and usurpations: The income tax (16th amendment), ending state sovereignty/concentrating power at the federal level (the 17th amendment), the Fed, heavy-handed/unconstitutional regulations, socialized retirement, socialized health care, restrictions on religious liberty, legalized abortion, federal mandated homosexual marriage with the heavy hand of the federal government enforcing it over the objections of the states and small business operators, the illegal alien invasion, the subversive Muslim invasion, the last 8 years of lawlessness under a Marxist/Islamofascist usurper, and a totally ineffective Republican opposition party that caves in or actually goes along with much of the above.

The tea party rebellion rose up several years ago to try to fight off the most recent Marxist assaults on our liberty and was quite effective at electing Republican majorities in the House and the Senate and in the majority of the states, but all to no avail.

The professional political elites entrenched within the Republican establishment co-opted our newly elected tea party representatives and or otherwise blunted their efforts and continued allowing the Marxist democrats to have their way over us. Even a rebellion against the Speaker of the House did no good. The new Speaker is as weak as the old Speaker.

And so the situation is ripe for rebellion. And we had a great Christian constitutional conservative tea party leader poised to lead it, Ted Cruz. And we were happy to jump on this young lion's bandwagon and push him through to triumph over the Marxist Democrats.

But the entrenched GOP establishment would have none of it and they (the GOPe and related Super PACS and their allies at FOX News and the cheap labor/open borders lobby) lined up behind the malleable open-borders Jeb Bush whom they could control and amassed a vast 100 million dollar plus warchest with promises of millions more to come. With the help of the "free" press, their anointed one was all but nominated. No way would a first term upstart and senate outcast like Ted Cruz overtake their anointed prince.

But then jumped in an older, long-maned alpha lion who's been around the block a couple times, roaring his way to the top of the hill. Trump's hard-nosed, no-nonsense, non-politically-correct, take no prisoners approach quickly grabbed the attention of the masses of fed-up voters. Trump single handedly slew the establishment's Prince Jeb, the media and the establishment itself and completely rewrote the rules of engagement.

His bold pronouncements that he would build a wall, enforce the law and deport them all was the exact right message at the exact right time and immediately vaulted him to front-runner status. And he added to that that he would end sanctuary cities, end anchor babies and even slap a moratorium on Muslim immigration. Again, exactly what the masses wanted to hear.

Now, many of us feel that these twin invasions (illegal aliens and Muslim infiltrators) were and are existential threats to our national sovereignty and were thrilled to have a mighty warrior like Trump who takes no guff from the media or the establishment to lead the charge.

The media, the establishment and even many so-called conservatives immediately objected with "you can't do that." It's unconstitutional and un-American. It's not who we are as Republicans.

That last one was especially telling. "It's not who we are as Republicans."

Ain't that the truth. And that's our entire problem in a nutshell.

Trump's huge rallies attracted thousands and thousands and his polling numbers soared for months. He was leading in most of the national polls and in most states.

But there was a growing counter-insurgency rumbling beneath the rebellion. Trump's history is strewn with contradictory and potentially fatal landmines. Too many of his past pronouncements and activities were on the NY liberal side and some are too much for Christian constitutional conservatives to bear or forgive. He swears that he's now a pro-life, pro-family Christian, but he has also stated that he's never asked for forgiveness. That's mighty hard for Christians to accept, but who are we to judge what's in a man's heart.

So here we are. The rebellion is roaring. The people are massing. Torches and pitchforks at the ready, but we are divided on who should lead it. And not just divided, we're scratching each others eyes out fighting about it. And as we do, the establishment's second choice (Gang of Eight traitor Rubio) is making inroads.

Personally, I'm all in for the Rebellion no matter who leads it. And I've often stated that Cruz is my favorite because of his constitutional conservative stance, but if Trump wins the nomination I'll enthusiastically support him in the general. Why? Because we cannot possibly allow yet another American-hating communist to follow Obama into the White House to complete the job of totally destroying our free Republic. End of that story. It's a no-brainer and my picture is in the dictionary under that term.

I absolutely love Trump's bold stand against illegal aliens and his call for a moratorium on Muslim immigration and believe it's even stronger than Cruz's past positions. I also love Trump's Reagan-like tax plan. Cruz's flat tax proposal is also interesting. I believe they both want to cut regulations, cut spending, cut government, return education to the states, etc, build a powerful military and fight against terrorism and make America great again.

Cruz is stronger on life and marriage and probably on choosing judges, but Trump says he's a pro-life, pro-family Christian but that's always a gamble anyway. Even Reagan and GWB blew a few judicial nominations.

The important thing here (IMHO) is that we save our nation. I'm not ready to rule out either of these candidates. Cruz is off to a great start and is up by one delegate over Trump and together they're double the GOPe's second choice. But it's a long hard grind ahead.

I say we should let the candidates fight it out and not be so eager to trash either one of our leading candidates. Digging up and publishing dirt and rumors on either is not doing our side any good and is potentially destructive in the long run.

And trashing our fellow FReepers is something that should never be done. This is going to be a long fight and we do not want to lose too many of our friends.

Meanwhile, let the rebellion gain strength. We're all in it together to save our nation. Please save your ammunition and your venom for the true enemy on the left.

Oh, I almost forgot. If you haven't already done so, please get your donation in. We're gonna need it to survive this fight.


TOPICS: Breaking News; FReeper Editorial; Free Republic; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; cruz; elections; freepathon; jimrob; neither; rebellion; trump; uniparty; voter; voterrebellion
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To: Albion Wilde

Thanks, Albion Wilde!


241 posted on 02/04/2016 6:12:53 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks for this place to try to maintain a stable mental outlook. I keep remembering my high school Civics class on presidential eligibility. When taught outside a politically charged environment, it seemed so clear cut....


242 posted on 02/04/2016 6:13:18 AM PST by jennings2004 ("What difference, at this point, does it make!"!)
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To: RummyChick

As a side note, it looks like the family of Cruz Campaign Chair got struck by the Black Lives Matter Movement

She of the Halloween Costume email fame. sister to Chad Sweet’s wife.

http://tsl.news/news/5265/


243 posted on 02/04/2016 6:14:07 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

244 posted on 02/04/2016 6:19:19 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: JediJones
How is it someone can claim to be lifetime conservative but always working for the govt?

One big problem with the government is that liberals keep going into it and running things. We need conservatives to seek elected office and be in the government to change it from the inside.

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I didn't say conservatives should not run for office - I just don't think small govt conservatives should be in govt all their lives. Let it be business men or private enterprise people who enter politics for a time and then leave office.

245 posted on 02/04/2016 6:22:47 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: onyx

Another site whose only reason for being is to allow its members to speak poorly about Free Republic. How noble.


246 posted on 02/04/2016 6:23:19 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: musicman

LOL!


247 posted on 02/04/2016 6:23:39 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

It’s just unbelievable.


248 posted on 02/04/2016 6:24:21 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: onyx; Jim Robinson; RedMDer; trisham; deoetdoctrinae
Primary season is never fun here and this one is especially bad.

The good news is that it WILL be over in a few weeks, we will almost certainly have a nominee by Super Tuesday.

I think a lot of us are prone to forget that FR doesn't get to pick the nominee, as evidenced by McCain and Romney.

249 posted on 02/04/2016 6:27:24 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: DoughtyOne

It just makes no sense whatsoever.


250 posted on 02/04/2016 6:32:14 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: Albion Wilde; Family Guy
I think we can separate men in women in uniform who work for the govt by putting their lives at stake from govt employees like lobbyists.

Cruz literally has done nothing but work for the govt or on govt related issues in private employee since he graduated law school as far as I can tell. That's fine but you don't get claim the limited govt mantle being a lifetime govt employee - govt jobs for me but not for thee.

251 posted on 02/04/2016 6:33:00 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: trisham

252 posted on 02/04/2016 6:40:48 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Albion Wilde
It's nice to have two frontrunners with some backbone. I may criticize Cruz (and Trump) but I'll be happy to vote for either or both in the general.

The GOPe and Democrats are the real enemy.

253 posted on 02/04/2016 6:45:25 AM PST by MaxFlint
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To: Jim Robinson

I’d vote for Cruz in the general election, but have no illusions about him being an outsider. He may not be the insider like most, but he’s more inside than out.


254 posted on 02/04/2016 6:45:36 AM PST by Ted Grant
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To: HandyDandy

I hope this is seen all so we can all (myself included) quit blasting each other. I have blasted Cruz supporters and it’s been vice versa. It is time for me and all to stop. Let’s blast those SOB’s who pleaded for our votes, our support to include our money, and; in return, they promised they would stand up to Obama and more. They have lied to us to many times. “THEY LIED TO US AGAIN THIS PAST ELECTION AFTER PROMISING THEY’D CHANGE THINGS WITH CONTROL OF THE SENATE. More lies. I have had it. I refused to give to the RNC this year to include my membership dues for the year.


255 posted on 02/04/2016 7:11:28 AM PST by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: thackney

Excellent tone, Jim.


256 posted on 02/04/2016 7:14:05 AM PST by steve8714 (Evidently Breitbart.com has changed their name to "not responding".)
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To: kinsman redeemer

May Cruz set "his face like flint" like his Lord.

257 posted on 02/04/2016 7:15:50 AM PST by Theophilus (The GOPe are dealers. The Marxist Democrats are duelists.)
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To: drewh
Yes that is how I see it too. Cruz gets enough votes to prevent Trump from winning which allows Rubio to squeak thur for the win. Just like 2012 when Santorium stopped Newt giving Romney the win.

Rubio as POTUS means amnesty and amnesty means the end of our republic. I'll blame Cruz for president Rubio, since Cruz is running on issues Trump put on the table.

258 posted on 02/04/2016 7:23:00 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: MaxFlint

It’s not nice to have the two “outsiders” tarring one another up. The only one benefiting is Rubio. And there is really only one outsider candidate.


259 posted on 02/04/2016 7:26:48 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: MNJohnnie
Argh, sorry, I misunderstood.

Send the idea to someone good and collect royalties!!!

260 posted on 02/04/2016 7:42:58 AM PST by Lakeshark
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